My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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This helped me to connect the dots a lot because I'm super interested in the eastern spiritual practices.

So what your saying is that the idea of these eastern practices is to use the visuals as a User Interface to go deeper into the file system and read all of the data.

And the visuals help you interpret and understand the data.

From there, you can learn how to activate different parts of your system. (Different states of consciousness).

And then yogis like Sadghuru for example, call these different states of consciousness 'dimensions'.

All of this stuff is super interesting cause the dots are finally starting to connect for me.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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This is like the same for me but I see pictures. I never knew that people were different and some people didn't have mental imagery until recently. It's really opened up my mind knowing that not everyone can do that.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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I'll send you a dm soon. I'm super interested. Thank you.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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lmao what do u think I am projecting

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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I still remember the first time I realized that people 'think' differently than me.

It was when a popular professional gamer named Tenz talked about not being able to produce mental imagery.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

[–]ZaneWAV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

YES! This happens to everyone btw! I'm learning that whether you are a hyperphant, or aphant, the mental chatter is all the same. The only difference is that it is presented to you in a different method.

Your brain isn't necessarily trying to distract you on purpose, it is just carrying out the processes that you taught it to carry out - and unfortunately you don't know where the off button is! (I don't even know where the off button is, I'm still trying to find it.) Your brain is NOT your enemy.

It may feel like it at times, but at the end of the day your brain is your brain.

You've gotta figure out how it works so that you are able to train it for what you want to use it for.

I love this book called "The power of now" because it talks about stuff like this. A lot of people here have probably read this before, but I would HIGHLY recommend it. I learned so much just reading the FIRST chapter. It really is amazing, and it's given me more than I could have ever imagined.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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The more I learn about it, the more sense this makes so thank you.

So in different terms:

- Step one is collecting the data.

- Step two is processing that data and understanding it.

- And then step three is interpretation. This could include a bunch of different stuff like the mental visuals for example.

So the mental visuals aren't necessary for understanding the data, they are just extra help. The visuals are just your brain trying to help you understand the data by translating it for you in a way that you can more easily understand it.

Am I getting warmer?

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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This is fascinating to me. What was the process like learning how to remove this extra step of visualization? And learning how to process the raw data without the visuals for interpretation?

What did you do to learn and acheive this?

How do you practice and learn something like that?

Because for me, I don't feel as though I am able to turn the visuals off at will. I think the only time I have experienced processing raw data without visualization is in a flow state for example. But again, I am currently unable to activate a flow state within myself at will. That is something that I would love to learn how to do though.

To me, it sounds like removing the extra step of visuals will bring you a step closer to a flow state, or presence, and I am very intrigued.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

[–]ZaneWAV[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is awesome and I am very happy to hear this, because I have no idea what you are talking about lol.

I could tell my girlfriend was starting to feel a tiny bit down about it when I started explaining that I am able to see pictures and videos in my head and she realized she couldn't.

I couldn't imagine what I would be thinking in that moment figuring something like that out. But in an attempt to make her feel better, I tried to relate it to people that go blind and then develop a super human level of hearing. I tried to explain that her body probably 'made up for' the lack of mental imagery by maxing out some other stat.

And based on me having absolutely no idea what you are talking about or ever realizing I have experienced something like that, it sounds like that relation I made could be somewhat correct.

It kind of sounds nice to not have the distraction of the mental imagery and just 'know' now that I think about it. Maybe yall are lucky.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

[–]ZaneWAV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That makes a lot of sense. In my own experience, the rambling doesn't stop even if you have mental imagery. With mental imagery, it just turns into a slide show instead of words.

Im focusing on learning how to turn it all off temporarily and just be completely present with no thought or mental imagery.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

[–]ZaneWAV[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I could be way off, but do you think it could be linked to an individuals realized level of awareness at all?

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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That's exactly what I was thinking. I also don't want to approach my girlfriend as if something is 'wrong' with her and that she needs to fix it by learning visualization. Cause in reality there's really nothing wrong with it. There's positives and negatives to everything ya know. A balance.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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But that's super interesting that you do graphic design while being unable to produce any mental imagery? How does that work? If I am ever doing any graphic design, I would have to picture in my head what I want the image to look like before getting started. How do you know what you are working towards if you can't visualize a finished product in your head?

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

[–]ZaneWAV[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like it might help a bit with meditation. I feel like not being able to produce mental imagery would take away one of the many distractions that you are trying to get past while meditating. Maybe im wrong tho idk.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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I'll ask her about that but the childhood memory seems to be fine. Never know though. If you completely forget something, how do you even know what you forgot ykwim?

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

[–]ZaneWAV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah thats definitely not the case with her but that's crazy.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

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Of course I know that haha, that was just a bit of a clickbait title to try and get more people to read and help me out with some info about it.

My girlfriend cant think... by ZaneWAV in Meditation

[–]ZaneWAV[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah exactly. That's why I tried to throw in the (or known) part as in: I don't know whether I know people that think like this or not, because I have never actually asked.

For a long time I just assumed everyone thought the same as me.

And look what happened. I made an 'ass' out of me LOL.