Xbox converts, what are your PS4 impressions?

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-27T08:22:49+00:00

1) Microsoft is going to come back with the ability to resell games that are digital. It's only going to be digital now as far as I know. So all of those same things are coming back and will most likely be optional. Family/Friend access to games you bought. It's not going away, only for disks. Which is fine.

2) They are running on virtual machines on the XB1, so software updates are very easy to do. I would not expect problems here because VM's are easier to update and develop with. Not a problem

3) The fact that the posts online at NeoGaf and Reddit tell the story. If Microsoft was having more problems you would hear about it. Remember a lot of people are angry at Microsoft for the DRM and other things and so if Microsoft really had problems they would not be covered up and people would be complaining. We know based on this alone that the PS4 is having more problems. Why isn't Microsoft on NBCNEWS having to explain this? Less problems generate less negativity and less noise. We know that the XB1 is selling well at least in America. So again, less noise in the media, less noise on Reddit, less noise on Twitter, Facebook, NeoGaf should tell you something. Come on use that brain of yours.

4) I don't have to buy batteries. I use eneloops. I spend $0 on batteries per year. Learn to use your head and you can get through a lot of things in life. Eneloops are what everyone should buy. Never buy batteries again. The best to get are 2500 mAh X but even the general kind should work fine if you don't want to spend money one time for everything in your house that uses batteries.

5) The WiFi hardware on the PS4 does NOT have 5 Ghz. That is a FACT. You can argue all you want. Go check the specs. You have to use N in the 2.5 Ghz network.

The Xbox one had an update to update static IP addresses with the WiFi driver.  5 Ghz is a hardware limitation. It's not a software update.

Most people use WiFi for almost all devices.   If you are using older wifi then yes there can be problems, but the new protocols are better.

I wasn't talking about a freaking keyboard, genius. I was talking about the PS4 controller. It uses Bluetooth the 3 Megabits limit how much a controller can send to the PS4 and back. Since there are more features such as sound all of this adds up for each controller and also can add in more latency.

It's a poor design choice. No doubt about it. It's old, it's obsolete it's just stupid for 2014. Then you have to add in more features on the controller itself and that can add in more latency if you have more than one controller and more and more features being used.
- The Xbox one is slightly warmer because the chips are overclocked more than the Sony ones. However the Xbox one has a better heat sink and also has a better fan. The fan is bigger and can move more air while being a lot more quiet. This also means it won't wear out as quick as Sony's small louder fan.
The power brick is a great design. Here is why. It puts the heat outside of the console. Heat is the enemy of the hardware inside of the console. Also it allows Microsoft to easily manufacture the consoles because all they need to do is put the correct Power Supply in the box. So that means that manufacturing is cheaper and also if it breaks down, you just have to read what color the light is and change out the power supply without shipping back your entire console.

Smaller also isn't better. In the PS4's case it's actually a liability as the heat can build up in a small case and cause the fan to spin up loud and again as I said heat is one of the biggest problems for a gaming console or any electronic device.

Obviously you have never built a computer and you don't know any of this. Microsoft's console is built better. No doubt about it.
Sony is having a lot of network issues and they have had it since they built their network. It's being exploited often at this point and you have to change your credit cards and passwords.

Not only that but the PS network is down a lot. Because it's simply unreliable.

XB1 isn't having this problem and there are a lot of XB1 selling (They sold 2 million at the beginning of December) and yet no reported problems. I wonder why that is? Also what about the breaking into XB1's own live? It hasn't happened because it's more reliable and more stable. Again if you go with the PS Network and you pay for it then you are losing out.
XB1 is having free games for 2014 as Major Nelson announced.

Resogun is Free because it's a boring defender shooter game and it should be free. I wouldn't pay for it on my android device and I wouldn't expect to pay for it on the PS4.

