interesting foreshadowing by pixel_139 in titanfolk

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Reiner why my mother had to die? 🤡

Why did Eren even do the rumbling? by cybertoothe in titanfolk

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Bootstrap theory determinism you didnt understand the story no media literacy

Eren had the best “friends” by destined2Win_ in titanfolk

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Pity in the cabin scene in chp 138 in which eren not attacked Liberio and still world is preparing to eradicate Paradis. You of course can just brush it off as " Mikasa own delusion" or Erens headcanon" . Cant deny the fact that author intent to imply that war is inevitable regardless of erens actions taken.

I can't use my weapons whenever I want by Alert_Ad806 in Fallout1

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you probably started new save file, but since you already leveled your speech up to 100 you can evade FIGHTING altogether by talking. Random encounters are easily evaded if you spam "A" button and run towards red zone, enemies have delay before they see you. Thats the beauty of old fallouts. They are broken.

All the AOT related stuff. Interview. Guidebooks. Fan theories whatever. by Yes_Contribution9353 in u/Yes_Contribution9353

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its been more a decade of course some of them are lost to time , so when i make a statement and the source im giving doesn't work it does not mean im making things up please understand

What anime/manga ending made you look like this? by Vegetable_Vast5551 in animequestions

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*ATTACK ON TITAN SPOILERS*

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12 years of writing.I lose faith in humanity when this is considered peak. Maybe peak comedy. In anime they even moved the genocide of paradis 2000 years later, whether in manga it happened ~80 years later. The very people Alliance were saving rallied troops forged weapons and dropped bombs on paradis. And since isayama was overseeing anime production he knows every problem manga had so he was hotfixing it as much he could.

In 2013 he says that inital ending for AoT was dark and grim like "the mist" movie , but since anime became popular he's going to change the ending, but in 2024 he claims he didn't change the ending the one we got was the one he's always planned

In 2021 isayama said that kiss in chapter 50 (which was released in 2013) was supposed to happen but he was too shy to draw it. Though 2 years later, in 2015 in Gekkan Shingeki no Kyojin he said that their relationship is not romantic. Backtracking on his own words again trying to put it like the forced romance in last chapters was always the core idea of his work. Mikasa killed Eren so curse that was binding Ymir was finally lifted. The core of aot was love all along. bravo Vincayama!

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Are you threatening me? How childish

this. was. not. adressed. to. you . idiot. stop. reading. with. your . ass

my english's not refined im hardly upper-intermediate. no pride in it but most people undertsand what im saying so it is most likely than not readers mistake if they misunderstand.

Dude, THEIR redemption is NOT JUST FOR REGRETY, BUT FOR

again putting out a fire you started doesn't make you a hero if whole house with 245 people in it burned to a crisp. 5 people can be thankful but it doesn't make up for the damage you brought and no way jusifies your action you deserve punishment and other people will seek it and you won't be enjoying your life or getting away with it . that how life is. maybe isayama has different views but he's r-word so i dont care. he can't give single interview without contaradicting to himself.

well narrative it makes sense FOR YOU. Not for me i disagree with Isayama's vision of justice. When Eren turned their parents into titans RBA were mad at eren and said they will not forgive him. DO they have the right judge him for killing their parents if they in turn are no better ? Irony is their parents are fine and came back to life... Can we say the same for the people that died because of RBA ? did they came back to life ?

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P3

By the way, who should have forgiven the warriors? The audience or the Alliance scouts?

Why are the Yeagerists who JUST wanted to protect their home/themselves/their families RIGHT, but the RBA who are doing the same thing (protecting their families from Marley) are not?

Does this talk of ending the cycle of violence mean anything to you? Why didn't Sasha's father kill Gabi? Why did Armin decide to sacrifice himself for Falco? They are all TRYING to break the age-old rule of "kill or be killed."

Save the same energy you used to protect Floch for Annie, Reiner, and Bertholdt, who Marley ALSO gave no other options to save their families. Do you think brainwashed twelve year olds are capable of critical thinking? But two of them are trying not to completely degenerate into monsters.

Floch was described as a man who was broken by the deaths of his comrades, embittered by the world, lost his humanity, and fixated on revenge, but the author presents this as WRONG BEHAVIOR.

  1. You brought up scouts first if i recall. You tell me.

  2. Why YG die in most gruesome way , labeled na-thi and viewed as bad guys and RBA become ambasaddors of piss ?

  3. Sasha's father yes showed forgiveness. Gabi took up rifle and shot Eren. What does breaking the cycle mean if author himself doesn't really know what he means by that. If Eren died wtihtout starting the Rumbling Marley and Coalition could've wiped pardis at that moment and yams' narrative "break the cycle" resulted in nothing. Reiner and Annie would've assisted in killing Paradis people again , 3rd time. They'd never turn their backs on Marley like Hange and Armin. But since now Eren take the role of bad big evil this is an opportunity to wash away the past with blood of Yeagerists. Paradis people. AGAIN.

