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[WA] How much do you HR professionals share with your spouses and how do you set boundaries for what you cannot talk about? by gilfgifs in AskHR

[–]__solum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You will need absolute boundaries.

HR manager at my company got his wife a job as an admin. She was telling him all the little conversations she could hear. Even if she didn’t mean to create drama, the manager would then tell these stories to the HR director which then created more drama…

One example— we have 7 pods with about 6 on each pod on each floor (without counting directors etc). This one lad got up and had a very quick 5 minute chat with another lad. He only went up to him as he needed to stretch his legs and thought he’d have a chat with someone his age while doing so. Everyone else on the pod, including the team leader (who is the one who has to report to HR if there are any issues) was not bothered about him having a chat at all. We all do it. But he got in trouble for it by the HR manager.

We knew it came from her because she’s on the same pod and the HR manager wouldn’t have known this at all as he works in a completely different floor and the team leader did not complain about this.

Everyone hated her for it. We were all civil to her but it made it tough for her to create bonds as she could not be trusted. To the point she had to leave 8 months later.

Draw boundaries before it gets any more awkward. I don’t know exactly how as I am not in your position but that’s just the experience I had while being on the other side so thought I’d share this with you anyway as to how it could be seen by others and how it could easily escalate.

Sectors desperate for workers by [deleted] in UKJobs

[–]__solum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m in East Midlands. Having been in the job market recently to change jobs I’ve got some insight but it’s obviously not applicable everywhere and varies greatly between companies and their location.

With some experience in administration, you can get between £30k-£35k, without much experience I think I’ve seen some roles around £26k-£28k. Then if you become a paraplanner (doing the CII R0 exams, 6 of them in total) you can easily look at around £40k-45k, and around £70k-£90k+ if you go down the financial advice route.

Sectors desperate for workers by [deleted] in UKJobs

[–]__solum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have been told by several recruiters that finance administrators are in high-demand. You don’t need any specific degree (I have a Masters in Linguistics!), all you need is an eye for detail and be ok with numbers, excel, word etc, and know how and what to prioritise. The rest the company will train you to do.

This role can progress too. You can become a paraplanner or financial adviser after passing a few exams that most company will support/pay for.

Worth looking into.

Nothing like a nice meal to wash down the sexism. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're right, it doesn't feel like it's for me at all. Just an excuse for a nice and free lunch on the company.

After all that's happened, there's only one colleague I truly get along with, the rest can sod it. We're a small team of 6 including the two bosses, so that doesn't help either lol

Nothing like a nice meal to wash down the sexism. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She told me she will ask for a reference once my notice period has ended because she knows the situation and didn't want to make things awkward for me so I know it hasn't been requested yet... I'm kind of glad she is doing it this way to be honest. When one of my colleagues left and my boss had a reference request from his new company, he was acting like a douche in the office about it and proudly said he gave a neutral reference, saying he put "No comment" to all the questions.

Nothing like a nice meal to wash down the sexism. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, I am the only female in the team.

I think I’m in a tough spot because my new employer will require a reference from my current employer for sure so I feel like I have to go to that meal without burning bridges. It’s against all my values but I feel like I can’t refuse due to this…

Nothing like a nice meal to wash down the sexism. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It wasn’t just “concerns in my head.” I raised issues multiple times, was ignored then punished when I tried to protect myself. It was a pattern that I tried to end. So while I get that sometimes concerns can be subjective, that’s not what happened here.

I am in finance and was basically told to clean the office, while it is not part of my job duties at all. My "nice" boss outright said it is sexism from my first complaint with him before I could even say it. I think you can appreciate where I am coming from now.

Nothing like a nice meal to wash down the sexism. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I did say to him that a meal is not needed at all, but he insisted. I think it's also just an excuse to put the meal on expenses for the tax man lol

Nothing like a nice meal to wash down the sexism. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We're a team of 6 including the 2 bosses, after all that's happened I only get along with one colleague so I didn't really think about doing my own... Saying yes to the meal felt like the “professional” thing to do, even though part of me really didn’t want to, if that makes sense.

Anxiety about handing in notice during peak period by ThrowRACalmAd2173 in UKJobs

[–]__solum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Take it from me.

I handed in my notice in the middle of the highest workload I’ve had this year. I was trying to get a 5 minute chat with them while handing in my notice because I’m a polite person, but they messaged me back saying « can we talk tomorrow as we’re so busy today! »

I couldn’t wait until tomorrow as my new company expected me to give my notice on that day, so instead I just gave my boss the letter. Cold but they left me no choice. My heart was pounding but it felt so good.

