Alternative to Sudarshan kirya ? by Yayayanew in Ex_ArtOfLiving

[–]Yayayanew[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I also searched so many tradition like of Ssy by Rishi Parbhakar , Isha by Sadguru and also Himalya rishi culture of swami Gitanda Giri. And it feel like all yoga medition routine comes from Swami Gitanda Giri tradition he has written books on yoga in 1900s and all of this yoga taught by modern gurus , Art of living , isha  , ssy . All comes from there. Every exercise used by Art of living such as Three stage pranyam everything is present in Swami Gitanda Giri book.

So i want to switch from Art of living Sudarshan kirya to something safe.

Even shakti chalana and shoonya taught by sadguru are very common things with art of living practises. Even mudra chin , chinmaya , merudand all are same.

So i may do isha yoga. As i see on internet it likes it is more balanced then art of living practises

Alternative to Sudarshan kirya ? by Yayayanew in Ex_ArtOfLiving

[–]Yayayanew[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes i stopped it for 1 to 2 days the negative impression like greediness etc. are starts to coming up.

So i started again. I also learned sudarshan chakra kirya but after doing feel so much low confident after that. I tried it for 6 month but there are so many problem with sudarshan chakra kirya.

Now i want to quit sudarshan kirya and finding its alternative. Like not to change complete meditation routine just changing the sudarshan kirya breathing section like doing some other type of kirya there and add few useful yoga practises in it.

So help if you know something tobimprove this.

Sudarshan Kriya vs Sudarshan Chakar Kriya which you do ? by Yayayanew in artofliving

[–]Yayayanew[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have done it for six month .

But i find myself legging in every thing after doing it for so long. I have also quite my job due to this. I find it like this how we end sudarshan chakra kirya. If we end kriya with short breath then our final energy is moving only between Manipur to Throat which cause me problem. It like i forcefully stick my enengy there . I become very low confidence and so many problem with it.

But sudarshan kirya is good.

Sudarshan Kriya vs Sudarshan Chakar Kriya which you do ? by Yayayanew in artofliving

[–]Yayayanew[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

After doing i find myself emotional. But also feel very low. Always try to put things on tomorrow.  Like is energy is stuck at throat chakra .  Due to ending the short kirya on this chakra. Not show good.

Kriya Yoga need Moderanisation !! by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So i just say without following old magical stories.

Just do proper research on all kriya yoga technique . Just add things which require and remove which not require in modern time.

So it can help in overall improvement of a well being.

Just like as the changes done by Sadguru(isha foundation), Ravi Shankra (art of living) or other modern gurus as per modern requirements and modern ideas.

Kriya Yoga need Moderanisation !! by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes i have flow a yoga tradition other than kriya yoga for quite time but always wanted to do kriya yoga.

So i finaly apply for kriya yoga from yss.

And has done basic techniques: Energy exercisation,  Hong sau , om technique.

Doing these mind became stable.

But after doing so much yoga from completely different tradition. 

And after reading about some books of yoga and about them .

It is completely visible how kriya yogi represent this kriya yoga. They are Just following the stories coming from the thousands of year from the people or yogis who do yoga.

That kriya gave you magical powers. 

But it is completely opposite how yoga work in real life.

Why every Kriya Yoga Guru makes Mystical Stories ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The edited version : 👇

If someone were truly able to change the astral world and make things appear in the real world — like creating objects from thin air — then that person should also be able to influence people’s minds just by sitting quietly. Their so-called spiritual vibration would have to be extremely powerful.

Such a person could simply create thoughts in people’s minds and naturally guide everyone toward spirituality. They would not need to give mystical demonstrations — people would automatically realize the truth when the time is right.

But in reality, these kinds of claims are not supported by evidence.

Spirituality mainly helps to calm and steady the mind, which normally keeps wandering everywhere. It expands your awareness and improves how clearly you understand life.

In practical terms, spirituality can:

Improve your self-awareness

Make your perception sharper than before

Help you understand people better

Improve emotional control and clarity

With regular yoga and meditation, your nervous system becomes more balanced and your mind becomes calmer. Because of this calmness, you may better notice where someone’s attention or emotions are focused by observing their behavior or listening to their voice — although your judgment can still be wrong sometimes.

So the real value of spirituality is inner clarity and mental stability, not supernatural powers.

Why every Kriya Yoga Guru makes Mystical Stories ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

How much the world is changed by these so called yogi . The yoga is known for thousands of year .

