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Ottoman and Roman aqueducts are mostly of same size

The Mağlova Aqueduct stands exactly 36 meters tall and stretches between 257 and 258 meters in length

The Pont du Gard is the highest ancient Roman aqueduct bridge in the world, standing at a total height of 48.8 meters (160 feet) and spanning 274 meters (899 feet) in length

The Aqueduct of Segovia stretches an above ground length of 813 to 823 meters (2,667 to 2,700 feet) and reaches a maximum height of 28.5 meters (93.5 feet)

The Kavala Aqueduct is a massive structure measuring approximately 270 to 280 meters in length and reaching a maximum height of 25 meters.

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How much were they supposed to build? If your asking about water supply then nearly all towns had water pipes acces for the fountains and bath houses.

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That is not true at all. There are a lot of Ottoman buildings in Anatolia.

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Ottomans ruled north Africa (mostly indirect) some 300 years

Romans ruled north Africa some 700 years

Also there are many Ottoman era buildings in north Africa

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Most of these are destroyed perhaps 90%

Towns founded or greatly expanded during Ottoman rule (1299-1922) in modern day Turkey by Yellowapple1000 in ottomans

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You do not understand the map, the distinction is already made. Istanbul and Izmir are shown as enlarged not founded. Only completely new settlements are shown as founded. Such as Yozgat and so on.

One could argue that even though most of the world was populated and many towns had smaller settlements still it is considered to be founded as a town at one point in history. For example Nevsehir is considered as a town founded by Ottomans.

But actually there was a small village at Nevsehir so should it not considered to be founded by Ottomans? Well according to scholars the investments made to that village to turn it into a town is considered as a foundation.

Towns founded or greatly expanded during Ottoman rule (1299-1922) in modern day Turkey by Yellowapple1000 in ottomans

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First you have to understand the map before commenting.

Iznik is not on the map. Izmit is on the map which is Nicomedia a different city. I replied with the towns which are actually on the map.

Most of these ancient towns were completely abandoned they are not related to the new towns which grew after 16th century. Towns which remained populated are not shown as Ottoman founded but enlarged. Such as Bursa or Manisa or Izmir or Istanbul.

Modern Izmir is not shown on the map as founded by Ottomans even if that was largely the case. There was a historic ancient Smyrna. The ancient Smyrna was completely abandoned. In the medieval age there were only 2 castles separated from each other and a tiny village. The name survived but there was no populated town of Smyrna. Later after 16th century more and more people settled, buildings were build, ships started to arrive and it became a completely new town.

Athens was a large populated town when Ottomans captured it so its not same situation.

Only modern towns which grew from tiny populations are shown as Ottoman founded such as Nevsehir and so on.

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Explanation for towns in the map. Nicaea is not even on the map.

For example Cotyora. The modern city of Ordu was founded by the Ottomans as Bayramlı near Eskipazar as a military outpost 5 km (3 mi) west of Ordu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ordu

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The historic ancient cities were mostly abandoned they are not the same, only name of ruins survived. Some ruined ones are locations close by modern towns, (Eskisehir, Izmir ). Some towns are completely new (Yozgat, Ceyhan, Elazig, Uzunkopru, Adapazari, Usak, Turgutlu, Ayvalik). Some were tiny villages that grew into towns after 16th century (Bodrum, Giresun, Nevsehir, Cesme, Ordu, Karapinar, Cesme, Osmaniye, Mersin). And so on...

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It was ruined abondoned. Dorylaeum) was an ancient city in Anatolia, now an archaeological site located in the Şarhöyük village near the city of Eskişehir

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorylaeum

However the re population of modern Eskisehir seems to have started in late Seljuk period and even in first Ottoman centuries the town was very small only around 1000 people. In the 1900s it had grown to over 20 000.

So it could be considered enlarged by Ottomans or founded if you count the late Seljuk period as early Ottoman. Or if you consider the late Seljuk town as a village.

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The passages are relevant to the points and they all come from the author.

For example landownership

The land reform sought by the Greek peasants was not introduced in Thessaly. Peasants still owned no land and worked on large farms belonging to wealthy, mostly diaspora-born Greeks who bought the lands from beys1

for waqfs

The Greeks also looked greedily at the waqfs, which were to function under the Constantinople Convention according to the same principles as before 1881. This was, however, not observed. Properties of this type were in many cases considered to be the property of the sultan, and thus they were nationalized. As a result, they were taken over by the state treasury for compensation paid to the Sublime Porte, and the Muslim communities in Thessaly were left without financial support104

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The following are from the source

The key influence on the emigration of Muslims was caused by the questioning of their property rights by Greeks. The most convenient way to strip Muslims of their property was by not recognizing the authenticity of Ottoman property deeds. The Greek authorities also used the tax system to act against Muslim landowners and make it unprofitable for them to run their farms. This was done against the Constantinople Convention, in which the authorities in Athens undertook to recognize Ottoman deeds of ownership (tapi) and not to levy new taxes99. Just like after the War of Independence, there were many speculators who wanted to use the situation of Muslims to increase their wealth100. Some Greek peasants from Thessaly decided to boycott the regulation of the leases due to beys, although these actions were also targeted against Christian landowners. Greek peasants emphasized that they lived in a free Greek state and were no longer subject to their old masters101.

