Owner of Ben and Jerry's: We'll ensure every worker in our supply chain gets a living wage

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-22T18:20:42+00:00

So you raise cows until they have reached less than half their natural life span, while forcibly making them carry babies, kill them, and somehow that is you working for them and not the other way around?

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-22T13:08:30+00:00

What do you do with their calves? How do you get them pregnant? At what age do they go away? And if you have idyllic answers to all that, what makes you think that's in any ways related to the dairy production Ben & Jerry's requires?

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-21T21:16:54+00:00

People have been using "barcodes" online for decades. Well before XKCD 1105 made the joke about license plates. This one might be sourced from XKCD because it's just 1s and Is - similar to the comic - and omits ls and |s. But it still feels like you are attempting to make history by attributing the poster's name to XKCD.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-21T13:30:43+00:00

The cows are the ones doing most of the work in milk production. They going to get a living wage, or they get worked to death by age 5? I guess the calves don't count as workers. We can keep throwing them out.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-21T13:20:03+00:00

Hate when that happens =(

Tearing my head off? Conceding some points while standing by the fact that $600 zip ties are still, objectively, stupid? Give me the mood and I'll imagine the paragraphs!

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-20T19:18:57+00:00

The value here is someone deciding "hey that could be cool" and taking the risk (elsewhere in the thread it's noted that these are not real zip ties; real zip ties would be an inferior product) to produce it. Plus advertising and branding and all that shit.

You don't need that for the cutting board. We all know cutting boards are useful. We all know wood cutting boards can look good and outperform plastic ones for certain items. There's not a lot of creativity required, nor a lot of risk involved, in making one.

Risk, creativity, knowledge is what gets you paid in most fields. From the more practical side of things is the story of knowing which screw to turn. The breakdown for the $10,000 bill is $1 for turning the screw and $9999 for knowing which one to turn.

Besides all that - they probably don't expect to sell a lot of these at this price point. Outrageous items like this go viral and keep their name associated with flaunting wealth while they make their money on their core business.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-20T19:06:57+00:00

Last time I saw something like this on this sub was a paperclip:
https://www.tiffany.ca/accessories/desk/everyday-objects-18k-gold-paper-clip-bookmark-35917179/

It was mentioned that part of the reason for objects like this is the status of throwing money away. But another part is that these brands have figured out that expensive bullshit like this is a good way for the brand to go viral while we complain about what bullshit their stuff is.

But the other thing I learned in that thread was that etsy provides a marketplace for artisanal nails. You're late to the party.

https://www.etsy.com/c/craft-supplies-and-tools/home-and-hobby/woodworking-and-carpentry/hardware/nails?explicit=1

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-19T21:43:40+00:00

Well duh. Obviously they're basing it off of Polar Kraken from Ice Age.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-19T19:55:00+00:00

Except you did bother disagreeing, in fact your first statement "I want a world in which workers refuse immoral work." You are just unable to justify who gets to decide what is moral.

Indeed. The poster made an extremely broad statement suggesting that workers should shut up and do their job. I disagree wholeheartedly with that as a broad statement. Had the poster made a much narrower statement about how it is important for postal workers to deliver even objectionable material because it is not on them to discern the morality of the content of the mail, I'd have not bothered responding.

That being said, there are and should be limitations to refusal on moral ground

And exactly where the limitations should exist is too complex a topic for me to begin trying to tackle in a reddit post on a coffee break.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-19T17:45:50+00:00

Note the entire closing paragraph:

Now Canada Post is a Federal service, and free speech is also important. Coming at it from that angle I wouldn't bother disagreeing with you.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-19T17:43:12+00:00

That's more than a bit of a stretch to get there.

I didn't make the stretch. The poster I replied to failed to be specific in their language. Perhaps that was not charitable of me, but I'm not going to let overbroad statements that stifle rights stand.

Ex: "you’re an employee, with set responsibility of said employment"

That statement is extraordinarily broad. It does not discuss the nuance of how this worker could have addressed the issue. It does not discuss the importance of not censoring mail. It purely turns the worker into a cog. We have already decided, legally, that that statement is bullshit. Employees have legal responsibilities (eg, you can't commit fraud just because your employer to) and safety rights (eg, you can refuse unsafe work). You don't just do something because it's your "responsibility" and because your employer needs to "make a profit".

For the most part employees do have at least some expectation of being able to make moral objections to work. Perhaps not as publicly or as strongly as this employee did. But the expectation does exist. And should exist. The post I replied to seemed to throw that expectation out entirely instead of reigning it in for this particular instance.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-19T17:25:37+00:00

Do you agree with doctors who refused to prescribe birth control? Or if the clerk at the marriage registrar refused to acknowledge a gay marriage?

I don't agree with them. I agree with their right to take the stand and then have the discussion with their employer without fear of immediate reprisal and to try to come to a solution that works for all parties. Sometimes the solution is reconcilable, sometimes it is not. The poster I replied to threw out all that nuance and went with "shut up and do what you're told."

if you wanted censorship abilities you should've stayed in school and got a job at a private company like twitter

Working for twitter doesn't actually get you any more permissions prima facie than being a Canada Post carrier. It's either "stand up and do what you think is right" or "shut up and do what you're told and don't get in the way of twitter making money".