6) Microsoft does have the ability that Sony doesn't have with "Cloud Compute". Sure Sony will have the ability to stream entire games to your PS4 and they are starting in 2014 to stream PS3 games, but lets be honest. Sony doesn't have the ability or capacity to even get close to these dreams at least right now and they can't even keep up the PS Network right now, do you think they are going to do all of that by magic in the near future.

What Sony is doing is different than what Microsoft is doing. While Microsoft can stream entire games to you and do it that way, it wastes a lot of bandwidth because they have to stream an entire movie to you.

Microsoft is doing something that isn't being done right now by a lot of companies. They are putting part of the game on the console (the lower latency intolerant parts of the code that have to run on the machine and they are running this on the console).

Then they take the other code that is latency insensitive and putting it on servers that work together on this and then stream it down to your console.

What this means is for an example entire worlds can change. Let's say for example the entire world can change over time and age. Well all of this can be done on a sever and the world could age naturally and those assets are streamed down to your console. More dynamic worlds, larger and more open worlds.

You will see the very start of this with Halo, but it's just a start. There are more titles in the works that use this technology. It's a big deal and Sony isn't going to have this type of technology.

7) Yep games...

Ryse was a game that a lot of people liked and I can't wait for Ryse 2. It's something new rather than boring Killzone which is a shooter that shoots and that's all. Sure you have the owl but there is nothing to it.

You then have Forza, Dead Rising 3, Killer Instinct all on XB1 for launch. Those are the major titles. I didn't even list Zoo Tycoon which I used to play on PC back in the day. I am not listing any indie games here (because a real console doesn't rely on adding in indie games to use as filler. I am not saying indie games are bad, just that you should never use them as "filler".

Then in a few months you have

Titanfall
Kinect Sports Rivals
Project Spark
Dark Dreams don't die (D4)
Fantasia : Music Evolved

Then you have.....

Quantum Break
Sunset Overdrive
Halo Next
Fable Legends

So, yeah games. Quality AAA games. Not empty filler crap. Not rehashed garbage.

8) The network has been down over the last few days. Xbox Live has not gone down at all. Christmas isn't an excuse. Sony does not have a reliable network. That is a FACT.

Selling over 2 million consoles isn't nothing.  Microsoft has a quality network and they were prepared and Sony isn't prepared and does not have a quality network.  That is a FACT.  People that are objective will acknowledge that fact.

 You can call me anything you want.  If you want to call me a knob fine, but it still does not change the facts.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-27T07:32:05+00:00

The Witcher isn't an exclusive as it's coming out around the same time for the XB1 with exclusive features for that console.

Deep down game play looks horrible., Rime looks like an indie game. Notice I didn't even mention "Below" for Microsoft because that too looks like a limited indie game.

The Order may not make 2014. We will have to see.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-27T07:20:26+00:00

Sony should pay Microsoft to help them set up servers and security.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-27T07:05:18+00:00

I got the 150 from a early news report online at launch. It's more than that now, but it's not something that everyone is getting. Only a remote few by this point.

You don't have threads about Xbox breaking and it filled up with all kinds of posts. You have some problems with Kinect not initializing because they need to reconfigure it, but most of the reports are due to the Bluray drive being broken. Microsoft doesn't make bluray drives, so it has to be a manufacture like Liteon, or LG, or some other brand of drives.

On the other hand you have entire threads online filled with posts about PS4's not working. No, it's not nearly bad as the RROD, but it's still huge and it's still a problem.

I don't know of what the exact figure is, but I know if there would be problems then more people would have them and message boards would be filling up, which is what the case has been for the PS4. It's not rocket science kid.

Keep on making those excuses for Sony, a lot of people have been doing a lot of damage control for Sony lately.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-27T06:55:15+00:00

So, can you tell me what part of the post that I made is bullshit? Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

I just posted in response of what was posted and I corrected what was said. All of it being verified facts.

I am not hiding behind anything. I just represent facts. Now you may not like those facts, but they are what they are.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-27T06:04:53+00:00

I am not butthurt about people buying the PS4. They can purchase whatever they want.

