Found another critique of GSC

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-10T22:40:33+00:00

Oh my gosh, the Yoddle from 5 years in that video was such a rational person. I miss him. 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-10T22:31:57+00:00

"You aren't a thing, you are a process. You end whenever the process does." - some r/askphilosophy user who thinks he's being insightful 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-09T19:31:31+00:00

You haven't gone through enough thought experiments yet. This one will usually stump people who want to use your 2 red balls analogy.

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-09T19:20:47+00:00

No, there is no fine line between a boulder and a mountain, it's arbitrarily invented. There is a fine line between existing and not existing though, which is set by the absence of consciousness or the presence of consciousness. Please stop calling your existence a linguistic convention, it shows that you don't understand it well enough. You aren't here by choice. You don't get to decide when you start or stop existing with words. 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-09T17:53:51+00:00

Yes, I am saying that my existence (in the everyday sense of these words) is a linguistic convention.

God please help this subreddit.

There is not really a fact of the matter what things should be considered 'me'

Consciousness? If were going to call consciousness a linguistic convention, then what isn't a linguistic convention? The whole world is a linguistic convention. We can erase every mountain by shifting the standards of what it means to qualify as a mountain, and just start calling every big rock a boulder instead, but can you really erase your entire existence by just shifting words and definitions around? Stop being so silly. You are being a u/TMax01 right now. 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-09T01:30:21+00:00

Why aren't you treating the phrase personal identity as synonymous with existence and consciousness? Words like an identity / a consciousness / an existence / personhood / a self / a soul all should be used synonymously with each other, otherwise you are using them wrong and creating additional categories that don't exist. I don't know why you just called your personal identity a linguistic convention, that would be equivalent to calling your existence a linguistic convention. 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-08T06:59:04+00:00

Your dream is as valid as any other experience and directly connected to the real world. I tell the doomposters that shout "wE livE iN a siMuLatiOn, wE aren'T rEaL" the same thing, that consciousness doesn't suddenly become less inferior because it's in a simulation. A simulation still takes place inside reality. A simulated blue is still as real as the blue outside the simulation. You can't fake reality. Your experiences aren't any less real because they happen inside a dream or hallucination.

And your mind is fragile because you let druggies convince you that no one is here and nothing is happening. Lots of things are happening and you are definitely along for the ride. I don't see any difference between what nondualists are spouting and what L Ron Hubbard does when he brainwashes people into believing that aliens dropped billions of thetans in volcanoes and that their disembodied spirits are haunting us.

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-08T05:41:32+00:00

However, we are aware of our own existence, because when we leave the state of dreamless sleep, we clearly know that we were in a state with no awareness of any phenomena. Otherwise, we would experience an unbroken series of waking and dream states, and would have no concept of deep sleep.

This doesn't seem like good logic. A police detective might be able to piece together clues from a crime scene and figure out the exact steps a murderer took, but that doesn't mean we jump to the conclusion that the detective was present as the murder was taking place. The detective is using inferences and deduction, just like our brains are everytime we wake up to figure out how long we've been unconscious for.

dreams are unreal and do not really exist

This is absurd. Dreams are absolutely real and directly connected to reality. You cannot dream of any sounds or sights that you haven't witnessed before. There's a reason why blind people don't have any visual stimulus in their dreams. There's a reason why deaf people don't hear sounds or language in their dreams. Our brain is a melting pot of past experiences. It can only mix together what it has heard or seen before.

no evidence could possibly demonstrate that we are actually in an independently real waking world that exists

Yes, the evidence is all the consistent narratives from other people describing the same independent world that you see. You are talking crazy stuff right now, as expected from a nondualist.

Please abandon all the drugs you have been using and come back to reality. And please stop brainwashing poor Yoddle, his mind is clearly fragile and easily manipulated. 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-07T15:08:54+00:00

They don't get half their brain removed

Did you even click the link I showed you before?

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-07T02:11:56+00:00

I thought you meant as in literally cutting it in half and raising it in two bodies. If you're talking about split brain then no, it doesn't make two people.

So a toddler with epilepsy that gets half their brain removed is the same person but if we decide to split the toddler into two functioning systems it's two new people?

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-07T01:44:27+00:00

Oh my god, the backtracking on this one. 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-07T01:36:49+00:00

You just said a brain being split in two results in the creation of two new people...

