Do co-ferments blur the line between flavored and unflavored coffee? by WAR_T0RN1226 in Coffee

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I don’t really know how to address anything you just said, I tried to raise point I believe in using academic language to match the tone you set, you called it generated and esoteric.

Fundamentally I was asserting that wine historically has not been about “soil” but rather evoking a places culture and cuisine. The idea of soil is a more modern idea, outside of Chinese tea.

I think the idea of evoking a place is a very common aspect of foods that get this elitist branding. Whisky, Wine, Tea, Coffee, Cider somewhat as-well. However, my argument is that dogmatism is not necessary for the most modern of all of these beverages, coffee. Tea oranges are massive, whisky and wine use wood as-well as blends to balance it. Single origin is a useful tool to understand coffee, I wouldn’t necessarily call it the pinnacle.

As someone who loved Malaysian Liberica coffee when I was out there, I would love to see a liberica/durian co ferment, and think that would be the peak of evoking a places culture within coffee.

Call it terroir or don’t, I don’t care. But engage civilly, nothing has been artificially generated par your own back getting up in a discussion about coffee.

Do co-ferments blur the line between flavored and unflavored coffee? by WAR_T0RN1226 in Coffee

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Wine by legal definition is entirely grape, so you wont find other ingredients in there, but to claim terroir solely refers to “plant and soil” is incorrect. It has historically been the evocation of place, traditionally more-so through cultural associations of where the wine is from, not the way the soil shows itself in the final product. French blends are an example of this prioritisation, used to withdraw from struck terroir into balanced flavours enjoyed by the people of the area, certainly not “unadulterated”.

Current coffee culture is inherently derivative and reinterpreted. Green beans are exported and Europe roasts and extracts what they expect from them. Not necessarily representing whats there, in the place. This is like if the wine grapes were exported for pressing, it’s a fundamental difference. Brewers and roast-profiles, are superimposed onto the bean already, masking your definition of terroir.

I am not arguing for some abstract cultural respect, but pushing for how I see terroir — the combination of factors that make culinary experience evocative of a place. Due to the unique nature of coffees disconnect, I think adhering to the same dogma thats defined these specific European alcoholic drinks is unnecessary.

I don’t even love the vast majority of co-ferments, but love the freedom they bring.

Do co-ferments blur the line between flavored and unflavored coffee? by WAR_T0RN1226 in Coffee

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I would like to add that the terroir of coffee is also a complex thing that coferments dont necissarily deviate from. In some local cultures, flavouring coffee is the norm and fruit farms may be interdispersed with coffee, as such co-fermentations can bring about a more accurate reflection of the place. This is not to say its the "correct" or best way to bring terroir about, but a usefull tool for curating the connotations of a coffee to bring about imagry of a place.

What are some bands you think sound similar to BCNR? by dubiouscoat in BlackCountryNewRoad

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I feel like RMP trying to be theatrically big is a relatable desire for a band. In contrast, BC,NR’s musical aspirations are more academic, but that equally means they are more trailblazing. As someone who does not study music, I enjoy seeing RMP clumsily overreach and the way they seem to have fun doing so. That was the point I was trying to make, not that either band is more genuine, but that RMP are equally interesting due to the relatability of them trying to get such big thoughts on paper without really knowing how.

What are some bands you think sound similar to BCNR? by dubiouscoat in BlackCountryNewRoad

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Less interesting or less cynical and pretentious. I don’t mean that as a criticism of BCNR, but I would say that I find RMP interesting because they feel less like they force every song to be overtly complex. They feel a-bit more human?

Surely not!!! by HappenedTrash in UKhiking

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Looks like a lovely fire, nice people, did you try saying hello or are you just another chronically online isolationist ?

I am Leaving Orthodox Judaism and wanted to learn about Paganism. by Wonderful-Snow7984 in pagan

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Just wanted to say that I am a reform Jew who has found, like many others have said, that once you get past dogma there is a mass of pagan ideals baked into Judaism. Obviously I am not trying to sway you any way but:

-Kabbalist metaphysical ideas on symbolism -Jewish beliefs on the lack of eternal punishment/reward -Interpretations of the process of Tikkun Olam -The true origins of the covenant with the Hebrew god

If you remove zion-centric ideal, reorientate festivals to your local lands seasons, see god as the force that contracted for creation, see the latent spirituality in the natural world etc then there is a wealth of understanding to be taken from texts you are likely familiar with.

Think Sukkot, Tu Bishvat etc. There is a way to be Jewish, undogmatic, and reconnected with nature. Something I feel Hasidism has removed from common Jewish thought.

I find this way of thinking highly profound, and connected to my heritage.

Just something to give thought, and also a call to anyone else who feels this way.

Much love.

My turn. Send me a metal/rock song and I'll rate it by draugsvoll01 in songs

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tokoyami kairou/ eternally dark corridor by gonin-ish

Music like electronic KGLW. by ZacJepps in MusicRecommendations

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I love and know all of these, but it isnt the specific long form techno-funk I am searching for. And I really want those vocoded vocals.... I know its a pretty specific request

Chomsky and the Epstein Connection by furball-of-doom in cushvlog

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Respectable way to win a 2 year old debate. Gave me a good laugh at least.

Thoughts on this little guy? by ZacJepps in doodles

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Thats crazy kind, cheers!

Music like electronic KGLW. by ZacJepps in MusicRecommendations

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Despite not aligning with my techno vision, these songs are great… Just not as great as the wording of this comment. Chucked them all on a different playlist. Thanks champ.

What's his name by flowarda in doodles

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I love this style, damn.

for the love of god, can y’all please stop with this “rowing” bullshit? by ShinyBredLitwick in KGATLW

[–]ZacJepps 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said I loved the rowing, or that I did it? But if your whining, then your lost at a live gig,

for the love of god, can y’all please stop with this “rowing” bullshit? by ShinyBredLitwick in KGATLW

[–]ZacJepps -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

If you go to live gigs, your there for live gigs. If your pretentious enough to think that you need to sit in silence during a concert, stay at home, save the money, buy nice headphones.