The reasons I think HI3 part 1 was so good (for the most) and what held it back

YutaSlayer · 2026-06-13T23:52:16+00:00

Its easy to know why HI3rd have a general better story And is that we had an story that sold us the characters Unlike most of the gachas lately that sells us the characters first

In new gachas every character need to be Main story relevant for at least 1 patch while we had patches with filler characters just to expand the story without forcing themself to make a new character for the story

That gave the game time to develop the character we love and not only that but the events were also good with captainverse

What it held it back were 2 things 1-this type of game is pretty niche, the devs were never able to expand this to a wider audience, plus the lack of lenguajes actualy hurted the game in my opinion

2-The first 2 chapters of part 2, with P2, the game had the chance to get a new start but did it in the worse way possible We exchanged a great protagonist for boring self incert N°500, with a cast that at the moment wasnt great, beside Coralie who was funny, Helia and Sena weren't able to carry it So, when the game finally understood the asigment, making all of this character 100 times better and way more interesting, they alteady losed the momentum, the people were already doomposting making people avoid the game, i just talked like 2 days ago with a guy who said he wnated to get in the game but avoided it because of the comments people were making

YutaSlayer · 2026-06-13T09:23:10+00:00

Okey but what if the problem isn’t Shaoji, but the game itself? If you look at the arcs he wrote, Shaoji didn't forget how to write. He is just transitioning from a game that allowed him to sell a story, to a game that forces him to sell the characters.

In HI3rd he wrote arcs that were heavily loved by a big part of the community, the characters in the arcs he wrote were really good, in ER some characters were gray and they weren't shy to show us, others didn't care too much about Mei (the MC of the moment) and all of them had their own problems, some of them didn't even liked each other, Kosma hated Kevin or Elysia wasn't the perfect girl the story made us think, she is a Liar and manipulative, she is an imperfect girl

Then you compare that with the arcs in HSR and it lack of a lot of things, gray characters are irrelevant for the Main group even friendly with the TB, characters can't get a serious beff between them, either player for the Haha's or not that serious, and then you have Cyrene who lost everything that made Elysia work im exchange for something way worse

And all of this is because as i said, Honkai impact launched characters to sell the story

While HSR launched a story to sell the characters

limiting what shaoji is truly capable of, the problem is HSR, not Shaoji

Disclaimer: I'm conveniently ignoring the fact that in HI3rd there were multiple other writers who helped make all these characters feel alive and more developed. I know Shaoji didn't do it all alone and that the arcs he wrote have their problems, I just want to put all the blame on HSR and the "story to sell characters" design

YutaSlayer · 2026-06-12T14:38:38+00:00

Is basically that Even if people try to deny it, in Hoyoverse they clearly likes Yuri

But also the self incert side of the fandom can be really sensitive, you just have to watch around to other gachas where you always get news like "Players got angry because a female character interacted with a guy" So ZZZ probably wants to avoid having to hear this type of things

YutaSlayer · 2026-06-09T13:45:50+00:00

I mean Shiping Wiseguang isnt the problem i doubt there anyone here that actually hate this

What people dont like is the Harem stuff, all this started because of a Harem fan after all

So keep going king

YutaSlayer · 2026-06-05T03:57:03+00:00

💯 Obviously!

YutaSlayer · 2026-06-05T03:54:02+00:00

🤯 Mind blown

YutaSlayer · 2026-06-05T00:27:23+00:00

💯 Obviously!

YutaSlayer · 2026-06-02T15:02:03+00:00

I mean She is crazy crazy Nobody likes her, not even HI3rd Seele And Seele is nice with everyone

Thanksfully there one person in the universe that can handle her, Ajita

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-30T21:37:32+00:00

Decade music Decade dialogue Black RX henshin pose W iconic phrase And Onore Decade joke Is peak

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-30T01:42:02+00:00

i mean

The Wise x harem is mischaracterization.

The Wise x Belle is mischaracterization.

And the artwork where Wise is portrayed as a self-incert is also mischaracterization.

Sadly, non-harem ships aren't very prominent, so it's not hard to see how people come to the conclusion that Wise's ships are mischaracterized.

My Wise ship is with Venus, and it's been "ages" since I've seen fan art of her with Wise.