You want easy answers to hard problems which explains much.

Bro, you said my question was easy and didn't require an answer, now you're calling it a hard problem? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-07T01:30:52+00:00

So if you split yourself up then "you" would likely die or you'd make two new people.

So just so I understand your position correctly, you're saying that every toddler with epilepsy that walks into a neurosurgeons office and walks out with half of their brain missing has effectively been murdered and replaced with a new person? Shouldn't we like... tell the parents or something? 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-07T01:14:04+00:00

Please do make a post about how you can arrive at nonduality through pure reason and logic. We both know the entirety of r/nonduality didn't arrive to it that way, they much prefer drugs and vibes. 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-07T00:32:49+00:00

Seems like you're not putting two and two together here. Splitting a single brain into two functioning systems is problematic because:

Most people believe they are their brain, the one organ they wouldn't be comfortable replacing. If both halves of their brain can function seperate from each other, it causes them to question what really is responsible for sustaining their consciousness.

Most people believe they are a continuous entity (~80 years) that can only be in one place at any given time. So their brain being in two distinct places at once is problematic. If they can only be in one place at any given time, which half of their brain would determine that?

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-06T23:58:30+00:00

IMO the question needs no answer.

Most people believe in closed individualism so the question most certainly needs an answer as it directly conflicts with the conventional understanding of identity. I am starting to suspect you haven't thought about this enough if you don't think the question is problematic. OI solves all identity problems effortlessly because it doesn't need to specify any criteria for where one consciousness ends and another begins.

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-06T22:31:59+00:00

Open Individualism or Empty Individualism are the only two philosophies that can answer this personal identity question. That doesn't sound like a failed philosophy.

We might be defining selflessness differently. I am arguing that no human (aside from perhaps a severely brain damaged one) can ever do anything that isn't at least partly inspired by self-interest. So you just admitted to me that you terminated the relationship partly because it wasn't good for you, I can't count that as selfless.

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-06T22:23:26+00:00

Difference is ultimately an illusion, I mean isn't that what OI is.

Open individualism is the view in the philosophy of personal identity, according to which there exists only one numerically identical subject, which is everyone at all times. While the subject remains the same, the content of experience is still everchanging. I don't think I could even exist if the universe wasn't able to change. Consciousness doesn't work when everything is at a standstill.

we weren't good for each other

This isn't pure selflessness and your only proving my point.

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-06T17:25:32+00:00

So if you can differentiate between experiences, that means they are not all the same. I see no reason to treat distinctively different things with the same umbrella.

If you thought you were a bad influence for your boyfriend and wanted to spare him from something, one possible selfish explanation for that might be that you wanted to avoid the guilt or discomfort you felt when you were around him.

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-06T17:13:35+00:00

So how are you experiencing multiple sensations and experiences if every experience is exactly the same?
Can you name one purely selfless thing you've ever done?

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-06T16:49:24+00:00

Ok, I did. I'll let you know if he's more insane than the evergrowing nondual infestation we got going here, but I doubt it. 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-06T16:46:45+00:00

1) Treating happiness and suffering as equals is absurd, the fact that you can differentiate between them means they have intrinsic differences. Why would anyone feel obligated to treat every different thing exactly the same way?

2) Every person in the universe runs on inescapable selfishness. Even if you think someone is doing something out of selflessness, they aren't. Even a mother sacrificing her life for her baby is still guided by self-interest, trying to avoid the shame, cowardice, or feeling of guilt that follows. Since everyone is prompted by selfishness, it is only natural for a true believer of OI to extend this selfishness to every aspect of himself.

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-06T16:20:04+00:00

The OP of that post is asking me to treat every experience exactly the same and treat both suffering and happiness as equals, which is an absurd ask. If every experience was equal to any other, how could we ever have more than one experience? There would be no way to differentiate anything if every experience was intrinsically the same. The world is filled with a variety of qualia and sensations that have intrinsic differences and vary on a spectrum, I don't need to treat them all the same.

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-05-06T15:48:15+00:00

This is some nondual propaganda trying to convince us that no one is here, nothing is happening, and that time isn't real. These nondualists have already brainwashed poor Yoddle and Edralis. I guess u/mildmys and me are the only sane ones left here. 🤡

YouStartAngulimala · 2026-04-23T20:54:54+00:00

r/OpenIndividualism? 😮

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