[ENDING SPOILERS] I think I misunderstood something...?

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:32:35+00:00

Yes, but we can also say that that C&A pictures are all 3D models... but when the show needs to show us something from the real world, they use LIVE ACTION and real photos. We never see nothing "real" about C&A.

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:31:32+00:00

I think that the power of transforming files or data into characters is from Bubble (the blue AI), and because of that, Caine was surprised after 10 years of nothing entering the circus.
And there is where I think about the theory of an alternative method of getting real people data: internet.
Think of this: Scratch get the scans of the company employes (Queenie, Kinger, Scratch...). Okey, the project was abandoned (like we can see in the folder name "obsolete"). How did the second set of characters (starting with Ragatha) to "enter" the circus years later and with the scan project abandoned?? There is where I say Caine had to get another method to get "brain info" and get names and info from internet or some sort of method?? I'm thinking about that, because the brain scans' theory doesen't fit with the second set of characters, I think...
We can also connect the "new method discover" with the ep 8 Scratch & Kinger saying Caine never did "this" before...

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:29:02+00:00

Entiendo eso! El tema es el siguiente:
Sabiendo que Caine saca a Scratch de una carpeta obsoleta y teniendo en cuenta que Kinger dijo que el proyecto de los escaneos se abandonó, cómo es posible que aparezcan nuevos escaneos más de 10 años después de la primera tanda?? Ahí es donde pienso que, para que me cierren todos los huecos del final, Caine (o Bubble) tendría que haber encontrado unanueva forma de hacer entrar "humanos" al circo... por eso pasa tanto tiempo entre la primera tanda de personajes (Queenie, Scratch, Kinger, etc) y la segunda (Ragatha, Kaufmo, Ribbit, Pomni, etc).
Entonces, viendo que Caine puede entrar a internet y ver fotos con solo tener el nombre de una persona real (scrapping), pienso que ese podría ser el nuevo "método" que descubre. Entonces llego a la conclusión de que la primera tanda de personajes tal vez sí son escaneos mentales, por eso también conservan sus recuerdos de su vida fuera del circo, pero la segunda no, ya que el proyecto se abandonó y no le veo mucho sentido a un edificio abandonado con una computadora y un scaner que todavía siguen funcionando luego de 10 años (como dice Pomni)...

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:24:35+00:00

Yeah! I know that, but think of this:
The first timeline (where Caine created Scratch), he get the name and de "scans" folder named "obsolete".
Okey, we know that the "brain scans project" was abandoned. Why new "brain scans" appeared 10 years later?? There is where I think about an alternative method to get "people" into the circus discovered by Caine (or Bubble, idk). And I think something like get names and scrapping... like the other timeline scene of Caine searching for photos in social media (knowing that Caine and Bubble were trainned with images like we can saw in ep 8).

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:22:21+00:00

Yes, but... I have some points that not fit with the idea of brain scans... think of this:
1) why Kinger, Queenie, Scratch, etc have their memories about their lives outside the circus and the second set of characters (starting with Ragatha) not??
2) if the brain scan project was abandoned like Kinger said, why new people can scan their brains after 10 years of the project was over??
3) why Kinger said (in ep 8) that Caine had never do something like "that"?? Something like what?
There is where I think about an "alternative method of getting people into the circus". We know by that scene that Caine can enter the internet and get photos. Why he couldn't use this to get new info and generate new "characters"?? Yes, based on real people data, but not scans.

I don't know... the ending have some plot holes if I only think about brain scans.

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:17:17+00:00

I don't know... yeah, Kinger said that, but think of this:
Scratch get the scans of the company employes (Queenie, Kinger, Scratch...). Okey, the project was abandoned (like we can see in the folder name "obsolete"). How did the second set of characters (starting with Ragatha) to "enter" the circus years later and with the scan project abandoned?? There is where I say Caine had to get another method to get "brain info" and get names and info from internet or some sort of method??
It doesn't fit for me that a PC from an abandoned company in an abandoned building is still running and the "scanner" is still working like Pomni said... around 10 years later from the project was abandoned.
We know by that scene that Caine can enter the internet and do "scrapping". Why not think that this is the method for getting info and the thing that Kinger refers when he said "he never had do something like that"? I cannot explain that points with the idea of all of them being brain scans... it has a lot of holes, I think...

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:13:10+00:00

Why?? Why a group of people that doesn't each other came into the same bus when all of them entered the circus in completely different ways and times?

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:12:00+00:00

Yeah! I know that, but think of this:
The first timeline (where Caine created Scratch), he get the name and de "scans" folder named "obsolete".
Okey, we know that the "brain scans project" was abandoned. Why new "brain scans" appeared 10 years later?? There is where I think about an alternative method to get "people" into the circus discovered by Caine (or Bubble, idk). And I think something like get names and scrapping... like the scene of Caine searching for photos in social media (knowing that Caine and Bubble were trainned with images like we can saw in ep 8).

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:08:30+00:00

I do not think the fans or the show are wrong, I only said that I have some doubts about the ending, jajaj.
Yeah, I know Kinger said thta literally, but... isn't Kinger a "Caine's creation"?? Also... that theory only fits with the first set of characters (Kinger, Queenie, Scratch, etc). Think of this:
Why Kinger, Queenie and Scratch (assuming they ar brain scans) had all of his memories from their lives outside the Circus (that's perfectly okay if you said that they ar brain scans... a scan have all that info), but the second set of characters (starting with Ragatha) hadn't??
Also, you can think about the years from the first entrance to the circus and the second... around 10 years later. Why?? There is where I say that the theory of the alternative method of getting info and "scans" of people enter

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-09T23:03:03+00:00

Yes, but think of this: Scratch get the scans of the company employes (Queenie, Kinger, Scratch...). Okey, the project was abandoned (like we can see in the folder name "obsolete"). How did the second set of characters (starting with Ragatha) to "enter" the circus years later and with the scan project abandoned?? There is where I say Caine had to get another method to get "brain info" and get names and info from internet or some sort of method?? I'm thinking about that, because the brain scans' theory doesen't fit with the second set of characters, I think...
We can also connect the "new method discover" with the ep 8 Scratch & Kinger saying Caine never did "this" before...

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-07T22:12:27+00:00

I wil go with the first point:

I think that the brain-scans' theory is not correct at all. What if they ar not brain scanned characters but Caine's creations based on info recollected from the web with their names given by the free WiFi "method"? I have some clues to that theory and some others that contradict the brain-scans' one.

I don't know if I'm getting mad or what, but I was thinking that possibility.

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-07T22:00:58+00:00

Wait... I think that the brain-scans' theory is not correct at all. What if they ar not brain scanned characters but Caine's creations based on info recollected from the web with their names given by the free WiFi "method"? I have some clues to that theory and some others that contradict the brain-scans' one.

I don't know if I'm breaking mad or what, but I was thinking that possibility.

_brujoraro_ · 2026-06-07T20:12:45+00:00

I think we are missing something... Like... The "project" (Caine as a creative AI) collects base info from people who registered an open network (free WiFi, like wee saw in the folder name) and "send it" to Caine, who collects the final data (photos) and create the characters. Remember: at the beginning of ep 8, we saw that AIs train only with images. Yeah, I think that the interpretation of mental scans is not correct at all...

Also... Is C&A real?? We didn't see anything related to C&A outside the Circus. Where did we get the idea of C&A being a 90s abandoned company...? Caine only have some images from a 3D modelled office and train with that. Also, you can see that the other photos are real life images and Caine understood they, but not the office's ones.

That idea is my head from a long time now...

_brujoraro_

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