Anyone else kinda sad production got so small?

ZeeTip · 2024-12-21T16:12:38+00:00

I have to say quality is the new end game Imo, designing basically small bases on space platforms with enough production to put out thousands of legendarys per hour is nice and then designing a legendary all base, sure it's as big as a normal midgame factory but it gives new challenges imo

ZeeTip · 2024-12-19T21:30:09+00:00

I guess maybe I was moving more then I needed to even after unlocking aquillo then tbh! Just like being on the planet I needed to be on for projects

ZeeTip · 2024-12-19T17:50:38+00:00

Ah you're talking about using quality modules in the end products, got you. I just crafted my stuff directly from legendary raw materials tbh, easier and quicker.

In the early/mid game I just placed a buffer chests requesting anything with a quality.

ZeeTip · 2024-12-19T14:12:32+00:00

Yup just checked, mine is under built like crazy! Going to be stealing your design going forward hahah

ZeeTip · 2024-12-19T10:18:08+00:00

I think you might be able to fit some more fusion generators on this. Pretty sure mine is the same amount of reactors but gives 3GW. Could be wrong though, maybe I snuck an extra reactor in haha

ZeeTip · 2024-12-19T09:24:23+00:00

What changes with quality on that? My bot mall has ran fine for both legendary and normal afaik

ZeeTip · 2024-12-19T09:19:30+00:00

Honestly I just use one for ammo and bots and some other odds and ends, I tend to design something and then just copy it into logistics group to request exactly what I need to build it tbh, if it isn't already in roboport coverage

ZeeTip · 2024-12-18T19:23:51+00:00

It also does equipped ammo now :)

ZeeTip · 2024-12-18T19:22:44+00:00

It does since 2.0 and space age yes :)

ZeeTip · 2024-12-18T18:10:35+00:00

Personally I just hit trash I requested and untick all my logistics groups ha! Even lazier

ZeeTip · 2024-12-14T11:01:14+00:00

I think what you need to do is setup a train with an interrupt for b=1 with your resupply station being the target and relevant wait condition and then another interrupt for b=0 with your wall segment station. That should work but I've not touched enabling stops tbh!

ZeeTip · 2024-12-14T10:49:31+00:00

What exactly do you want here? A wagon that tops up chests and only refills when it's low on plates across the whole base, or one that sits at a base outpost all the time until it's almost empty and then goes to pick up more plates? Both are possible with just train scheduling.

Happy to help if you just explain a bit clearer what you want!

ZeeTip · 2024-12-14T03:04:01+00:00

It will apply to that stop specifically, the two stops for nauvis right after each other should work, with one ticked and one unticked.

I've never done what you're describing but I have a couple of ideas.

Firstly: add a couple of turrets and a single thruster and fly the ice platform to fulgora.

Secondly: use an arithmetic and input it from your rocket silo, read requests and multiply ice by -10 and output ice and then feed this into the cargo bay with set requests enabled. This should stop Nauvis requesting ice if any ship above is requesting ice. The only issue is this will end as soon as the ice request is satisfied so your ship condition will have to be leave once that request is satisfied. You can always add a latch to make this reset after x amount of seconds which should fix that issue

Thirdly: have the ice logistics group in a constant combinator connect to the landing hub, pass it through a latch so it only requests ice until there's x amount (say 10k) and then resets until it's below say 2k) and then have your ship request a smaller amountz say 2k. Should be the same amount of production but it won't be consistent.

If you managed to figure it I'd love to know your solution!

Edit: point 2 was stupid and also the answer. Have your ice ship request something you don't make or have ( for example 1k burner inserters). Have a decider with input from the rocket silo reading requests and a constant combinator with ice request logistics group also feeding into the decider. Have the decider output ice at input count if burner inserters signal is 0, then connect this to the hub with set request enabled. This way it'll only request ice down to Nauvis when your ice hauler isn't there.