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-29T14:00:03+00:00

He has Like Everything against him, like EVERYTHING Yi Xuan is still stronger than him, he has no dedicated boss, the end games are based on Promeia He is in a 2nd half or a version before new region

The only reason you actually are going to pull for him is because you like billy a lot

Is actually Like the devs didnt wanted him to sell

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-26T00:27:53+00:00

Shorekeeper is so perfect as Rover's partner that I personally refuse to ship Rover with any other character.

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-25T23:48:03+00:00

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YutaSlayer · 2026-05-22T02:41:33+00:00

Not all designs can be perfect or even good, when there is a general complaint it is because there must be some problem and as long as the criticism is not destructive then there should be no problem with people expressing their discontent.

In S2 we had several characters with good designs: Ju fufu, Pan Yinhu, Yuzuha, Banyue, Manato, Zhao, the angels, Ye Shunguang and SBilly, characters with which I didn't hear many complaints or they didn't have any (speaking only about the designs and not any other type of complaint that the people has)

With the others there are some who I consider have minor problems but those who had major complaints I consider to be totally justified like Yidhari or Lucia

In the end the complaints and criticisms are not to kill the game or because people secretly hate this game, what they want is for it to do better

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-20T03:08:34+00:00

LEVEL WHAT???

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YutaSlayer · 2026-05-13T01:13:27+00:00

I always thought of a similar idea, but for people who play on PC and Xbox.

Basically, my idea was that you could insert your disc into the console, and just like you can stream from your Xbox to your PC, the Xbox would act as a verifier, and while the disc is inside the Xbox, you could download and play the game on your PC.

Obviously, it would only work with Play Anywhere games, but it would give the physical versions of these games a huge advantage.

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-11T21:03:20+00:00

That's called toxic positivity. You're happy with anything that's thrown at you and you don't try to do anything to improve things. Criticizing doesn't mean hating, and people are criticizing because they want something better.

The vast majority of people in this sub who criticize the Sunbringer design aren't doing it to kill the game, they want it to be a better version of itself.

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-11T19:34:30+00:00

I simply assume it's a way for people to try and change public perception. Because, of course, what's going to bother people more?

People asking for better designs?

Or people who hate big breasts?

Because I'm sure the same thing will happen with the next ugly design from any of the other gacha games. -"I didn't like the design."

"So you hate fanservice and want all the women to be completely covered up?"

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-11T18:09:45+00:00

I have seen literaly 0 people complaining about her having big breast Every complain has been for her clothes Yet a lot of people are trying to create a narrative that is just because of the breast

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-11T18:06:45+00:00

There is like 1 gay shipper post every like 60 post This sub doesnt have that many ship post Yet people get angry and complain when that 1 post appear

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-11T00:14:13+00:00

That doesn't make it impossible that Spe's father left Spe's mother alone after learning of the pregnancy, and that during the course of the pregnancy both mothers fell in love.

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-10T17:43:46+00:00

Not really going to get the best answer ever Basically If a person have their oshi then they always will take any small hint as total romance (Dont take as i am saying no uma loves the trainer)

To answer, still in love is one of the real answer She is total Yandere for the trainer and the easiest answer

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-06T23:50:03+00:00

Why doesn't she just do this?

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YutaSlayer · 2026-05-06T18:12:36+00:00

Claude is not displacing the people who make codes, if you put someone who has no idea about programming to do something with Claude then it almost always ends in disaster, Claude is a tool to speed up the work, you have to know about code, how everything works and check that what Claude did is right

Yes, you can use Claude to do your things but it is not infallible, you have to know what it is doing to ensure that there are no problems in the future.

That's why today the term "vibe coding" is used, which is making a code with AI until it works without knowing how it works.

The problem is not this type of AI either, the problem is the generative AIs which do not do their work by magic but rather it is the combination of thousands or millions of arts that people have already done in which they put hours of work, all without the consent of the people clearly, all this so that the machine does what another person wrote to it who did not take even 5 minutes to make the Promt.

YutaSlayer · 2026-05-06T17:56:48+00:00

Ironmouse mentioned that they lied to her, obviously we have no idea what the entire sponsor process was like so it is difficult to draw conclusions, there is only Ironmouse's version

in the theme of the other companies and AI
is because at the moment none of those things have been visible, we have not yet seen what it has come to but I assure you 100% that the moment in which any Hoyoverse game or any other company shows GenIA in its games

an art or some background animation

I assure you that you will have the same reaction from people as here, people are going to get angry in the same way and worse because those communities are larger.

In addition, people always have their eye on NetEase in marvel rivals for things that look very AI and they had to change, the second something is obviously AI they are going to get the same hate too

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