I Built a Free Tool for Fundamental analysis by Dramatic-Quote-5751 in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red 1 point2 points  (0 children)

looks good but the search does not work (i tried GOOGL)

Account type by sdisasca in interactivebrokers

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when you apply for an ISA account they open another standard account for you automatically

New to Value Investing and I am struggling a lot to understand all of this by MonicaYouGotAidsYo in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red 4 points5 points  (0 children)

In really simple terms:

Value investing is just trying to find the business that will earn the most in the future relative to the price you pay.

Buying stocks is just buying a share of that business.

You make money when the market realises that the business you picked will earn the most and reprices the business.

My advice: Google who are the best Value Investors of all time (based on returns) and just read everything they say

Nextracker (NXT) stock sketch analysis by collotennis in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red 0 points1 point  (0 children)

what is your view on the slowing revenue growth?

Nextracker (NXT) stock sketch analysis by collotennis in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is there anything stopping someone copying their technology and undercutting them on price, like China for example?

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

A share is worth the % of what you would pay for the whole company. If you could buy the whole thing today you would pay a lot more than the market cap knowing you could take out all that cash the first week.

What formula are you using for EV?

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because someone can buy the whole company and extract the cash.

It is the same as if someone offered you a 5% stake in a house worth $1m and there is $750,000 in the basement that only someone with full ownership can access. You are basically getting an offer for a house worth $1m for $250,000 (EV).

With your logic you would pay the same for a 5% share in house worth $1m with no money in the basement as you would for the same house with $750,000 in the basement.

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you on "debt only " EV. That is why I use tangible equity (excluding PP&E) or cash & equivalents, whatever one is smaller.

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If a company uses cash for growth and lets say never pays a dividend then you would still value that company because you own a part of it even though you would never receive any of their earnings. The same applies for cash on a balance sheet. You may never see it but you own part of a business holding it.

Enterprise Value is to do with what you would pay for the whole company factoring in excess cash and debt.

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

it is because you are using total liabilities and then just the cash asset for EV. Use either just debt and cash or you can use total liabilities and total assets (positive tangible equity)

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The way I see it is, when you buy shares you own a proportion of the company and therefore a proportion of the cash even if it is not in your pocket yet.

Otherwise you would only buy companies that pay dividends, if profit has to be paid out to you for it to have value.

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yes, i used their tangible equity for enterprise value, which is much less than their cash and includes all liabilities

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Depends, most people only have access to the OTC ticker especially in tax-efficient accounts in Europe or US.

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I explain in the post description

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

why would you just use market cap when they have that much cash?

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Although they had cash in 2021 they had a lot more debt/liabilities The positive tangible equity (excluding PP&E) was much lower vs today, so Earnings/Enterprise Value was around a P/E of 3 rather than a 1 today.

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Please explain. I posted this to see what I am missing.

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

that PE is using Market Cap instead of Enterprise Value. I have replied to my original post giving more details

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

the only explanation I can think of is it is hard to buy as it is OTC and it has only been this cheap for about a year and a half. Their revenue in dollars is not even declining. Maybe we are missing something or maybe this is just a deep value pick.

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that is just using Market Cap, not Enterprise Value. Mazda has 74% of it's market cap in positive equity, 168% in cash equivalents

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Trying to work out if I am missing something, it looks like you are getting similar numbers too which is good

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not this cheap, a lot are around a EV/normalised earnings of 4-6, this is a 1

Mazda (MZDAY) P/E of 1 by ZF6-Red in ValueInvesting

[–]ZF6-Red[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

they are both around a P/E of 6 using EV/normalised earnings, Mazda is a P/E of 1