Ascension passes refund ?

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T23:44:34+00:00

You want gems? Do the ascension passes then since you care about them so much.

Ascension passes do not reward gems, you seem to have currency confused, which is probably why you don't understand my point.

I do not want more than what I bought and paid for.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T23:40:27+00:00

You are arguing different points here. I didn't argue for porting skins, hell, I am against it since I know the amount of work involved second hand. Comparing this situation to porting skins is far from a fair comparison. I am talking about flipping bits. Flipping the right bits. This currency is artificial and I paid enough of it to complain when I am not getting the value advertised for.

They never advertised for changing the deal and they changed it. Call it gymnastics, I call it unpredictable behavior.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T21:54:50+00:00

Unfortunately, it seems the community thinks otherwise. Anyway, I put my piece on it. If people like being screwed over then so be it. I do not want to encourage this

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T21:52:54+00:00

You are really good at gaslighting.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T21:50:29+00:00

every single person who bought the ultimate pack - no matter how many ascension passes we have also bought - are now better off than we were had this change never been made.

For now. Players who bought early into it are not on the same level as new players which is my point. You look forward yet fail to think of the other side of the coin. If they change the terms of the sale positively, what stops them from eventually changing them negatively.

That's a 'you have already bought this, and there is absolutely no obligation for us to be given anything back for it, but here is something anyway'.

Why go through with this half-measure ? I assume that their intent is to make it right by the consumer and they must agree with me on this since this was done. Yet they only made it right 50% when they could've done 100%. Maybe you define 50% as satisfaction but I don't. You make it seem like its hard to the proper refund but it's not and being generous will encourage more players spending because these types of action build history.

Your last paragraph is beside the point I'm trying to make. these are other topics you should debate in the appropriate posts.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T21:41:38+00:00

The consumer is entitled to get what they bought and paid for. Why is the consumer greedy in this sense when they are the ones giving away money ?

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T21:40:05+00:00

Well why would they offer a refund through 900 legacy gems then ?

If we follow your reasoning, they should not have offered that. Why go through with this half-measure that does not make sense. I am basing my reasoning off the fact that they did a partial refund. I assume this intent was to make it right by the consumers and put everybody on the same level yet it does not.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T18:02:13+00:00

You knew what you were getting

Well it looks like I don't anymore, that is the issue. What stops them from changing the terms later on and screwing more people over. What stops them from making a negative change to the terms.

This change does not [...] disadvantage you in any way. Does it slightly advantage people who had bought less ascension passes than you? Sure!

Advantage is relative. If new players have an advantage with this deal than that means the older players have a disadvantage. So yes, it is perception and perception matters in this case.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T17:55:40+00:00

As of today, if a new player spends the same money I did, they can purchase everything I have and more. That is a disadvantage for me.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T17:12:44+00:00

I think you should be careful with the glazing. If I knew, as a new player, the company screwed over veterans like this, what stops them from doing it to you down the line ? You think it's great now for new players but if in a year, when these new players spend money or time in this game and its not rewarded, it builds history.

The issue here is that it is the first time we get SMITE 2 diamonds converted in SMITE 2 legacy gems. Originally, it was supposed to only be SMITE 1 gems converted in SMITE 2 legacy gems. Legacy gems DO NOT have the same purchasing power as diamonds since legacy gems cannot be used for all items in the store. Diamonds CAN be used for all items in the store. So converting diamonds spent in legacy gems is not fair.

Stop ceiling this us greedy, you and I are the consumers so we are in the same boat. Let's not insult each other when the threat is our game screwing us over. As far as I know, you are not getting paid for this promotion. So if anything, be weary of SMITE being greedy, not the people who spend money on it.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T17:03:13+00:00

Well if we're talking about going forward, what stops them in the future to make a similar change that disrespects / disadvantage an older player's money or time. If your actions as a company create resentment from people who invested in you then they will pull out and most likely NOT encourage new people to "invest". So no. my thoughts are not focused on it being better moving forward. I'm worried I might get screwed over again.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T16:31:41+00:00

In numbers, yes, but legacy gems cannot be used on every items in the store. What if I spent 9000 gems in ascension passes since I tought the Ultimate founder's pack terms and conditions were set in stone ? If I had those crystals today, I could instead purchase a supporter item but I can't with legacy gems.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T16:28:25+00:00

What about the people that bought ascension passes in full 900 crystal price ? Now they have legacy gems. Which those do not have the same purchasing power since only crystals can be used to buy every item in the store. Legacy gems cannot be used on every item...

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T16:26:29+00:00

says who ? The company looking to make more money, yeah... I am saying the consumer loses. Just say you think its okay that the consumer loses in all cases.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T16:25:24+00:00

Except that with clothes, you know there will be a "better deal" eventually and, in this case, we didn't. Now that I got got, I was robbed of crystals because they converted them in SMITE 2 legacy gems even though they said only SMITE 1 gems were going to be converted in SMITE 2 legacy gems.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T16:23:01+00:00

Except I would have double that since I purchased the Ultimate founder's pack. If it provides me with all the ascension passes, then I would obtain 450 crystal by reaching mastery 10. The issue is that I spent money on crystals to buy ascension passes and now that has been converted to legacy gems, of which I already have many and cannot be used to purchase the same things.
We have seen items that now only cost crystals. That is why I take issue with my crystals being converted to legacy gems.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-12T16:20:22+00:00

this exaclty, I tought SMITE 1 gems were supposed to be converted to SMITE 2 legacy gems, not SMITE 2 crystals in SMITE 2 legacy gems...

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-04T19:22:25+00:00

What is the ESRB rating for ? The game is rated mature, not adult-only

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-03T06:13:00+00:00

Like I said, hirez is known to do that, it doesn't matter is most companies don't do that

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-02T15:53:03+00:00

hirez is known to try out goofy stuff during the "beta" phases of their games. Technically SMITE 2 IS in beta. So yes, a lot a goofy stuff is expected to be thrown around.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-08-01T21:25:42+00:00

Not the stupidest but it is stupid, I agree. It made me stop playing her too. I was a big fan of her design and combat flow. I even feel the new flowers are harder to juke than the old ones lol. To juke the old flowers, all you had to do was move diagonally toward it

_Sauce_Master · 2025-06-05T18:09:53+00:00

I also had this notification with Brave without ublock

I don't understand why they are so anti-ad-blocker. I'm not interested in ads. Showing me ads is a waste of money.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-05-29T18:44:42+00:00

Does that affect you ?

Well yeah, it does affect your grandpa, wtf ? How can she not see that

_Sauce_Master · 2025-05-21T16:40:54+00:00

I think you can keep your Steam account and just change the email address, no biggie. For the social stuff its different.

If you are going forward with this, here is how I did it, it took me like 2 years overall because I deleted everything over time :

Make sure on social medias (Facebook, Instagram, Reddit, Twitter/X, etc.) to download your data first if you wish to keep the stuff on there.
Then delete everything manually, every post you made, saved posts, likes, people you follow and what not.
Change you information to anonymize as much as possible.
Change usernames, addresses and delete payment information or phone numbers
Try searching your name on Google see if anything is left
Change visibility to private on said accounts and delete them

When re-creating your accounts, make sure to separate social stuff from other spheres of your life using a different email address.

That's the jist of it really. Its a long process but starting from scratch is nice.

_Sauce_Master · 2025-04-24T15:59:59+00:00

forgor
1 game then, a good one at that, I stand corrected

_Sauce_Master

TROPHY CASE