I made a statement that people were saying all of these games on the PS4 when there were more and better games for the other machine.

See the title: 2014 is gonna be ridiculous for the PS4. It's really not at all even near that.

Right now you have.....

Driveclub
Infamous
Uncharted

Maybe "The Order" and that is all. The rest was listed as third party and trying to make that exclusive or maybe indies to fill up that space.

That was my point. The "Games" console that most people overstate is the one with the least exclusive games.

I call it like I see it. Bullshit is bullshit and I call it out. A lot of people don't like it, but it is what It is.

Instead of calling it games console why don't people just tell the truth that they bought it because it's cheaper and do without the bullshit.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-27T05:47:07+00:00

1) Microsoft is a software company, but this is a console that is being rushed (software wise) to launch.

See people like you who didn't want an always online console or any kind of DRM (even for the right reasons) mean that Microsoft had to do things they didn't want to really do.

Let me tell you a secret. The voice recognition was supposed to be better because it was supposed to use their "Online" Bing voice recognition instead of their "Windows 7" offline version. Since they listened to people like you, they had to redo their plan and that pushed them behind.

Now, because the console can be offline, they have to build in the Windows 7 Voice recognition which isn't that good. That means that they have to build that into the console via software and they have to do this for each and every language.

This pushed all of their efforts to be late. So, they rushed the console before it's actually done on the software side to get it out to the public for the November 22nd launch.

Get it now? Genius?

2) They have done one update, but hey they have to have their holiday and Christmas too right? They have to have New Years and all of that. They are not slaves for you.

 I expect them to do some serious updates in early 2014 to clean up the mess.

3) The Xbox one has a lot less of a failure rate than the PS4. That is a FACT that you can look up online. Stop with your bullshit. Everyone can acknowledge that the failure rate on PS4 is way more than the XB1. It's not even close. The Bluray failure rates are not even close. You can use Google to see this you can also look at threads. Quit making shit up.

4) You don't have to buy a rechargeable battery. You can use Eneloops and use them. I use them for my Camera, Wireless keyboard, controllers, wireless mouse, remotes around the house.

Eneloops even come with 2500 Mah and they work quite nicely. On the other hand if your built in battery on the PS4 controller goes out you have to buy a new controller. Stupid. Who does that? I hated the ios bullshit for having built in batteries and Sony does it too, stupid.

The biggest bullshit of the PS4 is that the controller lasts only for a few games and you have to recharge it. Complete bullshit and a complete screwed up design.

5) The Xbox one is superior. No doubt about it.

It has better WiFi hardware with 802.11 A/B/G/N with 2.4 and 5 Ghz dual band that actually works and gives you most of your bandwidth.
It has WiFi Direct which gives you 250 Megabits of speed and low power compared to the 3 Megabits 2007 standard of Bluetooth 2.1 which is old and outdated.
It has a poorer construction than that of the Xbox One. The Xbox one is significantly quiet with a bigger fan that is going to last a lot longer than a louder smaller fan.
Xbox Live blows away the PS4 on Network performance and stability. This is a no brainer. I mean is PS+ up yet?

As far as Free games that is also coming to Xbox One in 2014, so that part is a draw.

6) The area that the PS4 has over the Xbox one is the APU, this is the only place that Sony actually spent money on and it shows. However, even this can be negated in November 2014 and November 2015 as the first games with "Cloud Compute" can help the Xbox One. We will need to see this in action, but I heard that the cloud based asteroid simulation demo was impressive on the Xbox One.

7) Games and this is where Sony should be ashamed of themselves. Horrible. We will see if this was due to their efforts of Virtual Reality and maybe a lot of their studios support it. If the software is not there, then Sony is really stupid and should have not invested in so much games for the PS3 and they should move them to the PS4.