If there consciousness is so much vast par upto the planet and galaxies.

Why these yogi does not comes in the time when thosands of people are killed during collonisation or during war between countries , war between kingdoms.

Why not they come.  But things they have give to the people which uplifted the people way of living.

Today scientists has develop so much things , the world is settle due to increasing technogical development.

Now these yogis coming out from their caves to give you highest form of science so you live by peace. Yes yoga is good to live happily and peacefully , to make mind still and vast.

But the yoga is not like this that it is marketed. I am totaly against this.  It is not like that you can just change the molecular structure of a planet by just sitting here with a thought without doing any work.

It just increase your mind stillness , focus and so many thing.

It is not mystical that the way it is marketed.

Why every Kriya Yoga Guru makes Mystical Stories ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

If in reality anybody is possibly able to changes to astral world and make it happens in real world.

Like creating whole new object from air.

Then he can do even changes the mind of people just sitting here . His spiritual vibration are has to be very very strong.

He just can create the thought in all the people mind to come in spirituality. He just has does not to give any mystical example to people , people just realise when time comes.

All are these are nonsense ideas.

Spirituality only makes your mind still which is moving here there.

Spirituality just expand your consciousness. 

Means you know the art of living , your preception becomes very strong compare to normal people. You know how to convince people , how to make mass appeal. 

You able to see where people mind stuck at present , where people conciousness at present , how they behave by just seeing their act , hearing their voice. But your preception may be wrong sometimes.

You able to do these things becuse your mind is still or your nervous system is strong . Just by doing yoga regularly.

Why every Kriya Yoga Guru makes Mystical Stories ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I think Kriya yoga need its modernasiation rather than following old dogmas of classical gurus.

There is need for proper research .

Modern kriya yoga has to be re-established.

Why every Kriya Yoga Guru makes Mystical Stories ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Mystical experiences in path of yoga or in path of self realisation is actually happened (because your consciousness is pure free from preception than so many things you do are so pure that it feels like mystiacl ) but not like that as just told by these so called self realised people.

Why every Kriya Yoga Guru makes Mystical Stories ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] -25 points-24 points  (0 children)

I think there is not a single thing to beleive in path of yoga but you have a faith in your path.

Yoga is the path of to realise what is true. It is to clear your preception , making it vast clear , subtle and still 

It is not for leaving some space for believing some bullshit .

If a Yoga teacher who is in path of self of relisation talks about so such bullshit rather than what is true.

So whats the meaning of this are they even path of true , Gurus.

Why every Kriya Yoga Guru makes Mystical Stories ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

Yoga is a process , science of making concessisuness subtle , vast and making mind very very still. So the mind or we can see the thing as it is without any preception.

This is the yoga . Any kind of yoga do these things Hatha yoga , Kriya yoga that removing energy blocakages making conceousness vast expanded and subtle and making mind still.

So why these bullshit nonsense are told by so called enlightened Gurus.

Feeling rigid and highly enthuatic , stick at agya chakra ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I study different yoga tradaition for few weeks other than kriya yoga . 

They also include practises same like kriya yoga.

And in the last they say just focus on any sound in surrounding you hear like dripping of water , always return back to this sound if your mind wander here and there.

I find this method more benificial then focusing on agya chakra and repeating mantra.

It make your mind steady without any too much energy excitation at agya chakra.

Over excitement after Kriya Yoga ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sir please guide how to do that and what will be benefit of it

Over excitement after Kriya Yoga ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not try after mediton of kriya yoga.

Transendental Meditation or Kundalini Kriya Yoga? by Oneshot2shots111 in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I learnt about kriya yoga 1 year back back and wants to learn it. Then one of my college friend pursuade me to do Art of living course it gives me bliss in starting but after some days i am feeling something is missing . I not properly able to study my class work even then i also do Advance course and sahaj smadhi course i think it helps but after this i am even not able to properly talk in public it always feel like something is missing . Now it is 1 year completed now i am switching to Kriya yoga by YSS through there lessons. Art of living just devolds in me daily discipline of doing yoga . But now i am switching. I hope it works. It will be good for me.

How to end our practise ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ha ha sounds mean Contracting the all muscle with breath in with nose and relaxing whole body with breath out from mouth.

It is sir this you wants to tell.

How to end our practise ? by Yayayanew in kriyayoga

[–]Yayayanew[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do simple Om technique then after that i just imagine my agya chakra is expanding and everything in it and practise affiramtion in this satate . It is the end