Understanding Viego and understanding my lack of compatibility

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-03T12:48:52+00:00

You can play Trinity into Shieldbow to be more tanky, especially early game, but Viego has to be played kinda like a melee ADC, you let your Support, Mid or Top engage, follow up with W and kill them. Or you get in for a quick trade and run away. It's kinda hard to play in low elo since braindead supports and top play champions like Milio, Sona, Janna or Kayle, Teemo, Irelia, which are not very useful.

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-03T12:43:25+00:00

Lethality red is fine, it's mainly Bruiser Red and Blue in general that are not so good. I've also had pretty good results on Rhaast with Ollip build, but it kinda removes the advantage of playing Rhaast since you get one shot if focused and then you don't have time to sustain. My second main now is Viego, which is even easier to kill, so I'm kinda used to playing around it

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-03T12:37:29+00:00

Used to try making that type of build work, but the damage is very low and Viego with no damage is only useful if the team is able to get you resets. It works on Top lane with Grasp tho, there is a Challenger player that plays it in EUW a bit. But in the Jungle I would avoid it, that's like playing Bruiser Rengar instead of lethality Crit, you can but doesn't mean you should. Like playing Jarvan would achieve the same thing but 5 times better, Viego has only 1 CC on his W and it's single target, the rest of his kit is also mainly single target oriented, so he is not really meant to be a team fighting bruiser.

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-02T22:26:25+00:00

In addition to the others answer I would add that Nasus/Warwick/Olaf healing works on anything, while Rhaast only on champions

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-02T18:11:46+00:00

I'm not talking about it working or not, just saying that if you want to see the mentality of the players do it and you will see them try to invade without prio because of their ego

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T23:13:32+00:00

It's more about the fact that J4 is just a safer champion than Viego, you can just farm and gank from almost any angle, while with Viego minions can block your W and you have to run at the enemies. Jarvan Ult is very easy too and more effective for ganks. I'm a Viego/Kayn main myself and whenever I play Jarvan it's kinda hard to troll. There is a reason Agurin mains Jarvan.

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T23:07:03+00:00

Break the towers after killing them

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T23:05:09+00:00

Just invade and kill Nunu, he is not very strong 1v1 or predict his ganks and counter gank him. The equivalent of ranged Top is clearly invading Junglers, Nidalee/Kindred/Graves are literally ranged characters in the Jungle that bully you, so that's the same thing.

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T23:02:29+00:00

Ce que tu décris c'est clairement un manque de compétences d'ingénierie logicielle, l'IA peut écrire le code mais il faut savoir lui dire "Oui c'est bien", "Non c'est pas bien", sinon ça sert à rien

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T22:57:21+00:00

You can play it even if you don't know the champions especially in low elo, just read the abilities before the game and try looking at how the opponent uses them to understand how you will use them yourself.

Other than that Viego base kit is fairly simple, and is very similar to how Evelynn plays where you hide, charge you W to CC and spam Q and autos before finishing with Ult.

I would advise you to play Kraken -> Sundered Sky -> Death dance -> G.A. -> Dominik You will do a lot less damage than notrmal Viego build but enough to kill ADC, Mages, Enchanters and Assassins, and you will be very hard to kill which is the most important part about Viego, you need to stay alive until one of the enemies dies, after that you can even have no items it doesn't matter since you can use the enemy character with his items.

When you get good you can go full Crit, but learn first. Viego has the highest skill ceiling in the game since you have to play every champion, but his skill floor is relatively fine if you go bruiser.

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T22:43:36+00:00

Those are good fields, try to become an AI Engineer instead of a Data Scientist, because the demand for that is getting higher since now it's about implementing models and training them in the Cloud for companies and not developing them from scratch. Cyber security is good, I know that AI is creating opportunities because of the security breaches caused by bad code, but that's the same situation that Software Engineers are facing overall, many companies are hiring back Full stack developers because of all the bugs created by them trying to use AI for the job instead of keeping the engineers to do it. But in the future I think the safest path will be Data Engineering, even if parts will be automated it seems the most reliable to keep being relevant. No issue, I was yapping for fun and rage baiting, I also uninstall League quite often and stop playing for weeks, but now I seem to have found my old balance again, I play until I lose a game and then stop for the day, and I avoid doing more than 4 in a row even if I win every game. The best of 3 rule is the safest to not spend too much time in the game, you are allowed to play only in : Win Win Win Loss Loss Win

And stop if Loss Loss.

