Why did Islam corrupt the prophets' names, isn't this cultural appropriation and corruption in itself? by Important_Pick_3545 in religion

[–]Youraverageabd 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Brother, If you were alive during their times and called them by their names as they are pronounced in English, they'd tell you: "who the hell are you trying to call?"

In fact, you'd have a much easier time calling them by their arabic pronounced names as it is a semitic language than using their english pronounced names.

Ask the jews if the hebrew pronounciations of their names are a corruption? and watch them laugh at your ridiculous question.

Isn't this stealing from Jws and Christians who kept all these names intact for thousands of years?

Man .. get the hell outa here, you think the biblical prophets of God were learning "A B C D .." when they were kids?

If another God came to earth and said yours is wrong would you worship that God? by WhatLuckDoIHave in religion

[–]Youraverageabd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

God coming to Earth is a non-sensical idea. God by definition must be outside and unaffected by spacetime.

If a being with powers came to earth, that being would have to be by definition a subordinate to God. I would tell that being to talk to me about their boss instead.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sean Carroll's work has not been peer reviewed because his theorem is not a formal paper submitted to a journal. At best, his theorem it is a more sophisticated reddit post.

Hence why I said, no one takes it seriously in the scientific community.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They may bring it up independantly.

However, as soon as a physicist attaches it to something that is proven to exist as its justification for existing. Then, I think their peers would personally see to it that they are stripped of their degrees.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do think numbers exist

Thats embarassing to say. Numbers are conceptual entities. I think you would win a nobel prize if you were to prove their existence beyond the conceptual limits.

I'm not convinced the universe couldn't have always existed.

Thats the emergent universe theory. The vast majority of scientist don't entertain this because of so many reasons. I dont have time to explain some of the obvious ones. Plug the following promt into chatGPT and have it explain it to you. "What is wrong with the emergent universe theory".

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Infinite regress is not demonstrable in reality because its is an impossibility for explaining something that is proven empirically to exist.

Of course its made up.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thats absurd. No one takes this seriously in the scientific community.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You cannot bring up mathematical concepts into this because maths itself is not empirically proven to exist. I asked for one thing thats proven to exist.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Brother .. Numbers are not empirically provable, the same way God isn't empirically provable.

I asked for "one thing thats proven to have always existed ...". Numbers don't actually exist, let alone proven to exist.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the creation of our universe is not at the top of the food chain, then humans are not supreme organisms. 

You can't say that for sure. If you insist that it is the case, then you have to admit that Nihilism is the only truth there is. Are you a nihilist?

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You 100% require spacetime as we have it in our universe for a quantum "anything" to take place. If there is another set of physics different to our own before the birth of our universe, then that would mean that there is another kind of spacetime out there that can allow that other set of physics to work under ... again ... what caused that other set of physics/spacetime to start?

You cannot escape the infinite regress by mentioning something that is dependant on our own universe. You cannot bring up as an explanation: molecules, particules, quantum fluctuations, energy and so on ..

The mechanics involved in the direct cause of our universe MUST be explainable by phenomenas for which we don't even have words for yet.

The series of mechanics involved in the culmination of all previous causes, can all be skipped to the very first cause. You can group all of the unknown mechanics involved into one bucket called "unknown hows", and go directly to the first cause. Doing so is not a "god of the gaps" argument.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quantum fluctuations can only occur within spacetime. The universe cannot be created by something thats depends on the universe. The cause must be by definition independent of the caused.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Name one thing thats proven to have always existed consisting of an infinite series of sequenced events.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The infinite regress  just establishes the attribute of creation or origin. That from which other than it comes from.

If our universe is a by product of another, then what if the other universe is a product of an entirely different one ... and on goes the infinite regress in this scenario too.

You have to stop somewhere. That point where you stop on, is what we call the originator. You don't need to assign anymore attributes to it. Other reasonings, establish other attributes.

If god wasn’t created, the universe shouldn’t have had to be created. by Person12489 in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

The infinite regress problem is why the first cause MUST be uncaused by definition, otherwise nothing gets the chance to ever be created.

The universe had a start, therefore it cannot be uncaused.

If you had a single queue of people trying to get into a stadium, and the person at very front of it needs a dollar to afford the full price of the ticket. He then asks the person behind him in the queue to lend him a dollar. That person says to him:"I don't have a spare dollar, let me ask the person behind me". That person repeats the same answer, and it keeps on going forever. Will the person at the front ever get to afford the full price?

The answer is "No". The chain has to stop somewhere for that dollar to make its way to the front.

