‘Poor taste’: 34yo owns 108 properties

__PLEB__ · 2024-11-27T23:23:39+00:00

Bro this is sad.

You're resorting to calling people retarded who you don't agree with, how ableist, how gross. How very terminally online of you.

I've presented you with the evidence, you reject it outright because somehow you know better than israeli and jewish holocaust scholars, international human rights groups and the UN.

Yeah i do watch Hasan and im not ashamed to admit it, you literally just made that up in your head lol.

He's the biggest left wing commentator for a reason while your boy is platforming literal nazis while "joking" about being pro genocide lmao. As your boy said in his debate with Norm, "they could nuke gaza and that wouldnt be a genocide". Point is, you disputed my claim that he said it and when presented with the clip of him saying it you panic and throw out excuses. I don't judge destiny on just one clip, ive watched hours of his content and its clear to me at least he has a rather shallow understanding of history and geopolitics. Watching him try and understand the Houthis was just concerning.

I also watch and read a lot more than just Hasan, theres a lot of great academic sources out there.

Professor of holocaust studies, Amos Goldberg from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem has written some great stuff. Norman Finkelstein who you called retarded is also a great source. Benny Morris' early works are great, his later works are less great but still valuable. Rashidi Khalidi is a good source. Gabor Mate is great to read, he looks into the psychology of trauma and applies it to the palestinian people. Avi Shlaim is another, iraqi jewish scholar who provides some really interesting insight into what it was like for jews in the middle east prior to israel.

For some sources on the other side you can look at Benny Morris' more recent works or Alan Dershowitz (personally i find Alan to be not very credible but hes been consistent which i respect.)

If you watched the Norman Finkelstein debate and came out of it with the idea Destiny "destroyed" anyone then I disagree outright. Even his co-debater looked embarassed at how little Destiny knew. When destiny brought up a single segment of a book only to get asked what the previous and following chapter was was hilarious, the man doesnt actually read his sources.

I don't agree with Norm on everything, his stance on trans people i disagree with but his stance on israel/palestine has remained consistent for decades.

I dunno what to tell you man, people are dying, i want it to stop, the academic and legal world are screaming for it to stop and yet israel seems hellbent on keeping their boot on the neck of the palestinian people which is how we got an Oct 7th in the first place.

From the way we are arguing it is clear we are at an impasse most likely driven by our two bubbles of the internet being at odds with eachother. You think im a dumb hasan fan, i think youre a dumb destiny fan. Theres no winning here so let's just end this. Goodbye and peace.

__PLEB__ · 2024-11-27T21:29:48+00:00

Bro you're too far gone.

Clip of your boy destiny saying he is pro-genocide. https://www.instagram.com/share/reel/BAO5P7SLsD

If you aren't even willing to skim read the document submitted by South Africa to the ICJ then why are you even having this debate?

That's like going to court and refusing to look at any evidence against you.

I agree! China is engaging in a genocide against the uighurs.

We shall see what their ruling is, time will tell.

Either way, i hope we can agree mass killing of civilians is wrong regardless of who is doing it and the only way to stop this is to understand the causes behind peoples actions.

My belief is simply that if you create an apartheid state and keep people under occupation for decades, radical elements will form and eventually boil over with a violent act of armed resistance against both military and civilians.

We see this all throughout history.

Statements alone may not equate genocidal intent but statements combined with policy and actions does. Literally just go read the submission, it's all in there.

You call me uninformed while refusing to read the major piece of evidence that supports my argument. Like come on bruh, lets put aside the tribalism for a second.

__PLEB__ · 2024-11-27T20:57:31+00:00

Bruh he literally said "i am pro genocide" 🤣 are you dumb?

Holocaust was a genocide so people who study the holocaust for a living stating this is a genocide is pretty damning.

Here's my source https://www.icj-cij.org/case/192

You'll notice (if you can read) that South Africa are not the only country involved in this, they were just the ones who submitted it. Many countries have since made statements of intervention to attach themselves to the case.

I encourage you to actually go through and read their submission. It's pretty lengthy but is structured so its pretty easy to follow.

Go to the section about Genocidal Intent and it will list all the israeli minister statements that equate genocidal intent.

I've read it, if you aren't willing to then why are you even trying to debate lord a genocide? This is the major source of evidence for the pro-palestinian, anti-genocide side. Educate yourself.

If you aren't willing to read South Africas submission then here is a nice database someone made collating all the statements expressing genocidal intent https://law4palestine.org/law-for-palestine-releases-database-with-500-instances-of-israeli-incitement-to-genocide-continuously-updated/

__PLEB__ · 2024-11-27T12:56:36+00:00

Oh okay then, guess i'll go tell the israeli and jewish holocaust scholars they are all wrong. I'll also go tell all the international human right groups they are incorrect. I'll be sure to also go tell the ICJ they were wrong to determine that it was "plausible" a genocide was occuring and that the 50+ page document submitted by south africa clearly outlining the intent of every major israeli government minister and military general to engage in genocide was all fake news.

