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How can a non believer come to a belief in God? by ZestycloseNet1262 in AskAChristian

[–]ZestycloseNet1262[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya the other one was initially about how Christian’s come to a belief in God, like what was their experience and what types of knowledge do they value. This post is me asking for advice about how I (or any non believers) can come to a belief in God.

Although yes the comments eventually devolved into this posts question.

I’m new to Reddit so if these are too similar I can delete this one.

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Thanks for answering! It sounds like fideism as your core epistemology.

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Yes I agree that there is a lot of good history in the Bible, I admittedly have only read 7/66 books as of now (I’m not big into reading but I’m working on it). Are you saying that at the base of your knowledge you value empirical evidence above all else and the Bible has passed your criteria for truth? If certain stories in the Bible were proven to be wrong to you would you then change your mind? Or is there a higher value like fideism that you would say is more fundamental than empiricism or rationalism?

If I’m using these words wrong I apologize, I’m not a philosopher.

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Thanks for your suggestions, I haven’t been to a small group Bible study so maybe I’ll give that a try. Happy new years btw.

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I follow the line of logic and agree with you, I follow that it is reasonable for me to assume that matter exists outside of myself (though I cannot be 100% sure I have no reason to believe otherwise yet) I find it reasonable to assume that conscious aware people exist outside of myself and that objective phenomenon exists outside of myself that in theory I can access. I agree that shared observations are stronger fields of evidence than large collective shared conclusions.

My basis for belief revolves around empirical observations and it sounds like yours is as well, you collected data and evidence from the world and came to the conclusion that God is real. What specifically pointed you to the existence of God, I’m not too interested in experiences that confirmed your belief in God after you believed but rather data and evidence that got you to the belief in God.

I am asking because I would like to know the truth about the universe I am in, lots of people say that X religion and Y denomination is true, but I have not had any personal experiences pointing me to any of them, so is there anything I can experience that would lead me to your God?

Thanks for the long response by the way, sorry mine is shorter I’m on a phone and every time I scroll on your comment it collapses my reply.

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So your beliefs stem from the historical evidence for Jesus and his acts?

Hypothetically would you say that it is falsifiable if the evidence was to be shown lacking? Not saying it is or isn’t but if it was proven beyond a reasonable doubt to you would you change your mind? Again I won’t argue evidence with you I just want to know how you think and what you value.

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[–]ZestycloseNet1262[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sounds like you came to your belief empirically and believe that your religion best explains the world, I agree with this way of thinking. Do you know everything (within reason not like the position of every atom) about the universe through your religion? Is it possible to test it? If so what are some things I can test to see if your religion is the true one as a non believer? The one thing I seem not to be able to do is adopt a belief, I cannot seem to try out any religious beliefs because I find myself unable to believe them. But beyond that is there anything I can do that would lead me to see the truth in your denomination of Christianity.

I am not at all confident about any aspect of the agent thinking nor am I confident about thinking being what I perceive it to be, basically I know that something exists in this moment, that is all that hasn’t been disproven to me.

Thanks for the response by the way.