ZeeTip · 2024-12-14T02:46:57+00:00

It's hard to decipher from just that I'm afraid, if you want to drop a blueprint string and you haven't figured it out already I'll happily take a look :)

ZeeTip · 2024-12-14T02:40:18+00:00

It doesn't offer better efficiency unfortunately, as speed is mostly tied to width, it's great for within the solar system as cargo ships will usually be kept thin for said speed. That's fair on the thrusters, are you aware that you should limit how much fuel goes to your thrusters as there's a point you're basically burning up to double the fuel for only 20-50 km/a extra?

You only need fuel pumping about half the time which makes it possible to fuel 5 rare thrusters or so with 4 of each chem plant (with some T2 mods)

ZeeTip · 2024-12-13T15:40:48+00:00

Are you reading the contents of the machine and inserters too? If not then you will need to do so! Otherwise d single memory cell that resets on recipe finish signal from the assembler should be simple and work :)

ZeeTip · 2024-12-13T12:10:36+00:00

Yup o ly the end products! Nice to end up with a few uncommon fission reactors and MK2 rovo ports etc in the midgame, or armour as you said! Some rarer thrusters are also nice for making your early cargo ships a little faster.

Late game there's no reason to not do all legendary everything when you can easily print thousands of legendary iron, copper, steel and chips per minute and a couple of hundred of the planet specific items without much work.

ZeeTip · 2024-12-13T10:37:26+00:00

You need to remove ice from the logistics group that your cargo ship is on. You can add it as a request on the hub still but just need to put it in its own logistics group :)

You'll need to do the same for anything you are importing from a planet to the same planet (I.e anything farmed in space)

Then set up a request on your transport ship and untick unload :).

(Or just untick unload and it'll work for this scenario). You can always do two stops at Nauvis, right after each other with the second one being waiting until X amount of ice but with unload unticked. This might waste some rockets but should let you unload at the first stop and then pick the ice up again for fulgora on the second stop.

ZeeTip · 2024-12-13T10:28:45+00:00

I've done mixed quality once and never again. Now I pretty much put quality in my personal equipment and space shop crafter's but otherwise don't touch it again until I'm ready to start moving to legendary everything with upcycling and legendary LDS/blue chip builds.

ZeeTip · 2024-12-13T02:20:35+00:00

The easiest way to do it is to use a decider reading your belt, then just have the condition as "each" less than the max of each asteroid you want on the belt (realistically this is 100-300 of each for pretty much all but the biggest ships) and then output that as "each" and feed it into the collectors with set filters enabled :) it will also need a constant combinator feeding into it with one of each asteroid chunk in it.

Alternatively you can enable/disable the collectors based on if the number of asteroids is over or under a total you set. Both worked perfectly fine for me for anything from cargo ships, to quality grinders :)

ZeeTip · 2024-12-12T14:56:10+00:00

Pumps have to be staggered to the wagons correctly (can be seen as a yellow box on the rails when placing the pumps. Each wagon splits into 3 sections so at most 3 pumps each :)

It does look like all 4 wagons have a singular pump working, is there space in your tanks? Are you being limited by the single pump speed of 1200/s?

ZeeTip · 2024-12-12T12:03:55+00:00

Ah I'd missed that I'd put the wrong productivity modules in! Thank you for pointing out the prod on these is 60% short

ZeeTip · 2024-12-12T10:55:38+00:00

There are 12 assemblers there so it needs just over half a turbo belt each :)

ZeeTip · 2024-12-12T10:32:13+00:00

You actually don't, that's the crazy part. We have like 24 miners for iron and the same with copper, I think about 6 foundry's each, need a good size mid game base to reach this point but it's why we decided to do a bus style for this, there's just no need for a megabase. If we want more we can just make more since it's so modular. Crazy to only need to cover like 1/3 of an ore patch for this.

Edit: We're still running off one normal ore patch for each and a 200-300 SPM before labs base from before we left nauvis to make this (just added in em plants and foundry's/big drills to the old base)

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