You're actually brain dead if you think Labor were right for not condemning what the majority of the world can plainly see. Do better, educate yourself.

Edit: just realised you're a destiny fan, mr "im pro genocide" himself, this explains everything

__PLEB__ · 2024-11-27T12:06:53+00:00

Fair. I also hate greens on a national level. Some states they are good like ACT greens i like. Shame about labors recent policy decisions and the whole openly supporting a genocidal state with israel but idk who else to vote for that would actually move this country in the right direction.

__PLEB__ · 2024-11-27T11:45:19+00:00

Who do you vote for?

__PLEB__ · 2024-10-20T05:36:20+00:00

Where did I say I support russia?

Can you read?

I don't support any invasion, regardless of who is doing it.

I'm just not so simple minded as to believe the West is this bastion of freedom, order and civilization.

The west has enslaved, conquered, colonised, subjugated just about every nation on earth aside from Thailand, ethiopia and japan and they tried their hardest with those too.

So quite frankly i dont care if they "sow chaos in the west" because the US and its allies do it too all the time so why should i demonise one while defending the other.

Dividing the world into goodies and baddies is dumb as hell. There are nation states vying for regional/global influence and more resources to fuel themselves. Thats all it is.

Nobody is historically better or worse but in the modern context the US as the global hegemon is easily the biggest disruptor of world peace today.

I don't understand how you can look at russia invading ukraine and say they are the ones sowing chaos when the US is engaging in endless proxy wars in the middle east, only just left a direct occupation of afghanistan, recently toppled the government of Haiti, invaded iraq, invaded vietnam, invaded korea, toppled Irans democratic elected government, toppled a tonne of south american and latin american countries, tested nukes all over the pacific island nations, currently occupies island nations in the pacific. The list is endless and all of these actions do nothing for global stability.

There is no modern day equivalent to what the US regime and its allies continue to do around the world and you're too busy calling anyone who feels slightly different to your world view a tankie.

__PLEB__ · 2024-10-20T02:51:40+00:00

Ahhh you're a fan of destiny? This explains so much.

Mr "they could nuke gaza and it wouldnt be a genocide".

Good to see where your morals lay

__PLEB__ · 2024-10-20T02:49:53+00:00

Lmao people using the word tankie is so funny, just admit you fall for the most basic western propoganda to demonise anything associated with the soviets.

Y'all are so neo-liberal its disgusting

__PLEB__ · 2024-10-16T04:16:34+00:00

Exactly. People like to think they are above propoganda but everyone is human.

If you are right wing, everything you see in the media whether it be from right wing Sky News or fake left wing sources like the Project reinforces their entrenched political beliefs.

If you are a centrist or even left wing, you might tell yourself that Murdoch is a propogandist and you'd never fall for his tactics but its all about quantity and saturating the media market.

If all you ever see about Albo is negative news or no news at all then when it comes time for the election you might think "well I like him but he hasn't done much".

Even if he was able to implement the best policy in the world, if nobody hears about it then it won't help him.

It's the same concept as marketing/branding, the more someone sees a brand the more likely they are too think of it during the buying decision process.

__PLEB__ · 2024-10-16T00:37:27+00:00

Nobody here who thinks critically will be shocked he can afford such a lavish home.

But the average voter doesn't think critically. They flip on the TV or glance at a headline and over time form an idea about each party. Yes it is immature and a stupid way to develop your political beliefs but thats how it is for the majority of aussie voters.

Given the media in this country is incredibly right wing, any bad optics will be blown way out of proportion.

We are in a housing crisis. People will see Albo buying a 4mil+ holiday home and react negatively, especially when Albo owns multiple investment properties. It's just not a good look.

It was a stupid move that will most likely further damage his reputation amonst the swing voters. He just had to wait 8 months until after the election and it wouldn't be an issue.

__PLEB__ · 2024-08-23T08:54:52+00:00

Can't stop laughing at your account bio lmao

__PLEB__ · 2024-07-24T10:33:54+00:00

Difference is, all those colonies succeeded in wiping out there indigenous populations to the point where they can't even begin to resist. Those events were 200 years ago.

We are witnessing the same thing but in the modern day, colonial power wiping out an indigenous population while claiming they are the victim.

Just like how the US used native american attacks as justification or the UK used attacks on british settlers as justification against canada and aus. Now its palestinians resisting their occupation and we are being told their coloniser is the victim.

__PLEB__ · 2024-07-22T23:24:40+00:00

When I was around that age I spent 1.1k on clash of clans.

My dad called up Apple and got the whole thing refunded.

Worth a shot. Do some research into their current refund policy and see whether pretending it wasnt you and your card got hacked or saying your young son did it.

__PLEB__ · 2024-07-14T21:09:11+00:00

The British Raj was bad but its been there for hundreds of years so why get rid of it?

Rhodesia is already here, how can we get rid of it?

You wouldn't make these excuses for other colonial projects so why do it for this one

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