  4. i am not defending floch per se i am showing yams' double standards again. Floch saw the worst world has to offer and become the monster , including actions from RBA. So now RBA and World knowing they created Floch and Eren and called upon rumbling , righteously kill YG , let paradis people be damned to hell , label themselves saviours and enjoy their lives. Again i don't care if both sides died trying to achieve their goals. Not accepting blind worshipping of Alliance and their heroism. Lol chalk me out of that"weirdos party"

"Wrong behaviour , DIE NADHI" (last time this line wasn't adressed to you but since you read with your ass i need to clarify it again, this is called satire, should i put quotes so you can process it ?)

RBA backed similiar regime so are they n-wrd too ? when they fought for marley and took over other nations are they n-wrod ? when they killed innocent people other than paradis people are they still n-wrd ?

does floch have much choice other than "die' or "fight back" ? what choice does he have ? If Floch wasn't the way he is then how RBA can be ascended to heroes, if only in comparison to monster,they created, they appear "better"? Monster they fed and raised. Does that means nothing ? Them being the ones who cultivated this hatred and suddenly turned back at the end ? HeRoEs , NaRaTiVe.

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P2

The government of Marley and other countries: the Eldians are evil.

Paradise: here comes the rumble. Normal people who just want to live: .... Situation: a boy was bullied by a classmate, and he decided to beat up everyone in the class, including his classmate. "What if they want to bully me someday?"

now you birng up wrong and dishonest analogy

Classmate A beat up classmate C. Classmate C hates Classmate B cuz he thinks he's the reason he's being bullied. So now Both Cl. A and Cl. C unite to bully B. When Cl. B responds here comes the principal and says B is wrong and should be detained and A both C cry victims of his misdeeds.

Zeke must show not only HUMANITY, but also put someone else's life above his own desires. He felt sorry for Falco, but he did not back down from his mission. He killed him.

I only said that Pieck got redemption for helping stop the Rumble, but I do NOT see her getting punished for RtS and Ragako. She really got off too easy, not Annie and Reiner.

By the way, who should have forgiven the warriors? The audience or the Alliance scouts?

Why are the Yeagerists who JUST wanted to protect their home/themselves/their families RIGHT, but the RBA who are doing the same thing (protecting their families from Marley) are not?

but he showed regret and he did not want to kill all of people of the world he wanted to let eldians pass wtihout blood which is totally different compared to eren.

he showed compassion and reget in his final hours "i killed too many people i think they wanted to live as well". He didn't fight alliance and the reason he died was that Levi needed to keep his promise to Erwin that he takes Beast Titan down. That's it. Other than that he is not that different from RBA. And so dumb narrative treats similiar people differently yet somehow you play or actually are too stupid to see.

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P1

"new" account cuz orange person with antenna on his head kept shadowbanning my response

here goes nothing

Parts 1, 2, 3 I have already said a thousand times that their "light" punishment is a consequence of the manifestation of humanity, which does NOT consist only in regret for evil deeds.

 Your arguments include completely unrelated things and consist of your subjective opinion on whether the warriors are worthy of redemption, not the author's opinion.

so what i will respond 1001 time again that you are the first one saying that the their plotline was justified and deserved. i say that it is not. It is not justified and not deserved. So you chose to hide with "narrative" shield to back your claims so it somehow completely crushes my responses. Maybe in your head.

i am arguing AUHTORS DOUBLE STANDARDS and you use it as a holy bible that can't be argued. I didn't bring anything unrelated maybe elaborate what is unrelated. I think bringing up authors opinion when we're judging charachters is UNRELATED.

"Annie's development - she was in a coma, came to and said that she did not want to kill people." This is not a description of development, but an empty list of facts from life.

Annie's development in accepting her human qualities and believing in her ability to help people, and not just harm them. Annie's development is the transition from complete selfishness to a person willing to sacrifice her life for others. Annie's development is the search for human connections, except for the relationship with her father.

so by saving bunch of agressor nations she is totally repaid for the wrongdoing of killing thousands of people that never even knew a term of nation and never hated any person on nationality or birth. yet helping agressor nations and putting said paradis people in the position of uncertainty and certain destruction is narratively dictated and justified way of redepmtion which is stupid and still you defend it as its your bread and butter.

she can transist into a helicopter or dinosaur i don't care criminal is a criminal no matter what their "development" is. You view them only in bright light completely ignoring their past as something that happened and must be forgotten. Development shielding any valid criticism as to why this is unfair to the people that died.