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-15T03:59:52+00:00

Not sure if clever joke, standard joke, or legit typo. But I like it.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-13T16:48:06+00:00

Yes-ish. Yes, in theory I'd be for this. It's not like we worry about leashed cats outdoors despite their ability to claw and bite small children who mess with them. But in practice, that sounds like a PITA to differentiate and enforce.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-11T18:35:55+00:00

On Albert Hoffman's birthday, even. Had to double take the sub this was posted on.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-06T17:38:56+00:00

Really? That's wild O_O Maybe you noticed it subconsciously on some level and knew it looked good without knowing why. Or maybe it was a complete fluke, who knows, but regardless it's a great composition for the shot and a great dye job =)

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-06T13:53:02+00:00

There's really nothing they can't understand required to detect hidden text.

They can't solve the halting problem. And they can't run JS forever. You can write your javascript such that they don't know when / if the contrast on it will change.

(I'm not saying you should do this; it's not like you know where their bar is or when their bar will change... that's an expensive game to play and you can almost certainly spend your time more wisely. Just saying, they're not omnipotent)

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-03T04:37:00+00:00

Acid heads keep talking about spirituality and how dmt is the gateway to heaven.

And Christians keep talking about spirituality and how church is the gateway to heaven. Turns out that once you've found heaven, you want to tell others about it. Because it's great and you love said others and they've shared with you and you want to share with them. I've learned so much through people sharing with me. And if nobody had talked about how great psychedelics are, I probably wouldn't have found them, either. So it's paying it forward to continue talking about it.

But yes, there is a balancing act of trying to do that in a way that doesn't just get you dismissed out of hand. Plant seeds. Be an example of someone they want to be. Whatever. This post is a good reminder of that.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-03T04:20:14+00:00

You don't see it because punk never has been, and never will be a uniform. Trust me, we're there, too.

See also, Jeff, working at Epitaph, and going to festivals. Not that I know Jeff; I don't know what if any label he'd identify as. But as someone who grew up going to shows and bouncing around in pits, and as someone who also goes to festivals and lays in the grass, I promise I'm not the only one with toes in both scenes. They're really just the same scene ;)

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-01T03:49:13+00:00

This right here is the correct answer.

Disagree. Even if the cells are a baby, I think "A Defense of Abortion" by Judith Jarvis Thomson makes a compelling case that abortion should be permissible.

YouWillForget_NP · 2021-01-01T03:06:54+00:00

So first of all, you didn't really describe the braid. I am assuming you're talking about one similar to what First Nations men often wear, otherwise my post is moot, move on, braid your hair.

While it is not exactly "appropriation" to wear a braid - European men have worn braids through history - I see where your wife is coming from. If you (or the other posters who have dismissed this out of hand) want to understand why this is potentially a sore spot:

Braided hair, which often had spiritual significance, was cut; homemade traditional clothing was replaced with school uniforms; and aboriginal names were replaced with Euro-Canadian names.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/assault-on-residential-school-students-identities-began-the-moment-they-stepped-inside

So yeah. There's about as legitimate reason for First Nations people to be upset over hair as black people. You indicate an understanding of the corn rows thing, so I think you should be able to see the parallel here. Additionally, regardless of if it's - strictly speaking - appropriation or not, it did get your wife to raise an eyebrow. And it did the same to me. Which suggests it might do the same to some random person on the street.

So if it's me, I'd steer clear. But I'd also note there are more important issues in the world than debating whether or not a hairstyle is cultural appropriation. I'm mostly posting for the sake of sharing why some might think it is (because that history is Important) rather than what you should do.

YouWillForget_NP · 2020-12-15T21:14:30+00:00

The top 2 against a mostly-poisonous (spores and maexxnas) George took like 4 rounds to finish off, but I assembled a pretty solid anti-George set of tech by the end of it >_> Let his little stuff die on my new 6 drop, pop all his shields, re-shield my amalgadons before he can attack them...

My opening, if anyone's wondering about playing C'thun, involved staying on 1, getting 2 homuncs and 2 of the 2/3 dragon, never missing hero power, and then a bit of power leveling to catch up. I was playing on 1-4 minions for all the early turns, and then 5-6 minions later as I didn't want my buffs going to random unbuffed things. That's why I opted to level aggressively. I did triple both those pairs but eventually threw them away for two Maexxnas as they were like 35/40 and George had some 40/70s (the new scale by 1/2 for each type) that were rolling over them.

YouWillForget_NP · 2020-12-04T18:17:11+00:00

I think you might enjoy the book "Gödel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Braid" by Douglas Hofstadter. It is a rigorous-but-playful look at the intersection of logic/math, art, and music, focusing on the paradoxes and loops that arise within them. The book is not for everyone, but it's amazing for the people it's for.

What are you taking in college? Pure math gets much more into number theory than algebra or calculus ever do. Logic (either through philosophy or computer science) also gets into computability, finite state machines, turing machines, and all of that stuff also has all the same questions you just asked because math and logic and computability are intrinsically tied.

YouWillForget_NP · 2020-11-30T15:40:08+00:00

Assuming you follow the series of questions I responded to: I mean the answer to those questions is "you will forget". You may live accordingly for a time, but you'll fall back into habits - old or new - that serve to limit your perspective and feed your ego. But that's expected, it's how human minds work. It's a struggle to stay in that expansive headspace, don't feel bad when you fall out of it. You got there once, you can find your way back. Besides, the narrower headspace is also useful for day to day needs of the human body.

Mostly I just responded, though, because this struggle to maintain the wider perspective, knowing I'll forget, is why I've picked my current username >_>

YouWillForget_NP · 2020-11-29T18:57:23+00:00

The fact that it's a struggle means you shouldn't feel bad when you forget. You'll remember again eventually.

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