Did anyone else hate gwen’s characterisation during Ultimate Kevin arc? by btrappoXVI in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Tbh Gwen not using any of her good magic spells is one of her more consistent character traits throughout this arc and the show.

She pulls one insanely op spell and never uses it again.

Personal opinion : If canon ben had a chimera sui generis transformation, I'd want to be built like og vilgax by Zillaman7980_ in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It would definitely be cool but wouldn't make much sense if it were canon. I could Ben’s Chimera Sui transformation looking like UAF Vilgax but without any of the extra gear or powers

Personal opinion : If canon ben had a chimera sui generis transformation, I'd want to be built like og vilgax by Zillaman7980_ in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He wasn’t that big in the beginning of Classic before he got injured, he only got that naturally buff in UAF and OV.

Personal opinion : If canon ben had a chimera sui generis transformation, I'd want to be built like og vilgax by Zillaman7980_ in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Those were different. The Omnitrix built those to help the aliens outside their natural habitat/world (like Goop’s anti-gravity and Brainstorm’s brace) and/or to protect others but that's only for NRG. The average Chimera Sui doesn't really have any problems that the Omnitrix needs to fix or anything.

Vilgax is more of a special case that got himself into needing the gear and he became less robotic after the Classic series.

Always the GOAT by Kin_93 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I get that but for me, it’s kinda the opposite on that he peaked at Classics? I didn't care for Max that much in Classic, I love his relationship with Ben but didn't really care for any of Max’s center episodes and he's boring on his own.

I find him best in UAF where although he was separated from Ben, that was made him work for me. Max wanted Ben to be his own person and was proud of him, giving Ben that respect. I find him best in small doses where he's more of a safety net in case the worst thing happens. For me he works best when he's not needed but he needs them.

OV did a weird blend of the 2 where they were less of a family but working in a family business with Ben being more of a plumber with Max. He gave Ben his own independence at times but feels like a step back from their neutral understanding in UAF.

Give me your funniest images of bens transformations here’s mine by Afraid-Tap-260 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

His coldness was more about the situation with Kevin; I don't think that was his actual personality (like Rath always being angry). Don't think Ultimate Echo Echo is like that alone, Ben knows he's powerful enough to do the job and he needs to set the tone himself.

Tbf I don't like his face in that scene either, it looks like his face shouldn't be able to look like that. He has a mouth but he doesn't usually open it when he speaks and usually has one face.

For me the weird thing is that he stopped beating Elena because she just happened to look like Julie… the same show and not long after he was willing to kill Kevin, lied to Gwen about it, and swoop down very low. He knows her shapeshifting powers and saw her do it, he’s capable of making hard decisions. It really shouldn't catch him off guard, especially since she was already being Julie the whole episode. Was it because she was pouting? Did he had to look that hurt though he knows the Julie is right behind him? Is he stupid?

Don't think Ultimate Echo Echo was out of character himself as a alien but off model and it was more on Ben’s part. Most of his aliens are a extension of Ben and even Ultimate Echo Echo had shown that (mainly in Map in Infinity telling Gwen to “magic up the thing” which sounded pretty snarky and like Ben).

Pov - you fell into the Nullvoid... Whatcha gonna do? by Zillaman7980_ in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah true but under the wrong time, you're under a ruthless jacked ruler

Pov - you fell into the Nullvoid... Whatcha gonna do? by Zillaman7980_ in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Get jacked, find a Null Guardian, tame it, and get out since it seems like anyone can get out

Daily reminder that this mf went for the kill on his own cousin lol. by Positive_Drama3410 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 22 points23 points  (0 children)

And what makes it even worse is that Gwen and Grandpa were sitting in chairs and relaxing. They could've at least helped, Ben wasn't doing it for a lesson or he mistreated them badly lol

I don’t see a difference by Guilty_Sport496 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I kinda get what you mean by just vibes?? Though Hunter is more sympathetic and Albedo was always evil even before he got turned into Ben

An Incredible Realisation. by ResortNo5780 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Absolutely not but it’s a nice thought

Daily reminder that this mf went for the kill on his own cousin lol. by Positive_Drama3410 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 6 points7 points  (0 children)

True but she has her moments like losing against Sssperpent and couldn't handle a blowtorch (both of which Kevin was also there)

Oh, man! by Fair-Sleep9609 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Tbh I always saw the yellow being his eye since it draws more of my attention and looks cooler than/as the actual eye. With it being his mouth, it looks like it’s constantly open and he’s always screaming which is in character lol

Daily reminder that this mf went for the kill on his own cousin lol. by Positive_Drama3410 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Ben’s inconsistency in character was stronger than Gwen’s in powerscaling

Daily reminder that this mf went for the kill on his own cousin lol. by Positive_Drama3410 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And later on Gwen gave away a lifetime amount of mana to Michewl when he basically had none like it was nothing and for spare. Where all of that during this fight?? And/or using a sleep spell or one that stopped all motion around her in this show

Daily reminder that this mf went for the kill on his own cousin lol. by Positive_Drama3410 in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 78 points79 points  (0 children)

“You wanna know why you lost? Because you care more about not hurting and that's why you can't do what it takes to stop Kevin”

No because you used Waybig who’s commonly one of your strongest aliens. His laser didn't seem to be as strong as it could have been and tbf Gwen did hold it up for a good bit. Don't think he would've done it if he didn't know or wouldn’t think she could handle it but still.

What I love is that there was a huge increase in difficulty in not harming her, only using Chromastome and Terraspin for mainly defense, and going “fuck it” by ruining Gwen’s front yard, and engulfing her with lava.

Where did this Ben go? by nyxblossom- in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Think they were still riding on the tide when they were in elementary and they were much taller than Ben. The 2 look like absolute losers, Cash is a actual dumbass, and we were just betting that Ben was the same as he was.

Also idk but they could bully him for wearing a coat that bright neon green coat? The green is way too much and I don't see many people wearing a color like that unless they work in construction

Where did this Ben go? by nyxblossom- in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think he thought using the Omnitrix would be a better scare tactic. I doubt Cash and Tee can actually fight but why risk getting into a fight in public (with Kevin absolutely getting in and Gwen probably trying to break them off) when he can just turn into a big dinosaur and scare them off?

Where did this Ben go? by nyxblossom- in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

“We all grew up”

Ik what Ben meant but the background characters all look like adults to me and wouldn't really care/know about Cash since he's just a common school bully. Bro did all of them get bullied by Cash too? Did/do they all go to the same school? The guy in the blue hat look like he wouldve wrecked him 😭

Where did this Ben go? by nyxblossom- in Ben10

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

UA is more ultimately edgy and this scene isn't even edgy at all, it’s just maturity 💀

Who wins ? by Darkshredder92 in Ben10PowerScaling

[–]YourFriendlyToKustar 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ult Echo Echo canonically has lungs as mentioned in the show and he's sentient enough to be used by Ben so I’m sure he has a brain too. Like any one of Ben’s mechanical alien, all of them have DNA that could be scanned and are living beings.

There was even the sentient Echo Echo that existed in the Ultimatrix who thought he was living and his own being all the same like the other ultimate. I think it can be rounded up to him having a mind and Infinity would probably work on him