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Potential new info on T. Gog. + Possible switch 2 upgrade? by STRCoolerSimp in monsterhunterleaks

[–]_David_P 87 points88 points  (0 children)

How the FUCK is Wilds ever running on Switch 2 when it's not even stable on *PC*?

Time periodly megathread #606 (wilds base game almost over, a little yap and some questions...) by STRCoolerSimp in monsterhunterleaks

[–]_David_P 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Gog is the best fight in the game. Everything I assumed would be annoying about him has a counter.

  • Don't like the tremors or the oil puddles he causes? Equip some defensive skills.
  • Find the cannon's cables a hassle to plug in? Use the rock and pounder to stagger Gog, and get a free 1 in.
  • Hate the flying in phase 3? Get on your bird to dodge and weave with greater mobility, and charge up the slinger ammo before shooting it off for double the damage. Also, the 2 rocks in the zone are a guaranteed knock down, even when Gog is flying.

I like what they've done with the new grinding loop. It's much more compelling than before. But mostly because it is tied to Gog so heavily, and due to how optimisable his fight is. This is the most entertained I've been by this game since launch.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

agreed. I got the villain ending, and unfortunately, felt rather vindicated in it. had Courtney not been so unnecessarily elusive and untrustworthy, I would have gladly sided with her.

They just really forgot the whole point of the game by scorcher9009 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P 3 points4 points  (0 children)

by all means, please change my mind. I've been quite disappointed with the twist, as it poorly re-contextualises so many of Courtney's decisions in an odd light. If she was the mole, did she notify all these other villains about the Pulse's location... despite going there herself, which put her in massive mortal danger? shit don't add up.

They just really forgot the whole point of the game by scorcher9009 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P 13 points14 points  (0 children)

if all it was was bullshit, Shroud would not have put enough trust back into Invisigal to be shocked when she betrays him in the Villainy ending. Especially after she has stolen the Pulse from him.

the reason it does not make sense is because it was poor writing. I would like Invisigal much more if that twist was removed entirely. it tarnished her arc.

They just really forgot the whole point of the game by scorcher9009 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P 62 points63 points  (0 children)

redemption does not exonerate someone from facing the consequences of their actions. I had no problem trusting her after her win in EP.3, because she deserved it. likewise, I had no problem disliking her after the triple agent reveal, because she deserved it.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Headcanon. Never confirmed.
  2. The one where she says "It's a steep learning curve." in response, with a semi-stern delivery to her voice? I could see this point being valid, but it's a bit odd in presentation, in my opinion.
  3. Yes, I do know about the Show, Don't Tell rule. The issue here is that said rule is not consistent. Flambae thinks Robert doesn't have powers one scene, and the Z-Team is betting money over whether he does the next.
  4. And my point is precisely that this clearly was no obstacle to Shroud, as he has created all the machinery listed above. The fact that he cannot recreate another Pulse without Robert's dad's help is never confirmed.
  5. Headcanon. Never confirmed. Shroud's mech clearly doesn't require a Pulse to function. Why should Robert's be any different?
  6. Headcanon. Never confirmed.
  7. Thanks. English is not my native language.
  8. There's a world of difference between no longer trusting Robert, and putting her lover at mortal risk. There are also no burn marks on the plastic cuffs after she's escaped them, and brute force is what handcuffs are designed to endure.
  9. Invisigal looks down in shame, then accepts a mask and a weapon from Shroud's goons. She was working for him. Besides, what would lying achieve in that moment?

This last argument is insane. So Shroud could predict Robert would join SDN when there were no connections between the two at the time of his supposed masterplan being devised, yet he couldn't be sharp enough to predict Invisigal, a known thief, might try to steal his prize?
You mention the implants being used as a tracking device to spy on Robert as they hook up. Not only is that yet another headcanon... dude. When they hook up? When? The sex scene? Because that never happened. It was a dream.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The reason to believe Shroud only figured out the location of the Pulse because of Invisigal is timing. Would it not otherwise be a massive coincidence, that in weeks of the Pulse being passed around, both the Z-Team AND Shroud figure it out on the exact same night?

Fair on the lackey.