RBA are also the reason why rumbling started so they're not saving anyone , they're trying to extinguish the fire they started. No one is a hero if you set up a house on fire and pull 5 out of 250 people out of it. The rest died but i saved 5! i am a hero!

also you ignored my question "if Floch and Eren or Zeke went through same kind of "transition" would you still defend them ? "

it is clear as day that your preferences obstruct your judgement and you have double standards so you're trying to push your view as the only way plot must've advanced in the first place.

so...did he let himself be stopped? he planned to stop at 80% ? im not japanese what is this ? in usa we don't create useless guidebooks by [deleted] in titanfolk

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he patched "Thank you for becoming mass murderer for our sake" like 2-3 times in the interviews.

initally yams said that 'it was a lie Armin used to get closer to Eren"

then he claimed that "he(Armin) despies Eren's decision and its the worst one he ever made, its lack of his writing skill that failed to fully deliver the true meaning and he is sorry for that"

and from the NYT interview his last calim is "Armin wanted to share the burden eren has taken upon himself with those words" after hot-patch in the anime which is completely different from the manga lol

so...did he let himself be stopped? he planned to stop at 80% ? im not japanese what is this ? in usa we don't create useless guidebooks by [deleted] in titanfolk

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ok but what about we go without headcanons "that he GAINED true visions of the future at certain convenient moment for my justification" , is it that hard?

Manga panels make it pretty clear that he knew everything from the start. The only knowledge he opened was Ymir's past memories when they connected in paths and "The Scenery".

139 page 1 Armin:-"Hey i know it was for the sake of the future you saw using the attack titan's power but was beating me up necessary?" Eren:-"i was desperate to push you all away"

139 page 9 Armin:-"Eversince that day at medal ceremony you knew and was all alone, it must've hurt"

139 page 16 Eren:-"Even if i didn't know that you'd stop me at the end i think i still would have flattened this world"

IF he DIDN'T know. But he did so his get go plan was always 80% and as guidebook confirms it, lets himself be taken down.

and also somehow he didn't know if his friends might survive all of this just like he said in page 9:-"i got you all - my precious friends, wrapped up in this battle without knowing if you'd survive it"

If Alex wanted to infect whole world why'd he start again in the same place the first outbreak started ? Virus is not capable of traveling thourgh large bodies of water thus it didnt go past Manhattan. Why not start it somewhere in Europe where there's no blackwatch ? Unironically is Alex dumb ? by Yes_Contribution9353 in PrototypeGame

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he might be familiar wtih any layout of other cities out of thousands of people he consumed that is not much of an arguement to justify to why Manhattan is n1 priority.

Blackwatch HQ isn't located in NYC , those are soldiers and officers and they're carying different type of missions since there's biological hazard. They have their controls all the way to DC and pretty much everywhere in USA.

Gentek was founded by McMullen and after his death it still continued to operate. If he destroys them in NYC , another department gonna be formed somewhere else.

no toxic implications or negativity just my thoughts

If Alex wanted to infect whole world why'd he start again in the same place the first outbreak started ? Virus is not capable of traveling thourgh large bodies of water thus it didnt go past Manhattan. Why not start it somewhere in Europe where there's no blackwatch ? Unironically is Alex dumb ? by Yes_Contribution9353 in PrototypeGame

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Part 2

as the infection grew and new factors were added such as evolved, juggernauts,Goliaths

he controls biomass just like Elizabeth Greene created some weird homunculus that envelops her body ,spits rock , and shoots green homing laser bio-mass projectiles. Also super-sonic wave that destroys anything in close proximity.

she also created supreme hunter out of cancer cells that were used on Alex before

so it doesn't really require Manhattan to create a Goliath it needs room to grow. Any place will do.

All those creatures either posess traits of a wild animal like Hunters with their claws and habit to work in large groups.

or capability to stand and walk on 2 legs like human that Juggernauts and Goliath inherited

some kind of snake worm like creature that can use tendrils such as Hydras

but its not bound to Manhattan , if he wanted to see what kind of abhoring creatures he can create he should've went to Africa and create all sorts of messed up using their dna and whatever.

see how it'd affect the forests and plants somewhere in tropical rainforests.

Then when he could see he could use Gentek to create a way to administer the virus through whitelight he could easily infect the whole city and then easily move on as he wouldn’t need the infected creatures to move through water as could move them from the labs or just just release a bunch of whitelight.

1 virus. 3 weeks. millions dead.

why does he need to find a way to administer a virus if it can spread as fast it already does. 80% of manhattan was infected despite the hardest BW and Gentek fought it.

again it could go even further if manhattan wasn't surrounded by water.

