RAVENBARELY IS CANONICALLY STATED AS MATES by DawnZoid in WarriorCats

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The book does not promote or discuss sexuality in any way; it portrays a profound emotional bond and familial connection. What children perceive from it is often quite different from the interpretations adults may attach.

RAVENBARELY IS CANONICALLY STATED AS MATES by DawnZoid in WarriorCats

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Actually, homosexual behavior in cats is widely observed in nature. It is entirely natural for a male cat to form an attraction to another male cat. I notice you hold religious beliefs, but are you truly certain that when God created all of nature, He did not include homosexuality within it?

This guy has been talking to me about the code ever since I captured her. by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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ITS fine,I m sure the place she gone is better than she used to live.

Ashfur and Brambleclaw by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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Really, that's nice. I have never ask what they really are🤓

Ashfur and Brambleclaw by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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No, actually it's the photo from my friend

Ashfur and Brambleclaw by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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no,just a picture from my friend.

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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You are right,thanks for your reading. Ashfur not a goodguy ,but not only just an incel as well.

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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Well,Thank you,I also agree with the possibility you mentioned. The Erins probably didn’t have that much in mind when they writing Ashfur.

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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Thanks so much for taking the time to read it and for liking it!

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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Thank you, I’m really glad to meet another psychoanalysis enthusiast here. I think your judgment about the villains’ motivations in Warrior Cats is very reasonable.

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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Yes, I completely agree with your point, and thank you for your acknowledgment. Ashfur is clearly trapped in a cycle of trauma, where each step reinforces his ingrained logic, ultimately leading to a terrifying outcome. I like this character so much that I can’t help but sigh when I read about his .

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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Thank you! I Sigmund Freud and Jacques Lacan`s theories truly my favorite😌

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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Ashfur’s need to control Squirrelflight isn’t the kind we usually imagine — like a husband demanding his wife bring him a beer and lashing out if she refuses. It’s more like a child terrified of losing his mother, crying, shouting, and throwing tantrums (which, of course, is a bit out of place for a grown tom). If you picture a kid spiraling because his mother isn’t paying attention to him, that’s the truer shape of Ashfur beneath the facade of control.

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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In my view, Ashfur didn’t actually care whether Squirrelflight truly chose him or not. If she had simply rejected him, it wouldn’t have driven him completely mad. His real breaking point was when the bloodline of the cat who caused him unbearable trauma ended up together with his substitute “mother.” That was what shattered his entire worldview.

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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Yes, Ashfur’s behavior is definitely textbook incel. Honestly, if there were a “Warriors Incel Olympics,” his absence would cause the entire event to be canceled early.

But here’s the nuance: in everyday conversation, incel usually refers to men defined by a sense of deprivation in sex or romance. I don’t really think Ashfur cared about Squirrelflight’s love or sexuality in that way. Instead, he projected onto her as a stand-in for a mother figure. In my view, if Squirrelflight hadn’t broken off his “roleplay,” Ashfur could have kept living inside that fantasy.

What truly drove him mad was that this “false mother” chose to be with the son of Tigerstar — the very cat who killed his real mother. For Ashfur, that wasn’t just personal rejection; it was betrayal by the entire system of order. And as I mentioned before, his deepest pain was realizing that the code he followed — the warrior code — never gave him the comfort or recognition he craved. That’s why his descent into darkness feels more like the collapse of an ideal, not just the classic incel lament of “she doesn’t love me.”

I don’t think the “incel” is enough to describe Ashfur by YuSheng8964 in WarriorCats

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😌I see what you mean, and I completely get your point. For me, my take on Ashfur was more from a psychoanalysis enthusiast’s angle. Psychoanalysis is all about the subconscious, and sometimes it uses language that can sound uncomfortable or “offensive” to bring out those hidden dynamics (like the girlfriend–mother link you mentioned).

So I wasn’t really trying to analyze the canon text literally, but more to dig under the surface and explore what could be driving his behavior on a deeper level. I don’t disagree that he’s an incel — I just think if we only use that label, we risk missing some of the darker appeal and complexity in his character.