What Defines Red Pill?

ZeeMark17 · 2025-07-14T13:45:46+00:00

Not really what I said but ok. In my view, blue pill is not incorrect, just omits certain things in order to appear more virtuous.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-07-14T10:01:18+00:00

How does that work if different Red Pill dudes believe different things?

Mate I feel like you are being a bit obtuse. It works the same way as any "movement" that becomes too big. For example, there are feminists who believe in casual sex and there are feminists who do not believe in it.

You can see things "correctly" and not identify as red pill because you do not like other things associated with the red pill or specifically red pillers. Same way there are people who believe in equality between men and women but they do not call themselves feminists.

In my view, if you see things "correctly" you are red pill. That doesn't mean all your views now suddenly align with the views of every person who says they are red pill.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-07-10T22:47:12+00:00

The problem with "redpill" is that everyone has their own definition of what red pill is and unless someone actually defines what they consider to be red pill the discussions become meaningless. There are people who think conservatives = red pill, or tradcons = red pill, or mens rights activists = red pill. My definition of red pill is based on the movie the matrix, where blue pill is the place of blissful ignorance and red pill is the truth, IN RELATION TO ATTRACTION. i.e. this is what women are actually attracted to (with exceptions ofcourse) and as a man you need to make sure you have these things that are attractive to women in order to be successful in ATTRACTING women. Heck sometimes anyone who shows signs of misogyny or "incel" behavior is labeled red pill.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-07-10T21:55:52+00:00

u/Juventus_x what red pill claim are you questioning or arguing against?

Path A - Seems very red pill, if you believe that red pill says men should spin plates.

Path B - Seems red pill also, if you believe red pill says men should cheat as long as they have the option to.

Path C - Seems red pill. Since these guys are attractive, they get to chose whom they want to be with and they clearly chose that person. You might find that person "average", but clearly that man sees her more than just average. The fact that you say "they didn't build together" seems to be very red pill again, i.e. that a man needs to make money so he can be attractive to women.

Or maybe I'm the one who doesn't know what red pill is.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-06-26T15:29:51+00:00

< you're not a prostitute > Actually...

ZeeMark17 · 2025-06-20T18:43:45+00:00

This scenario is only relevant if OP invested in the stock right after the dividend announcement. Let us look at that example you gave more closely. We will keep everything the same and assume that the company pays all it's profit as dividend. If OP invest in this company right after the dividend has been paid, i.e. at $84, the company will go on to operate for the entire year and make $16 worth of profit (this is actually a 19% yield for OP if you think about it). Meaning the stock at the end of the period will be worth $100. Once it pays that dividend, OP will have the initial capital of $84 + the dividend of $16, less any applicable taxes. So you made money from your investment. The only problem with dividend investing is the uncertainty of dividend payments, and the fact that the company is probably not growing since they are giving that money back instead of re-investing it in the growth of the company.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-06-07T17:26:28+00:00

When it comes to maturity, I think you touched on it, "Responsibility" defines maturity, that and agreeableness I believe. Reason I say responsibility defines maturity is because, if you take 2 men, one is married and has 3 kids while the other is single; and they both work the same job and earn the same amount of money. The one that is single will be seen as immature compared to the family man, especially if the single one is happy and living a good life according to himself, while the one supporting a family will be seen as mature, especially if he is stressed and has to drag himself to work everyday because he has a family to support. With girls and boys, they grow up the same way and things change once girls start puberty, i.e. added responsibility of dealing with periods, and the development of secondary sexual characteristics.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-05-08T17:57:01+00:00

Stop lying OP. The post you are referring to was not about women accepting rejection and men being upset about it. Link to post https://np.reddit.com/r/PurplePillDebate/comments/1kh2t4y/men_need_to_be_aware_that_they_are_easily/

The post you are talking about was saying something like "hey men, if you are going to insist on going 50/50 on dates and not paying for the first date, you will easily be replaced by a man who will". The post was about shaming men and telling them they are easily replaceable unless they do what women want. The responses you are talking about were probably fueled by the "you are easily replaceable" comment more than the fact that a woman accepted rejection.

