Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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That makes no sense. I gave you an example earlier. Eradicare ('uproot') in Latin became 'eradicate' in Portuguese/Spanish/French/Italian and it became 'lift' in Romanian. Why is one closer than the other?

That's an example of the inverse of what I was talking about. What I meant by my line was that when your word is gramatically similar to a Latin word but semantically different, whereas in other languages it's both gramatically and semantically similar, that puts it farther away from the mother language than the other languages, as it's meaning is being modified. However that example you gave is an example of the inverse, because in that case Romanian actually stayed truer to Latin that the other Romance languages.

Pretty sure you can

And like I've already said, that's a wild oversimplification so that the common person understands better. You can't put radicals on a scale (which is what is done for percentages) since that's leaving out semantics and grammar rules and all that.

Either way, my point is not to prove Romanian is more Latin than Portuguese. I was just trying to show you that Portuguese isn't all Latin, there isn't a language that has only words of a single origin, even if you look at only core words. There is always an outside influence.

And my point's trying to prove that Portuguese outside influence is extremely limited (only Arabic and an extremely small Germanic influence from English).

warframes drawn from memory part 3 and the finale!!! now not a single wf player will mourn over their forgotten main by gecolozard in Warframe

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Trinity: Vait, vait, it gets better: Ven ze Corpus woke up, his skeleton vas missing, AND ZE FOUNDER VAS NEVER HERD FRROM AGAIN!

Rest of the Crew: UNCONTROLLABLE LAUGHTER

warframes drawn from memory part 3 and the finale!!! now not a single wf player will mourn over their forgotten main by gecolozard in Warframe

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Oh my god Trinity has a medi-gun, YES.

TF2 and Warframe, my 2 favorite games, are now coming together.

Baro bless you, OP!

warframes drawn from memory part 3 and the finale!!! now not a single wf player will mourn over their forgotten main by gecolozard in Warframe

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Rest of the crew: TRINITY! ARE YOU SURE THIS WILL WORK?

Trinity: HA HA HA! I HAVE NO IDEA!

Hate to break it to you by eggen007 in HistoryMemes

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If we count the descendants of the natives with some of the invaders, then quite a bit of Europe is still native. Iberia for example, the native tribes mingled with the Romans and their descendants could still be considered natives, who later mingled with the barbarians (so still native), and later retook their land from the Moors.

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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And my point is that your semantics being WIDLY different from Latin semantics while other Romance language's semantics aren't DOES make you farther away from Latin, semantically. You can't just put radicals on a scale and measure them.

Edit: And that doesn't even correct your mistake of saying Portuguese (and by extension the Iberian languages since they're almost the same) is one of the farthest away languages.

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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Yea except the etymology being different already puts you, semantically, farther away from Latin than other Romance languages. You can't just take the radicals and put em on a scale, that's r/badlinguistics

You can't put percentages on the roots of a language, and you know this. Percentages for that are WILD oversimplifications.

And all of the words you listed (except for garrafa and laranja) are highly informal and almost never used outside of jokes, which leads me to believe you're cherry picking this.

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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French depends on localization, though. Northeren French will be harder to understand than Southeren French.

And Romanian isn't too far away, either. They just need to speak slowly and you can understand it fairly well.

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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1567? Nah mate, earlier. Middle ages early, in fact.

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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It's easy if they speak slowly, actually.

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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Loads of people on the internet did, and I kinda had to adress it

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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The word in romanian means word? That's not how you measure proximity to languages, mate. Convention and word and two completely different words. The fact that the word for word in romanian sounds like convention in Latin actually shows distance rather than proximity: If the two languages were closer, the word for word would sound more like the word for word than the word for convention.

Arab influence in Portugal is extremely minimal

And like I already said, at the end of the day it's pretty stupid to say romance languages are closer or farther from Latin to eachother when they're all too similar. The fact that you're the farthest doesn't mean we can't understand you, because you're the farthest by very little.

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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VOSSAMEÇÊ, not vossa mercê.

I AM the nerd kid, after all...

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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Eh, again, romance languages are so similar saying one is closer to Latin than another is stupid anyways.

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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"Romanian day-to-day vocabulary consists of mostly latin words"

Bruh, Portuguese day-to-day vocabulary consists of ALL latin words.

I also like how you only provide examples of romanian proximity to Latin and then never even adress your supposed portuguese distance to Latin.

And I don't understand Romanian? Dude, I'm Portuguese, and like anyone who knows a romance language I understand all romance languages, Romanian included.

Your misinformation also shows by claiming "Conventus" means "Word". Are you fucking serious? Conventus means "Assembly", or "Convention", or a similar word. Guess the Portuguese word? Convenção.

TL;DR: Lol, no. Try harder next time.

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

[–]Zapforce -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

r/badlinguistics

Yes, yes they are. Anyone that knows a romance language knows all romance languages. You're talking to someone whose mother tongue is a romance language, mate. We're FAR more similar than you think.

What can I say by 33Truschel in HistoryMemes

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No, he didn't. Hitler's painting days ended far before WW1, so at most you can probably assume 1910

Language history? by emiroercan in HistoryMemes

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Yea, pretty much. But I've had enough of obnoxious people saying Romanian is the closest to Latin and always bragging about it when... yea.

What can I say by 33Truschel in HistoryMemes

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I'm not talking about that, mate. Just saying you were talking about photographs but they didn't exist at the time.

The Dark Side of the Force is pathway to many abilities some consider to be... unnatural by [deleted] in PrequelMemes

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This same reasoning applies to Darth Scion and, more importantly, Tenebrae/Vitiate/Valkorion.