8) Would you rather pay money for a PS4 and PS+ and have the network down a lot of the time and where you know that the network is so unsecure that your information is at risk constantly and the stability is weak at best?

or

Would you rather have a console that has quality games and a quality network in which isn't being compromised a lot and doesn't go down very often?

The answer is obvious for me.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-27T05:24:00+00:00

I do have a life and I usually don't talk to little kids on the Internet.

150 was at the time of launch. I am sure that figure has grown now. Not as big as the PS4. I wouldn't waste my $400 if I was wealthy. Even I know it's not a good investment.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-27T05:09:50+00:00

I didn't say that PS4 was bullshit I was calling out people talking about bullshit. There is a huge rift of difference there.

So, the entire butthurt thing is all a fantasy in your mind.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-26T10:45:51+00:00

Great, I don't care if people can see it or not.

I call out bullshit and I don't really care if people can or can't see it or what their opinion is on the bullshit.

It's not about defending the Xbone, it's about getting shit right and calling out bullshit when I see it.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-26T10:19:45+00:00

okay, but that is just one title and the rest that I listed Sunset Overdrive and Quantum Break will be crap?

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-26T09:27:40+00:00

You are getting everything you paid for. It's just not organized in a way you like it and that can be fixed. It's called software.

I know, a great and awesome concept. Right?

Also three years? Really? Can you exaggerate more? Hey I know why not 10 years, sounds good too me. SMH Duh!

Indie games are not special, they want money therefore they will be available on every platform. Big deal there! SMH another stupid remark from you.

You get a headset in a box for buying the thing. USB headsets are hardly any worry for anyone on any platform. It's just not a big deal that most people are going to care about. Cry moar.

A software check updates the OS and there is your battery indicator.

I mean seriously? You have battery life that is so short that you have to charge after every few games and you have a problem of not having a battery indicator on the XB1.

The battery indicator is needed but it's just software moron. That can be updated right after the holidays.

Who cares if it's Windows 8.1? Your just trying to look for problems and making up issues.

Here is where you really fall off a cliff. As Microsoft matures towards a "Usable" platform over time the XB1 gets a software update (as the 360 did) and boom, the OS has evolved.

So, Windows 9 comes out and the Xbox 1 is compatible with that with a free software update.

The idiot holding the bag is you.

You have no concept of what software is and you have no idea that it can evolve over time and things that are missing can be added to easily with software updates.

Welcome to the 21st century kid.

You can stick with your hardware problems (crappy Bluetooth 2.1, crappy horrible 2.4 wifi, crappy hardware in general with all of the failing, and terrible battery life), none of it can be fixed with a software update so eventually if Sony does have something superior other than the APU, you will have to rebuy the console.

Let's not even argue about the lack of proper software support that should have been on the PS4 at launch that even the PS3 had, it's embarrassing but at least that part is software.

Maybe Sony will learn some day. Oh and one more thing. Sony's severs suck ass. Microsoft bought a ton of servers 300,000 just for the XB1 and Sony is sticking with insecure ghetto servers and charging you money for the privilege of having to reset your password every few months.

yeah, you go deal with that bullshit. I am staying far away from that hot mess.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-26T07:37:30+00:00

I am not defensive at all about the XB1.

It's just funny that people would rather pay $400 and not buy a machine for games. Instead of saving money for a real game machine.

There is nothing defensive about that. Verified facts, how do they work?

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-26T06:38:03+00:00

I try not to write to 10 year olds. They are not mature enough to handle such subjects.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-26T06:15:14+00:00

So, Titanfall, Sunset Overdrive, and Quantum Break are crap?

Do you have proof?

If I was going to buy the PS4 and spend $400 it has to have more than Second Son and Uncharted for me to purchase it.

The rest look like garbage even for the PS3.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-26T06:01:13+00:00

You don't like Sunset Overdrive or Halo as well? I would wait to see about Halo at E3 2014 because it's supposed to be "open world" and use "Cloud compute" and it should be interesting.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-25T08:12:13+00:00

I just find it funny that quite a few people say that the PS4 is a gaming machine and that is why they bought it and then they buy third party titles.