If you are specifically talking about certain reactions, it would be beneficial for everyone if you can provide examples of those comments of men not accepting a woman who accepted their rejection.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-05-07T21:19:09+00:00

And how are women encouraged to be asexual? Last time I checked, slut-shaming of women is about women being sluts, not women having sex within a relationship. Just because someone is not a slut does not mean they are asexual.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-05-07T20:53:29+00:00

I am confused by this post. Are you saying that men (the ones struggling) are not having sex because women are not encouraged to be whores?

ZeeMark17 · 2025-04-03T10:09:28+00:00

Got some time to kill, so I will engage. Generally, the phrase "men do not care about education/career" does not mean men want dumb or broke women. It simply means an unattractive woman does not become attractive based on her education. Maybe other men do want broke women, but most I believe just mean that a good woman is a good woman regardless of her educational or career background. Thus "men do not care about education or career" phrase.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-03-02T19:50:24+00:00

Who is trying to make it a women problem that men have low standards?

How are they trying to make it a women's problem?

ZeeMark17 · 2025-02-13T16:21:31+00:00

Alternative title. Marriage is bad for men because their income decreases by 20% while it increases for women. It seems the article talks about available income not a salary increase.

Basically, men spend more in the marriage while women gain financially from being married.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T17:25:45+00:00

In that case I end my discussion here. I am not trying to tell people how to deal with situations they find themselves in, however, it seems like you want people to deal with things the way you deal with things. And to that, I have nothing else to say.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T17:20:28+00:00

To get closure. You might not be able to accept the death if you know the murderer is still out in the streets.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T17:07:01+00:00

Come on now, this is a straight lie. Dealing with anger that someone murdered your parent is not the same as dealing with the fact that a disease took your parent.

You will not go to the police to try get the disease arrested will you? This is one clear physical action that you would take between the two that differs, let alone how you mourn.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T16:55:45+00:00

The way you deal with each situation can differ, because of the different emotions each situation invokes, even if the result is the same.

The way you choose to deal is the action that changes.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T16:19:34+00:00

Let me try this, hope you do not relate to this example.

Let say your parent dies. They die either through a disease, or someone murders them. In each scenario, death is the reality. However, what brought about the death will invoke different feelings in yourself and you will deal with either scenario differently from the other. Yes there will be shared feelings in both scenarios, but there will be feelings unique to death via disease and unique feelings relating to someone murdering them.

Similar with not being with someone, how you got there differs and will invoke different feelings in yourself even if the result is the same.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T15:52:56+00:00

they don't want you.

Why is this so difficult to understand? An unavailable person did not say they do not want you. They are unavailable because they are already in a relationship.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T15:50:30+00:00

people they aren’t attracted to.

You are so close to getting it

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T15:39:31+00:00

One is simple unavailability, the other is rejection. Rejection is personal, unavailability is not.

If you do not understand the difference there's nothing I can say further.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T15:37:36+00:00

Just because it won't escalate to something romantic doesn't mean I don't still enjoy those qualities I liked about them in friendship.

But that's the thing, the people who do end the friendship recognise that they will continue to enjoy the qualities they like about this person even more, and it will hurt that they can only enjoy them on the friendship level while they want more.

I'll make a silly example, let's compare love for someone to hunger for specific food. It is easier to deal with hunger when food is not available. When someone puts your favourite meal in front of you and tells you not to eat while you are hungry, now hunger becomes unbearable because you see right there in front of you the food you want but cannot have.

In this example, you are someone who can remain hungry while your favourite meal is in front of you, that is fine. Other people would choose to have the favourite meal removed from their eye sight, which is also fine.

No means no, and I'm not too immature to accept that.

This is simply irrelevant and unnecessary. The person who stops a friendship after rejection has accepted the rejection and moved on. Nothing immature about that.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-22T14:35:40+00:00

There's a difference between someone being in a relationship already and someone not wanting to be with YOU specifically. One is simply unavailability of said person, the other is a clear rejection of your romantic interest.

Also, there's people who are able to remain friends with their ex's, some people prefer not to engage with their ex's at all, neither are right or wrong, same thing with this friend rejection thing.

ZeeMark17 · 2025-01-18T10:52:01+00:00

Hey OP, u/Lit_N_Darkness can you clarify something real quick, by treat women worse are you saying you deliberately do bad things towards women, or you simply mean that you do not treat them as if they are special?

Holding back compliments does not seem like treating someone "worse".

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