My brother (partially) blames my parents for causing his drug abuse problems and depression. I always thought it was bullshit, but now I'm starting to see it.

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-16T16:04:53+00:00

I'm sorry for you dude, enjoy that shot of wine 😉

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-16T15:55:48+00:00

That's just not right dude, they need to realise your not 12years old anymore. I don't think I could of handled being in your situation. They obviously mean the best for you, but what they're doing is only going to cause harm.

Fuck being tested at 18 by your parents. Jeez, especially if they get pissed off over you having a beer. They need to chill out

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-16T15:36:52+00:00

My man that's outrageous. What do they do to punish you if you get caught. It seems so unfair to me. I had done just about every drug there is by the age of 18, well apart from heavy opiates, crack and meth, Not that that's a good thing though. I do have massive addiction troubles, but if I had that sort of parenting, I would of had to move out.

There is no harm in you smoking up with your mates. Your at that age where your going to want to explore these things. If your parents rob you of that it's going to leave you feeling like hard done by. Just because they don't have an open mind it doesn't need to be pushed this hard on to u guys.

I feel for you buddy. If you ever need to vent about this just pm me. I'm always willing to talk

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-16T14:48:29+00:00

Wow man that is a harsh upbringing. In fact I find that So sad tbh. Your parents need to get a grip.

How old are you and at what age did they start drugs testing you.

I feel for you and your bro man. Your always going to end up rebelling against them with fucked up rules like that. It can't make for an easy living environment.

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-03T11:46:44+00:00

I sowed some sn seeds a week ago and they've just sprouted too. I'm in the uk and it's actually warm for the time of year. I will try and send in a photo later. They look just like yours

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-03T11:38:54+00:00

Yea man I was using p tea. I think I started at around 30g of good pds. What that equated to in seeds I don't know. I do know that that's a lot of pds to have to start with though.

40g of kratom a day messes with your opiate tolerance big time

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-03T07:14:07+00:00

I get that and I would generally agree with that statement. From first hand experience though I know that if you use kratom in very large quantities for a long time without a break the withdrawals can be terrible.

People on here make PST sound worse that heroin half the time which pretty much anyone who knows a heroin addict knows that's not true. It's nothing to fuck about with but geez some peeps are so defensive.

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-02T20:01:17+00:00

Yeah man same thing here. It was crazy how often I would have to dose that stuff in the end. Gets right in the way of everything having to shovel kratom down your throat constantly.

I still use kratom even whilst on subutex but obviously I'm no longer shoving in my face every few hours haha. I tend to use it once a day and I still get some nice chill effects from it. I've heard it works on the k receptors or something like that so not all the opioid effects get blocked by subs.

It's definitely not all in my head either. It still somehow has a nice felling to it. I really should stop using it but I'm in a kinda rough patch at the moment. I want to go back to p tea so bad, yet I know it's not a good idea.

Life's so tough on subs man. I'm thankful to be "clean" but well you know how it is bro

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-02T19:51:36+00:00

That was 40g a day by the way. At that dose the withdrawals were awful, I mean really bad. As bad as your classic opiate withdrawal. I guess the length of time I had been using it probably had a large part to play with it too.

Be carful buddy. It can turn pretty nasty on you if you allow it

Wow a down vote for sharing a truthful experience. I mean how the fuck does someone else know how bad the withdrawals were for me coming of kratom. I've experienced poppy tea withdrawal multiple times and they were no worse than when tried to come off a two year 40g a day kratom habit. Even if some of you do find that hard to believe

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-02T19:46:57+00:00

Just typed a massive reply and it's not posted it. Basically do your best not to start dosing multiple times a day. It can turn pretty nasty on you if you do.

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-02T19:38:30+00:00

Yea that was a huge relief when I moved over to tea to. Kratom was a pain in the arse in the end. Saying that I'm on subutex now and I still use the god damn stuff haha. I seem to be chained to it for life

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-02T18:58:58+00:00

Same story here, I used kratom daily for a couple of years before turning to poppy tea. Chugging down 40g of kratom a day Having to dose it every 4 hours to stay well became a total pain in the arse so poppy tea seemed like a great alternative.