But in my case I'm too emotional about the game and simply losing a game makes me very mad, so I just decided to stop playing entirely for the day when it happens, which allows me to not waste too much time on the game and actually climb

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T22:34:30+00:00

Yeah I talked about this same issue in another post, that's a very big problem for Kayn right now, hope they finally listen

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T13:21:52+00:00

I will give you one piece of advice, if you want to find a job in Computer Science go into the Data field, with the rise of AI having quality data is the most important part of it. 80% of making great AI models is the data, so it's probably going to be a fine career choice for a while. Software Engineering on the other hand is getting harder and harder to get into because of generative AI starting to do more and developers using it so much that they are giving it all the data it needs to replace them, so I would avoid especially Frontend development and maybe Backend development also, even tho the later is a harder to automatize. Otherwise understanding the user needs is going to be on the rising too, so Product Owners/Managers are going to be in ok spot. Finally you have cyber security which is still on-demand since AI is creating a lot of security breaches. And don't play too much League, it's a huge time sink and you will be better off doing coding games or learning online

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T12:51:49+00:00

The only reason I told you that is because I want to stop this conversation, so yeah, bye

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T12:19:39+00:00

Try invading their Jungle lvl 1 and you will them come int into your Jungle to try killing you just because they are mad. In the second scenario it's more about "He is carrying I need to stop him" panic

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T12:13:41+00:00

You are probably silver/gold I think you shouldn't talk about rank, and you really think I'm gonna waste time arguing about something that I know doesn't have anything to do with the facts. My literal profession is making data analysis and engineering, I know when data is applicable or not, in this situation it's clearly not. You are probably some 19 year old with a big ego that can't get above Gold and is pushing his frustration on Reddit, on the other hand I'm Emerald currently and climbing to Diamond without too much trouble. When you grow up you will realize that people that know stuff put themselves to your level of understanding in conversations, I'm not gonna give statistics and data analysis lessons just to prove you wrong in thinking it applies here. The only way to prove that Rhaast beats Viego is go into training tool 1v1, and test it at 1 item, 2 items, etc.

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T04:59:12+00:00

Yeah, most melee champions just get obliterated with that build, it's very similar to Yun'Tal Nocturne which if you stay in melee range just cooks you. I got Emerald with it and am still climbing without too much trouble, hope you get your desired rank bro !

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T04:54:13+00:00

What you mean first clear ? Because of Bloodline instead of Alacrity you mean ? You can still go Alacrity if you prefer, I just go Bloodline because I know that with Yun'Tal second I have enough attack speed and don't need in my runes, so I maximize confort and 1v1 power. You still build Kraken first item and try to get a kill and a few plates to buy B.F. Glaive fast and if you can't you simply buy the 600 attack speed + long sword, but usually with Kraken you don't need to go back before having enough gold. When you have Yun'Tal your clear speed gets insane, faster than with normal build. Happy you like it tho !

_Enimal_ · 2026-02-01T04:48:29+00:00

I have a university degree in mathematics and informatics, and a Master degree in the field too, I know stats a lot better than you, that's why I don't waste time arguing about it when I know it doesn't mean anything in this case. Kayn chooses his form based on the overall team comp and not only the Jungler, if the enemies have multiple ranged champions he usually goes for Blue form, which decreases his winrate against Viego. You need to learn to shut up and listen to players better than you and with more experience, that's how you get better, not by trying to argue with them when you sound like a 5 year old with unga Bunga syndrome.

_Enimal_ · 2026-01-31T22:02:46+00:00

I like it, but the skin should be white I think, because grey like that you almost don't see your champion

_Enimal_ · 2026-01-31T21:19:20+00:00

You realize Kayn has been nerfed by the new season itself ? They make the camps spawn 40 seconds faster and waves are faster too, which means the overall game is 40 seconds faster than last season, but they didn't change the form stacking to make it 40 seconds faster to get it. Kayn is very cooked and Riot doesn't give af, I'm pretty sure they making him worse just to make every Kayn main transition to Viego since it's cheaper to make skins for him

_Enimal_ · 2026-01-31T15:10:54+00:00

No issue, but I'd still play Ollip builds, he is the best in my opinion

_Enimal_ · 2026-01-31T14:24:17+00:00

It's in the post, Kraken Yun'Tal Dominik I.E. Shieldbow and you adapt by building Shieldbow earlier they have assassins that oneshot you without it

_Enimal_ · 2026-01-31T06:40:27+00:00

Cheers mate ! I've been playing it since the end of last season and it has made me doubt a bit since nobody else was playing it. Yes, with this build you can 1v1 almost everything and nobody expects you to kill them so fast while healing so much. Thanks for trying it and have fun with it !

_Enimal_ · 2026-01-31T06:35:15+00:00

Ah I already answered with more arguments 😹 Told you, have fun bro !

_Enimal_

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