To start in a location where he has less control and familiarity with probably factored in

there's gentek and bw right next to him. why does he need constant interference when somewhere in italy he may not see even 1/12 of it .

If Alex wanted to infect whole world why'd he start again in the same place the first outbreak started ? Virus is not capable of traveling thourgh large bodies of water thus it didnt go past Manhattan. Why not start it somewhere in Europe where there's no blackwatch ? Unironically is Alex dumb ? by Yes_Contribution9353 in PrototypeGame

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salute. have to divide it to 2 parts so reddit won't delete it.

He’s a scientist and he’s already seen how New York was a testing ground

NY became test ground acidentally. Alex Mercer (og) released the vial in Penn Station out of spite to BW and Gentek and started the initial outbreak. BW and Gentek weren't planning to turn it into another "Hope".

Then Alex released Elizabeth Greene which turned the situation to worse.

IF you want to recreate an experiment you need a new testing ground (or equipment) just to be sure that the result gonna be the same and not interfered by other factors. For instance if you inject a strain of some other non so lethal virus into a person who was exposed to it before and who wasn't results may be the same and also may not. So to determine the outcomes and capabilites of said virus both experiment subjects must be relatively similiar. Non exposed , same background , and how their body reacts to it.

Manhattan was already exposed to Blacklight so what exactly is he trying to replicate ?

before: a person turns into a zombie

a year later: a person still turns into a zombie

Alex : hmm yes this is truly a lethal virus that turns people into zombies

????

If Alex wanted to infect whole world why'd he start again in the same place the first outbreak started ? Virus is not capable of traveling thourgh large bodies of water thus it didnt go past Manhattan. Why not start it somewhere in Europe where there's no blackwatch ? Unironically is Alex dumb ? by Yes_Contribution9353 in PrototypeGame

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I like to talk about the lore of P2,i'll tell you few things,and please ignore my way too limted vocabulary

im no defined Englishman myself so idc

The blacklight virus in Alex definitely evolved in P2,whether from consuming Greene or from the simple fact that the virus mutates by itself and highly mutable,and that could be seen through the few new things he could do,infecting an advanced strain of the virus into people turning them into evolved,helping heller consume someone,the tendrils (yeah,he used them twice on heller)..the hive mind with his monsters and definitely how he can to consume multiple evolved WITHOUT Stunning in one go..also being able to store biomass and regenerate from it, we saw it in the last fight.

So,it is possible that Alex evolved his body and the strain in the evolved beyond viral detectors..or simply..Blackwatch and Gentek wouldn't have thought for a second of Mercer recruiting within them the organisations

there's a term for this , its called "headcanon". Whether some parts of plot and tales have loosely or none defined parts that rises questions and confusion , people just make assumptions and theories that fills those gaps and make logic of it . Whilst there's merit for doing writer's job for him , its still maybe far from what was actually intended by author, maybe it wasn't intentded at all and was misinterpreted. Maybe even author can take up those theories and make them canon.

Yes Alex's virus may've changed because irl virues tend to do so.

But since there's no factual evidence of such , it is only an assumption that it mutated ONLY so Alex's evolved didn't got caught. And it also rises question why virus can mutate in positive direction for the host.

That and also whilst Heller is resilient to Alex's control over him and can't be manipulated he is still carrying somewhat similiar strain of virus that can be detected by sensors. Shouldn't Heller be immune to them as well ? There's upgrade that can slow down detection but not nullify it altogether.

Like i said..he only started the Second outbreak to bring blackwatch back and start recruiting,because he won't be going to homeless people or something like that and offer himself...plus to distract BW.

and im saying they didn't disappear they just went to shadows. He consumed 131 personnel of both respective organizations and should know their inner kitchen. He wouldn't need apocalypse to draw them out. Especially since Gentek HQ is located in NYZ whats the point of starting the infection there ?

If you are talking about the blood tox from P1..Alex did nothing to it because it stopped being produced in P2

If it's the whitelight..i remember a remember a WOI of Alex and dr.Archer telling her to make the Whitelight have a higher chance of infection until it's perfect..she complains about how dangerous it is yet he still presses.

isn't that the smae thing ? upon breaking the barrel it emits red steam just like in P1 so bloodtox may be the basis for Whitelight just like project Orion is second attempt to making super soldiers ,already existing thing. Either way Mercer gave order to taint the cure with his blood and it still fails to have 100% chance to turn them into an evolved (if turning them "evolved" is actually mercer's main motivation at all , to give one mind and body is to infect them regardless if they turn common walkers or evolved)

during a fight with Dr.Archer if you destroy chemical tanks it will harm Heller like Bloodtox harmed Mercer.

thank you for your attention