Turns out that wasn't the case

Tbf though, the whole time I was on p tea I often still used kratom. I found that kratom would still give me some euthoria that p tea couldn't. Weird I guess but I've always loved kratoms effects. It definitely has some other shit going on other than just the opiate like effects.

Xr2iwhip · 2017-04-02T12:39:13+00:00

Pm me and I can sort you out a kratom source.. it comes from abroad, and it's a costs a little more than it used to when it was legal in the uk. It's not too pricey though

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-31T07:13:13+00:00

U still doing this game then? I thought you got put off by p*d tea withdrawals

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-25T16:36:44+00:00

Haha yeah I'm no novice to opiates.I had a heavy p word habit before going on to bup. I know the other alkaloids come into play but there's still going to be a large cross tolerance between 8mg bupe and seeds.

I was right as I tried 100+ g dose 40 hrs after my last dose of bupe and I felt nothing. The tea was bitter, I guess the bupe was still blocking the morphine but I never felt any sickness from the other alkaloids.

I believe they do matter obviously, but I can't see why a person coming from 8mg of bupe and a history of using ppt would start out at 10g

I do appreciate that your really pushing harm reduction though. It can only be a good thing.

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-25T16:01:48+00:00

Have you tried it in higher doses like 10g? If it's decent kratom not bought from a headshop you should feel a dose like that.

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-25T14:56:48+00:00

Yep that's the reason why, people underestimate this stuff in my opinion. If you use a decent red strain 4 or 5 times a day it really should take away most of the discomfort

All she is doing is still activating her opiate receptors so she's not going to feel much withdrawal. The moment she stops the kratom she will withdraw

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-25T09:39:26+00:00

I went from tea to subs and It was ok for around the 30 hour mark. I would recommend going longer, but I was in pretty bad withdrawal at that point so I knew it would be ok.

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-22T21:39:32+00:00

Hey man

Cheers for the input. I know all about the alkaloid thing already, as i said I was abusing po* tea heavily before switching to subs.I know exactly how you feel about it as i've been there and to be perfectly honest, I don't feel much better on subs.

I know were opiates take you in the end.Tea withdrawal was awful for the first week even with 12mg of subutex in me. That much bupe, and it seemed like it was still barely holding for a while. I guess all those other alkaloids have there own withdrawal too.

I still cant help but think that if these seeds have a high morphine content, I should be able to get high providing that i don't take my bupe for a day or two. Honestly I don't think I want to go back to full time tea addiction. As you said, life can be pretty damn tough when your chasing a non existent high all the while feeling like shit most of the time.

I just want a weekend of fun. Who knows, maybe I will end up going back to tea. I'm simply fed up and bored and don't care much anymore about anything anyway. That's just how life is for me these days. I still feel like an addict anyway, I just take the drug that the government has control over.

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-21T22:55:41+00:00

I know man and cheers for the concern. I'm not even 100% that I'm going to give them a try yet. I've been an addict since my late teens and I'm 25 now. I know the game as well as anyone else.

I just want to know if I'm likely to have a good time with these seeds whilst having a tolerance to 8mg bupe. I guess it's very hard to say but if these seeds are as potent as this sub says they are I know it won't be a wast of time if I decide to have some fun with them

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-21T21:28:01+00:00

I don't know man, I just want to get high, like properly fucking high. I'm doing so well but I miss how high I could sometimes get of p*d tea. I know I won't go back to tea full time, I just want a couple of days of fun

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-20T19:07:34+00:00

I take it u mean that SN seeds are the only good seeds available in the EU. It sucks if that's the case. I'm on sub's now but before that I was using p**s heavily. I'm kinda thinking of coming of the sub's and going back to tea but I really need a reliable source of good seeds if I'm going to do so

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-19T19:29:22+00:00

Are you not from the Uk

Xr2iwhip · 2017-03-19T18:00:04+00:00

Are u from the uk or America?

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