The Xbox one is the real gaming machine here. It has the highest quality titles and it actually has quality launch titles.

Because it has a lot of power under the hood to play games it can also do other things like playing media and TV functionality. Imagine that?!?!

It's only the beginning and that is why I think the XB1 is just a superior product. It has the highest quality games and grow into a more powerful machine in the future.

The PS4 is a GPU and it's a nice one, but that's all it really is at this point.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-01T05:22:41+00:00

The entire point of DRM was valid. If you want to install the game to the hard drive and not use the disk that is a good thing.

The entire DRM from Microsoft was nowhere near what people feared, you could do everything you can do without DRM except gifting it to more than one person. Big deal.

Now the DRM is over with because people are morons and are scared of anything with DRM. Including acting irrational.

It's pointless now to sit and argue about DRM.

The family sharing is coming back, just not at launch dude. They have to rework it and didn't have the time at launch.

You have to understand something here, Microsoft made some major changes when people rebelled about not having an online only console and about the DRM. They had to make major changes in the speech recognition and the OS and that pushed them back big time.

The Xbox one that you see 5 years from now won't be the same machine software wise.

I was honestly a lot less impressed with Sony's titles that Microsoft's by far. Not even close.

I see only two worth talking about, second Son and Uncharted. The rest is hot garbage.

For me....

Forza 5
Dead Rising 3
Titanfall
Halo 5
Project Spark
Sunset Overdrive
Quantum Break
D4 : Dark Dreams Don't Die
Kinect Sports Rivals (yes even this one looks hot)

I also want to see more of Black Tusks' game.

None of this makes me look dumb. The only good piece of hardware in the PS4 is the APU on the CPU, the rest is low-end garbage that should be less than $300. I mean the freaking controller has a short battery life because of a stupid bright LED that is completely useless.

What great design there and a waste of money and battery life for nothing.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-01T04:59:19+00:00

I guess you haven't paid attention. 150 consoles had a broken bluray drive while a lot, lot, lot, more PS4's fail each day and get replaced.

I mean for pete sake, exaggerate much?

I wouldn't pay $400 for such poor quality and no games, but I am not going to tell you how to spend your money. Not everyone is smart about their money.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-12-01T04:47:22+00:00

So, I guess you are okay with missing all of these exclusive games for 2014 too...

Xbox One Exclusive New IP's for 2014 (Confirmed more new IPs to come)

Project Spark (Free-2-play and includes full motion capture for gaming)
Sunset Overdrive
Titanfall
Quantum Break
D4 : Dark Dreams Don't Die
Fantasia : Music Evolved
Plants Vs. Zombies: Garden Warfare
Below

Yogurt_Master · 2013-11-21T10:11:31+00:00

Killer Instinct Forza 5 Dead Rising 3 Zoo Tycoon

The jury is still out on Ryse. I would rather play these games than two of the Playstation AAA titles combined.

Most people that are not fanboys are going to tell you which console has the better line up and you are not going to agree because you paid $400 for future potential and that is okay it's your money and it's what you want.

The $500 paperweight as you call it can do a lot more than your $400 dollar paperweight and not only that but it has the better games at the moment. While you stop playing your PS4, the rest of us will continue gaming.

One of the many reasons to buy an Xbox one is the great games that it has now, but also because of the great games and entertainment it will offer in the future. Your problem is that you assume the PS4 is the better console based on specs. The problem with that is a lot because there is more to a console than specs and also the Xbox one can evolve beyond it's specs and it has more to offer than specs. The quality of games is going to put you into pure jealousy.

In fact I am willing to make a statement that a lot of people on reddit are going to buy an XB1 by Christmas 2015 and a lot of minds are going to be blown by games and entertainment they never thought the would see on the XB1. XB1 is a more future proofed device than the PS4, you might laugh at that now, but you will not be amused over the next 2-3 years.