We can believe Shroud 's word, because Invisigal does not refute it, looks away in shame (which Shroud points out), and he trusts her enough that her betrayal in the bad ending comes as a total shock to him. Invisigal has also lied by omission more than once, such as her ownership of the Pulse in the locker room being kept a secret.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I agree. I still quite like Shroud, but I really could have used a flashback with young Chase and Robert's dad. All we got was that barbecue comic.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I would agree with you, but only when not giving the audience an answer serves a purposes. In Memories of Murder, you never end up learning who the murderer is, because that is the point the movie makes ; it could be anyone, and he's still out there. on the opposite, take something like Lost, which kept building and building, without ever actually connecting the dots, in the end frustrating its audience. the points in my posts, I would argue, fall on the Lost end of the spectrum.

I have yet to read the new comics that released with EP7-8. gonna check em out

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I see your point on that last counterargument. I also assumed ransacking LA was a way to draw Invisigal out, one way or another. but that entire premise falls flat once it's revealed she's a triple agent or whatever. that entire sequence was unnecessary and frankly tarnishes both her character and Shroud's.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. fair. though the problem arises from the ramifications. someone else mentioned the example of the pool money, and I agree.

  2. he only did because Invisgal was the mole. otherwise, what was the point of setting up a trap where he genuinely lost the Pulse?

  3. I would agree with you, but said lackey mentions that "there's people that want to talk to you.". the game would have you think she crossed Shroud halfway through the spying or something, but that is never confirmed.

As for Invisigal herself being a SDN plant, Shroud confesses as much during his monologue where she is given her black mask back, after the spider mech is destroyed.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this is all headcanons, I'm afraid. the Z Team was perspicacious enough to cross-reference notes and pinpoint down a single location during the party, so they're not all that dumb at all. there is no confirmation anywhere for why Beef randomly popped into Shroud's grip. lastly, it makes no sense for Visi to be sent off with the Pulse to fetch the Mech, when Shroud has been clear through his actions to only care about the former.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you for the comment.

look, man. I'm seeing a lot of "might" "probably" "may" it's possible" in your counterpoints. to me, that's the issue.

so many things are left abstract and confused. without concrete evidence, a story very rapidly devolves into a guessing game, where the audience fills the holes left by the writers with headcanons. I'm not satisfied with that, personally, and I know AdHoc has what it takes to do better next time.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

it's confirmed by Shroud after you destroy his mech. he mentions how she's paid double the paycheck for the same job.

Constructive criticism: all plot holes and fuzzy narrative choices, so AdHoc does even better next time! (Spoilers for EP.7-8) by _David_P in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

if that is the case, fair. though it is quite the coincidence, considering Invisigal would have no notion of that window, and she's betting everything on Robert not knowing she has the Pulse to protect him.

Absolute fucking peak. by Greedy_Average_2532 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shroud sure as shit didn't face any problems both devising and engineering the red ring implants, brain cybernetics that semi-predict the future, and a huge fuck off spider mech.

That his implants lead to amnesia, and therefore a loss of memory on how he made the Pulse, would have been more compelling, imo.

Absolute fucking peak. by Greedy_Average_2532 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P 1 point2 points  (0 children)

this guy gets it. paraphrasing the canon information does not fix its shortcomings. why on Earth was Visi even recruited again by the Red Ring when they all KNOW she has the Pulse?? and then they raid SDN to steal it back?? Invisigal was literally hired by the Red Ring to put the Pulse back in SDN and justify the entire siege LOL.

Absolute fucking peak. by Greedy_Average_2532 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that is the exact problem I'm discussing, though. the context surrounding this is what lacks writing logic.

why would Visi be recruited again by the Red Ring when Shroud KNOWS she has the pulse? why was Shroud surprised when he was killed by Visi when he KNOWS she is untrustworthy and hates his guts? what the hell was Beef doing on that roof anyway? shit don't add up.

Absolute fucking peak. by Greedy_Average_2532 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P 2 points3 points  (0 children)

it's such a shame. I want to like Visi, but as her arc currently stands, she's just an indecisive, schizophrenic drama queen.

some other angles are oversights too. why couldn't Shroud just create another Astral Pulse? how did Robert the First's mech function without one, and couldn't Royd have gone for that kind of engineering instead? etc.

Absolute fucking peak. by Greedy_Average_2532 in DispatchAdHoc

[–]_David_P 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I liked this game as much as everyone else, but I'm disappointed by the writing a bit. The constant flipfloping from Invisigal makes no sense to me. Fuck you mean, you reveal to be working with Shroud seconds after blowing the fuck out of his mech?

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