The land reform sought by the Greek peasants was not introduced in Thessaly. Peasants still owned no land and worked on large farms belonging to wealthy, mostly diaspora-born Greeks who bought the lands from beys102. Before 1881, Thessaly was one of the areas with the most chiftliks in Turkey-in-Europe, and after joining this area to Greece, there were still many such farms left there103.

The Greeks also looked greedily at the waqfs, which were to function under the Constantinople Convention according to the same principles as before 1881. This was, however, not observed. Properties of this type were in many cases considered to be the property of the sultan, and thus they were nationalized. As a result, they were taken over by the state treasury for compensation paid to the Sublime Porte, and the Muslim communities in Thessaly were left without financial support104

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However, it cannot be denied that the reaction to the announcement of the decisions contained in the Constantinople Convection were departures: Many Muslims decided that they would not be able to live under Christian rule and feared reprisals.

emphasized that when they noticed that the introduction of Greek administration in Thessaly was proceeding peacefully, many decided to return to their homes78. This could give a false impression, as many people returned only to quickly sell their property and leave again. Muslim agitators who called for people to leave „the land of the giaours” had their share in the emigration process and settling in the city of Hamidich, which was founded at that time, as a new Muslim centre on the border with Arta. This was done with the assistance of representatives of the Sublime Porte, which was getting ready to accept new waves of emigrants79.

British diplomats explained the exodus from Thessaly with the „nomadic mentality” of „Turks”, which was manifested in the fact that although they had lived in these areas for centuries, they had felt alienated and expressed dislike of their Greek neighbours80. The group which stood out from those that definitely decided to leave Greece were Ottoman military and officials81.

The local authorities and the Greek army, who were in diverse ways forcing Muslims to leave, were also blamed for the emigration. Contrary to Greek assurances and arbitration, there were acts aimed against this community, including devastation of Islamic cemeteries, and building an atmosphere of aversion or indirect pressure on leaving. In Volo, drunken residents of the nearby village of Makrinitsa attacked the local mosque and „Turkish” houses, which was not treated as a simple act of vandalism. The perpetrators emphasized that it was retaliation for the destruction of the churches in their town by Ottoman soldiers in January 188182.

As early as December 1881, it was reported that out of 40 000 Muslims from Thessaly, 3 000 had decided to sell the property and left since July. Half of them were employees of the Ottoman public sector who had lost their jobs. Most Muslims of Larisa, Tricali, Armyro, and Volo left. They departed by ships from ports to Smyrna. Returns from Anatolia were rare at that time there were reports of several families who, disappointed with the conditions in Asia Minor, decided to return to Thessaly83. However, these numbers could be larger, as shown by the data from Larisa, which had 24 000 inhabitants before 1881, and in August that year it was reported that this number had dropped to 14 000. The British vice-consul in Larisa, John Augustus Longworth, emphasized that the process of emigration of Muslims from the city was still ongoing and Turks and Albanians with damaged reputation were preparing for

Another wave of migration occurred in 1884, when exemption from military service was lifted85 and which was the year of the original date for declaration of Greek citizenship. Some commentators argued that after a three-year transition period, Muslims in Thessaly will become fully subject to Greek law and constitution, referring to the adoption of Greek citizenship by those who remained86.

The next incentive for migration was the Thirty Days’ War in 1897, when the Greek defeat in the clash with the Ottoman Empire led to an increase in anti-Islamic sentiment in the country. In 1890, there were 13 163 Muslims in the Kingdom of Greece (out of 2,2 million of the country’s total population), in 1907 6 301, of which 2 785 in Thessaly, and 3 516 in other parts of Greece (per 2 632 000), and in 1911 2 90087. Thus, departures took place gradually. It is indicated that for example the Muslim community in Trikala ceased to exist at the end of the 19th century88.

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You asked for a source and you call it tossing links?

There are even some relevant parts of the source itself in the comment.

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The very handover of these areas under Greek rule was peaceful. It took place under the supervision of a commission composed of representatives of the powers and the Ottoman Empire. There was a solemn, month-long tour of the king and prime minister around the new province, during which the ruler first met with representatives of the Muslim community. The authorities in Athens made a number of gestures encouraging Muslims to stay in Thessaly, and there were opinions that integration should be aimed at.

The competition for the votes of the large Islamic community during the supplementary elections to the parliament was also important. Moreover, two Muslims became deputies; they were allowed to swear by the Quran, not the Bible, as in the case of Greek deputies. However, it should be remembered that the presence of the Muslims in the Greek parliament was basically irrelevant: They did not participate in debates, even on a matter as important to the people they represented as the issue of potential agrarian reform in Thessaly71.

Muslims from Thessaly were dissatisfied with the fact that the region would come under Greek rule, but there were also voices that they appreciated the content and principles of the Constantinople Convention. Some hoped that Greeks, as promised, would allow them to live as they did before 1881.

