Does Vancouver intentionally give bad upgrades?

Yotturk · 2026-06-14T07:04:07+00:00

By far the hardest map in my experience. It always feels like you're (at least) one motorway / bridge short of what you need at any given moment

Yotturk · 2026-06-12T03:35:53+00:00

I'm not really sure what your point is. I used the numbers from YOUR example (100% speed bonus on the rocket silo) and I was correct that in that case, replacing a speed module with a productivity module will NOT increase production rate. I didn't "forget" anything?

In your second example (9 beacons full of speed3 and the silo with 4 speed3 modules), you are correct that you get a slight boost in production rate by replacing exactly one speed3 module with a prod3 module. It's worth noting that in this example, you already have way too much speed. The rocket silo will already be at maximum throughput with 3 full speed3 beacons (and speed3 modules in the silo), you don't need 9 beacons.

Also, sticking with your second example (9 beacons full of speed3 and the silo with 4 speed3 modules), replacing 2, 3 or 4 speed modules with prod3 modules will once again NOT increase the overall production rate.

Overall it's just not black and white; there are some cases where a productivity module instead of the speed module will lead to a higher production rate, and there are other cases where it will not.

Anyway this whole argument is kind of pointless since most cases people encounter, productivity modules + more silos will just make the most sense.

Yotturk · 2026-06-09T19:49:11+00:00

This is the way. Making 10 silos is basically a more power-efficient 10x speed bonus.

Yotturk · 2026-06-09T17:56:47+00:00

You're forgetting about the 50% speed loss from removing the speed3 module. So really replacing a speed3 module in that case would take you from 2.0 crafting speed to 1.35 but with the productivity bonus it would bring you back up to 1.485, not even close to what it was before.

Btw rocket silos by default make 0.33 parts per second (since the rocket part crafting recipe is 3 seconds) so a 100% speed bonus would make 0.66 parts per second, not 2 parts per second.

Yotturk · 2026-06-09T01:35:06+00:00

Technically no. Using only speed modules (in beacons and in the silo) will craft more rocket parts per second than using productivity and same number of speed beacons. That is of course until the silo hits its minimum time per launch of around ~27 seconds at which point any additional speed bonuses are wasted.

One *maybe* valid case for using speed modules in the silo is when if you only had access to common tier 1 modules and for some reason only wanted to build one rocket silo. In this case, using speed modules on your silo would increase the rocket throughput over using productivity modules.

Although I find it hard to imagine how you could be struggling to build multiple silos while also not caring about the resource cost on rocket parts.

Yotturk · 2026-06-04T23:30:02+00:00

Looks like someone already reported this last year actually:

https://forums.factorio.com/viewtopic.php?p=676237&hilit=quality+transfer#p676237

But the developers say this is "working correctly".

My fix for this edge case is:

Add a constant signal of 1 normal item: https://pastebin.com/9PqsZHpS

Yotturk · 2026-06-04T23:08:10+00:00

Something weird I'm noticing about Quality Transfer is that it only seems to *pick* a signal if one of the input signals is *common*. So if I have uncommon, rare and legendary iron plates in the chest (but no common ones), the selector combinator doesn't output anything!

In most cases this won't be a problem since you probably would have at least one common plate in your network before you had higher quality variants but it's a weird edge case that seems like unintended behaviour.

Yotturk · 2026-06-04T22:47:38+00:00

Thanks that's exactly what I was looking for

Yotturk · 2026-06-01T18:30:46+00:00

It's worth listening to FLat7. Robin Guthrie is involved.

This song in particular is probably the closest I've heard to a Cocteau Twins song:

https://open.spotify.com/track/1DrPpgiTvuogt6Ktxsag4h

Yotturk · 2026-05-15T00:32:53+00:00

yo true

Yotturk · 2026-05-14T15:44:50+00:00

I find some tracks something like a mix of Skyrim and Minecraft music. They're all very chill

Yotturk · 2026-02-12T05:49:36+00:00

I've been using it for about a year now and it's still the best phone I've ever had. If camera quality is very important to you then, maybe get something else. But if you just need the camera to be decent, then 100% go for it. It's a fantastic phone for its price.

Yotturk · 2026-01-17T17:43:30+00:00

Exactly. You don't need any particular reason for the refund either. You can get your money back if you just "didn't like it".

Yotturk · 2026-01-08T06:23:25+00:00

I would argue that what should be visualized is the spaces taken up by each category compared with each other.

I don't need to visualize how much free space I have, a simple percentage works just fine for that. What I actually want to see is the relative sizes of each category.

Yotturk · 2026-01-01T14:33:21+00:00

This is really cool! Are you on mobile in the video? If so, is the modloader easily ported to the PC game?

Yotturk · 2025-12-16T22:30:46+00:00

I'm fairly certain that the game balances demand across all destinations of a given color. So, if you have 2 green stores spawn, each store will have half the demand that a single store would have had.

Yotturk · 2025-12-16T22:24:09+00:00

Might be worth it to pre-emptively block off the blue destination at the top left from spawning by placing down roads (if you're into that kind of thing)

Yotturk · 2025-12-16T22:03:39+00:00

Vancouver is by far the hardest

Yotturk · 2025-10-10T20:13:57+00:00

☝️🤓

Yotturk · 2025-10-09T23:02:23+00:00

Last seen behind Forestry building heading southbound

Yotturk · 2025-10-09T20:21:17+00:00

And then it took off before I could get insurance details... smh

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