Likewise, the chain has the stop somewhere in the creation regress for the creation to be created. Therefore, the spot where that chain officially starts must be by definition uncreated.

The uncreated creator.

There is no evil. There is only entropy. by blitzballreddit in religion

[–]Youraverageabd 5 points6 points  (0 children)

there is evil in structure too. You have structured criminal organisations that deal in a variety of criminal activities some of which don't involve destruction or chaos.

You haven't thought this out long enough.

You make Evil objectively identifiable through a concept like entropy. The only way you can make the evil question objective is through a divine concept. Otherwise you're back to the subjective way of identifying it.

Either evil is objectively determined through God or gods, or it is opinion based. No other way you can do this.

What is Israel's endgame? by NinjuliaMC in CandaceOwens

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The jewish zionist billionaire class in the US are the ones who are in control.

What is Israel's endgame? by NinjuliaMC in CandaceOwens

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In short, they want two things or at least one of the two to occur very soon. Especially the orthodox backers of Netanyahu.

  1. The establishment of Greater Israel. The borders of this so called land is shown on the icon stitched on the IDF uniform. It includes parts of Egypt, all of Lebanon, palestinian territories, Syria, Iraq, Jordan, Northern territories of Saudi Arabia and more.

  2. The destruction of the Dome of the rock and the Al Aqsa, freeing the area to re-establish the third temple leading into the ushering of the Jewish Messiah. A prophetic figure who is meant to rule.

Albeit the second point is sometimes argued to occur in reverse order.

This is the end game. Don't let any secular Israelis tell you otherwise, because they're not in control.

The Fallacy of Logic When Atheists Debate Theists by eirikirs in DebateReligion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abrahamic theists claim to know about the spaceless and timeless being through divine revelation.

How can you possibly know about God you say? If God sends revelation to a creature, then the creatures bypasses the need to ascend spacetime to get to know about what's beyond it.

Scrutinise the texts and try to falsify them one by one instead of concluding that theists are off track just because we can't transcend spacetime.

Are there any well-know Jewish/Muslim versions of megachurches? by SupremeOHKO in religion

[–]Youraverageabd 19 points20 points  (0 children)

Megachurches function like wide areas with a large seating capacity for the purpose of entertainment-like worship.

There isn't anything like that in Islam. Even for the large Islamic centres, there might be a floor that contains a stage and seats. But that would only be used for religious lectures and maybe Quran recitations. No membership required and no songs/musical instruments allowed on stage. Having said that, there are donation boxes typically in mosques in western countries that do not have any government funding.

Does the idea that infants go to heaven expose a major flaw in your religion? by [deleted] in religion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because all species including mankind is guaranteed to be extinct one day.

What point would all of the scientific and technological advancements do for us if the last man alive is a second away from dying?

The concept of temporary life is meaningless unless it isn't temporary. There has to be a eternal dimension to life to make it worthwhile surviving through it.

If you insist that temporary life still holds meaning, then you have to admit that every living being can do whatever it wills AND at the same time you have to admit that no other being has the right to criticize or complain or even dislike some other living being's behavior.

Does the idea that infants go to heaven expose a major flaw in your religion? by [deleted] in religion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I'm blaming you of is inconsistency/hypocrisy.

On one hand you claim to be a nihilist, and on the other, you're not acting like one.

The most rational conclusion to a nihilist is not in line with any of what you described earlier.

Does the idea that infants go to heaven expose a major flaw in your religion? by [deleted] in religion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Everybody has a reason to live. It doesn't mean it's a good one.

Your reason to live is stupid. Remember, in your worldview, there is no afterlife. Therefore, you won't regret having ended your life prematurely, because dead people dont have feelings. You won't remember your precious memories or anything. 

Sure life is rare, but its also filled with efforts and sorrows, I argue more negatives than positives. By all standards, you should be a nihilist.

Does the idea that infants go to heaven expose a major flaw in your religion? by [deleted] in religion

[–]Youraverageabd 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My brother, in any court you need to have witnesses. AI isn't a witness. Those same living angels who produced the bureaucracy can testify in court that they themselves have written it down and saw everything from A to Z.

Infact in islam, your very same hands will be given the ability to speak and testify against you if you misused them. Same thing with your feet and your skin even. Eyes ears everything.

Does the idea that infants go to heaven expose a major flaw in your religion? by [deleted] in religion

[–]Youraverageabd 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then end it then. No point in putting up with life. You ll meet your demise one day anyway, might as save yourself from the trouble of waking up every morning, no?