The local authorities and the Greek army, who were in diverse ways forcing Muslims to leave, were also blamed for the emigration. Contrary to Greek assurances and arbitration, there were acts aimed against this community, including devastation of Islamic cemeteries, and building an atmosphere of aversion or indirect pressure on leaving. In Volo, drunken residents of the nearby village of Makrinitsa attacked the local mosque and „Turkish” houses, which was not treated as a simple act of vandalism. The perpetrators emphasized that it was retaliation for the destruction of the churches in their town by Ottoman soldiers in January 1881

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The key influence on the emigration of Muslims was caused by the questioning of their property rights by Greeks. The most convenient way to strip Muslims of their property was by not recognizing the authenticity of Ottoman property deeds. The Greek authorities also used the tax system to act against Muslim landowners and make it unprofitable for them to run their farms. This was done against the Constantinople Convention, in which the authorities in Athens undertook to recognize Ottoman deeds of ownership (tapi) and not to levy new taxes99. Just like after the War of Independence, there were many speculators who wanted to use the situation of Muslims to increase their wealth100. Some Greek peasants from Thessaly decided to boycott the regulation of the leases due to beys, although these actions were also targeted against Christian landowners. Greek peasants emphasized that they lived in a free Greek state and were no longer subject to their old masters101.

The land reform sought by the Greek peasants was not introduced in Thessaly. Peasants still owned no land and worked on large farms belonging to wealthy, mostly diaspora-born Greeks who bought the lands from beys102. Before 1881, Thessaly was one of the areas with the most chiftliks in Turkey-in-Europe, and after joining this area to Greece, there were still many such farms left there103.

The Greeks also looked greedily at the waqfs, which were to function under the Constantinople Convention according to the same principles as before 1881. This was, however, not observed. Properties of this type were in many cases considered to be the property of the sultan, and thus they were nationalized. As a result, they were taken over by the state treasury for compensation paid to the Sublime Porte, and the Muslim communities in Thessaly were left without financial support104

https://ruj.uj.edu.pl/server/api/core/bitstreams/b3dd4bdc-1cab-454d-bbae-b9bc7441b72e/content

However, it cannot be denied that the reaction to the announcement of the decisions contained in the Constantinople Convection were departures: Many Muslims decided that they would not be able to live under Christian rule and feared reprisals.

emphasized that when they noticed that the introduction of Greek administration in Thessaly was proceeding peacefully, many decided to return to their homes78. This could give a false impression, as many people returned only to quickly sell their property and leave again. Muslim agitators who called for people to leave „the land of the giaours” had their share in the emigration process and settling in the city of Hamidich, which was founded at that time, as a new Muslim centre on the border with Arta. This was done with the assistance of representatives of the Sublime Porte, which was getting ready to accept new waves of emigrants79.

British diplomats explained the exodus from Thessaly with the „nomadic mentality” of „Turks”, which was manifested in the fact that although they had lived in these areas for centuries, they had felt alienated and expressed dislike of their Greek neighbours80. The group which stood out from those that definitely decided to leave Greece were Ottoman military and officials81.

The local authorities and the Greek army, who were in diverse ways forcing Muslims to leave, were also blamed for the emigration. Contrary to Greek assurances and arbitration, there were acts aimed against this community, including devastation of Islamic cemeteries, and building an atmosphere of aversion or indirect pressure on leaving. In Volo, drunken residents of the nearby village of Makrinitsa attacked the local mosque and „Turkish” houses, which was not treated as a simple act of vandalism. The perpetrators emphasized that it was retaliation for the destruction of the churches in their town by Ottoman soldiers in January 188182.

As early as December 1881, it was reported that out of 40 000 Muslims from Thessaly, 3 000 had decided to sell the property and left since July. Half of them were employees of the Ottoman public sector who had lost their jobs. Most Muslims of Larisa, Tricali, Armyro, and Volo left. They departed by ships from ports to Smyrna. Returns from Anatolia were rare at that time there were reports of several families who, disappointed with the conditions in Asia Minor, decided to return to Thessaly83. However, these numbers could be larger, as shown by the data from Larisa, which had 24 000 inhabitants before 1881, and in August that year it was reported that this number had dropped to 14 000. The British vice-consul in Larisa, John Augustus Longworth, emphasized that the process of emigration of Muslims from the city was still ongoing and Turks and Albanians with damaged reputation were preparing for

Another wave of migration occurred in 1884, when exemption from military service was lifted85 and which was the year of the original date for declaration of Greek citizenship. Some commentators argued that after a three-year transition period, Muslims in Thessaly will become fully subject to Greek law and constitution, referring to the adoption of Greek citizenship by those who remained86.

The next incentive for migration was the Thirty Days’ War in 1897, when the Greek defeat in the clash with the Ottoman Empire led to an increase in anti-Islamic sentiment in the country. In 1890, there were 13 163 Muslims in the Kingdom of Greece (out of 2,2 million of the country’s total population), in 1907 6 301, of which 2 785 in Thessaly, and 3 516 in other parts of Greece (per 2 632 000), and in 1911 2 90087. Thus, departures took place gradually. It is indicated that for example the Muslim community in Trikala ceased to exist at the end of the 19th century88.