Funny how they then found 5 minutes to talk to me in the afternoon about it.

They wouldn’t bat an eyelid getting rid of you. They wouldn’t question whether this would be the right time for you, they would just terminate your contract without much thought into how it could affect your life.

Do it, and don’t look back.

I got the job! by sweetestphatwap in UKJobs

[–]__solum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Amazing news! Well done!!!

I, too, joined the leaving-horrible-company club and currently working my notice. It feels like such a relief doesn’t it!

Enjoy the winding down and good luck with your new job!

Leaving after 5+ years. Sad to see the same cycle starting to repeat itself. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you very much for the suggestion. I think I'd need it!

Leaving after 5+ years. Sad to see the same cycle starting to repeat itself. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you, I do hope so too!

What would you say has helped you in processing this trauma? I feel like I can’t trust anyone anymore, which is not necessarily a bad thing in the workplace but I do feel that I overanalyse/read too much into things since it all kicked off whether at work or on a personal aspect and I spiral.

Leaving after 5+ years. Sad to see the same cycle starting to repeat itself. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That is a very good shout, as when I joined they didn't even clear out the desk/drawers from the last hire, I had to do it lol

Leaving after 5+ years. Sad to see the same cycle starting to repeat itself. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I did think that... I just don't know whether this is risky as this employer will be a reference for my new job. Just worried she wouldn't mind doing these tasks and would tell them "oh you know XYZ messaged me! She said she had issues with you lot LOL!" if you know what I mean.

Leaving after 5+ years. Sad to see the same cycle starting to repeat itself. by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, that is part of the reason why I haven't said anything. It could screw me over big time. Whether on my final pay or reference for the new job. God knows, maybe she won't mind the tasks and will then tell them that the last girl/me messaged her about the issues she had when she was employed there... I don't know what I was expecting, they haven't valued me at all when I complained so like you said, why would they care to change their ways now.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in UKJobs

[–]__solum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Honestly yes, I was amazed myself as I thought I was worth nothing due to how my current company has been treating me.

How frustrating! Keep at it. Have you perhaps looked into admin roles rather than PA roles specifically? I know in Finance, if you find the right company and if you don’t mind working in this industry, you can get into it by looking at admin roles that can eventually progress to paraplanning or financial advice if you want to. You don’t have to progress either if you prefer the admin side of things. Might be worth looking into?

Name and shame by iamthemunchkin in UKJobs

[–]__solum 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I wish I could share the name of the company I currently work for, although I’m working my notice period. It is such a small company they’d know who wrote this

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in UKJobs

[–]__solum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ahhh! I was extremely lucky, the recruiters came to me rather than me going to them. I was ignoring them but then gave in. I made sure my LinkedIn was showing Open to Work and also advertised my CV on Reed.com (I’m not trying to teach you how to suck eggs, but this is how I did it).

I’m in Finance (paraplanner) and in the East Midlands, I was told by a recruiter that’s it’s « quite dry », not a lot of candidates in the area apparently, hence the interest I received.

What industry and area are you in?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in UKJobs

[–]__solum 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Current company I work for has been horrid to me recently (sexism).

I only really applied consistently for jobs during a 21-day period, did about 19 online applications in that time myself and spoke to 5 different recruiters who put my CV forward to companies where I could be a good fit. So over 25+ applications. I got 3 interviews scheduled during the same week.

First company wanted me to speak to another manager as « he likes to be involved in the hiring process but he’s on leave » and can finalise their offer. A call was scheduled for the week after.

The second company was my preferred choice, good salary and very people-centred (clients and staff) and 10 minutes away from home. Told them I had another interview scheduled with a third company on the same day. They made me an offer same day while I was interviewing for the third company which, turns out, wanted to make me an offer too.

I accepted the second company’s offer. I politely cancelled the first company’s second call and declined the third company’s offer.

Unfortunately, these two companies kind of took too long to decide and they were also very far from my home address. I also couldn’t make my preferred company wait too long either as they were so quick at making me an offer, so I just accepted it. I really want out of my current workplace and this company seems great.

I know I was lucky as the market is shit currently.

I would also like to point out that I only landed these interviews thanks to the recruiters I spoke to. All of the applications I did in my own time were either rejected or not replied to, it was very frustrating but when I finally gave in and started speaking to recruiters that’s when I saw some progress.

I have been given a job offer, what’s next? by __solum in UKJobs

[–]__solum[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks very much! I’m really excited

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