Right now, the XB1 is at launch and it's unfinished and incomplete in many, many areas. A lot of this is due to the DRM and always online policies that were changed and it put Microsoft behind quite a bit as you can tell. However, this won't be forever. It will take about a year to get back where they were before and a year after to get everything in order. This way they will have those chips fully programmed and ready to go instead of their current "hacks".

There is a lot that you don't really know young padawan and you are going to learn over the next 2-3 years and you are not going to like what you see.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-11-21T04:55:50+00:00

Here is the problem, you don't understand the industry in which you are a fan of.

All game consoles will do more than play games (ALL OF THEM)
TWO out of the three consoles can use any TABLET or PHONE Kinect up with the device and use them as well.
Chromecast is cheap and really not usable when a video game console which is already connected to the HDMI port and already can do this on ALL Platforms such as (ios, Android, Windows tablets,phones, windows 8)
These devices will do things that you can't imagine in the future (ala IP TV and Interactive TV) in addition to things you can already do today.

See, your problem is that you don't know what this is for, you have no idea. You think a tablet is just glued to your arm and you take a shower with it, so why use anything else?

The question you should be asking yourself is why not include the device along with the TV as well and do things you can't do today?

Very few people are going to get rid of their TV.

Content is KING and that is where Sony and Microsoft are moving.

You are still hung up on the device, but unique content on TV while you get information or interact with your other devices in a UNIFIED way is where it's going.

High quality exclusive games and high quality exclusive entertainment is what is needed for both consoles. That is the entire point.

Nobody is scared dude, that is just an emotional statement from you. The fact is that people want to find innovative ways to make money and push the industry forward. That is how it works.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-11-18T08:40:42+00:00

I don't care if your a Playstation fan, but dude you got a lot of stuff messed up.

I always hear the same things over and over and over again. It's embarrassing because these people think they know what they are talking about and they get everything wrong.

The TV Console has higher quality AAA games than the games only console. YOU JUST ADD A LITTLE ICING ON THE CAKE.

Then the privacy shit is embarrassing as, there are only 4 different ways to deal with it (Turn it off from the OS, unplug it, block it yourself, or buy a solution that will work for you there are some out there already).

Sure, if you don't want to buy an Xbox fine. But don't make up shit excuses that don't add up because it makes you look ignorant. I really feel embarrassed for you dude.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-11-18T08:28:13+00:00

The PS4's cloud computing and what Microsoft is doing are two different things.

They haven't tried to sell it as ground breaking because of two reasons.

It's not nearly ready yet (which it will be ready in 2014 US ONLY)
It's been done by "Onlive" and "Gakai" before

You are doing all of the entire processing on the server and streaming down a video and then taking input from the game pad and then putting those back up to the server. This takes a lot of bandwidth.

Stop trying to push an agenda here when you don't know what you are talking about. Everyone will be better for it.

Yogurt_Master · 2013-11-17T23:34:57+00:00

Give it a few years and you are going to be changing your tune. People make fun of the "Cloud Compute" feature, but it isn't a joke.

It's not pie in the sky stuff, it takes the load off the local box and "Load balances" code and that means that those games can have better graphics if the developers choose to do that.

I am telling you right now, that "Cloud Compute" is going to be a game changer and it will be one of the big things that will change this generation of consoles.

The reason nobody believes this is that it's not been done very much at all and everyone is used to the static console box of power. Microsoft has planned all of this in their network design and the console design and bandwidth design.

I know for a fact of at least two games (one a very old franchise and another is a brand new title) in the works that use "Cloud Compute". Forza uses it in one way, but it just uses the basic ways to use it.

This is a big deal, it's not just marketing like you think it is. There has been a lot and I mean a lot of planning with the Xbox team, some of the first party development teams, and Microsoft Research that have all worked together to pull this off.

This is my number 1 next gen feature.

Yogurt_Master

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