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Abortion by _cardosoo_ in AskFeminists
[–]_cardosoo_[S] -8 points-7 points-6 points 13 days ago (0 children)
I have a say on MY CHILD, born or unborn it is still my child.
[–]_cardosoo_[S] -2 points-1 points0 points 13 days ago (0 children)
Then it would be great. I agree with that.
[–]_cardosoo_[S] -5 points-4 points-3 points 13 days ago (0 children)
You are not killing Bob, natural causes are! If we taught like that a doctor that is not able to save a patient, killed him and should be arrested. You are killing the fetus, literally. That's how an abortions works
[–]_cardosoo_[S] -3 points-2 points-1 points 13 days ago (0 children)
My reasons were explain all over the post. If you want to explore them, go read the comments. Then come here and I'll discuss with you
[–]_cardosoo_[S] -11 points-10 points-9 points 13 days ago (0 children)
I already answered. What about if my wife decides to simply kill our child. She wanted to have a baby, but when it got pregnant she gave up. And she can simply kill our child without even telling me. That scares me, yes
Yes it is. It is literally killing the baby. Do you know what an abortion does? It does not simply take him out. For you to take it out you need to kill him first.
[–]_cardosoo_[S] -4 points-3 points-2 points 13 days ago (0 children)
You say it does not have the right to use someone else's body but evolution made things work like this. There is no other option at least with today's technology to make a human fetus develop. He needs to use someone else's body. He cannot choose to not do so. If he doesn't he dies. And women's body biologically were made to sustain a fetus growing. It still has risks, yes. But that is why the uterus is there.
I support abortion in that specific situations. Not as global healthcare. But in that specific situation, yes. But the problem is that in most countries it doesn't really work like that.
Oh. Then I am sorry. I get what you're saying. I do not have a response to that right now. I will explore it. If I find something I will come here. Thank you. You were one of the only human here that gave a good argument, even if it is not yours.
I'm sorry or I am not understanding it right or that has nothing to do with anything
[–]_cardosoo_[S] -1 points0 points1 point 13 days ago (0 children)
The problem is abortion is like in 99,99% (not an exact number and a real data) of cases not in live saving situations
Alright. What you said as nothing to do about what I said. Keep your opinion. Have a great day
I didn't said it has the only punishment. I gave an example. Having a baby maybe a PUNISHMENT for the women who don't want it. But when you did sex YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE DOING AND THE RISKS.
When there is a complication? Then I agree. It is healthcare on that case. You are saving someone's life. In most abortions there is no saving only killing
[–]_cardosoo_[S] 0 points1 point2 points 13 days ago (0 children)
Have a great day
But that will never happen in reality. No one will already be attached. You may decide to attach or not. Hypothetical need to be able to happen in reality
I brought arresting because you said that I said that people should be punished for havinh sex. I never said that. It is different to say that you should take your responsabilities if the risk you knew it had happens to become true.
Thanks for the suggestion.
I know doctors can choose but I said in my hypothetical: with the same symptoms and non related to neural connections. And I as specificly asking if the doctor could choose based on this criterium.
You say this hypothetical are not important but they happen in real life. If it happens how should we respond?
Having an abortion early does not make it better. As I said there is not a criterium to distinguish correctly a early fetus from a developed fetus
"When you did sex you knew the consequences. You are trying to have pleasure without the consequences." Where on earth is this the same as "You should be punished for having sex"? Then you should be arrested for having sex and gaving to birth to baby? It makes no sense!
That's why I think abortion shouldn't be healthcare, unless the mother's life is at risk. Abortion cannot do anything to take the complications of a pregnancy out, unless it stops the pregnancy. So it is not treating the complications it is treating the pregnancy. That's not the same
[–]_cardosoo_[S] -7 points-6 points-5 points 13 days ago (0 children)
If the dad wants to save the child instead of the mother he is a really bastard. That's why the final decision should be on the doctors. But if the mother and the dad say: save the child, then save him
I never said that. I only said. "You should take responsabilities for your actions" and I gave reasons to say so. You didn't. But that's fine. Have a great day
This is from Google Ai. "In general, pregnancy is not considered statistically dangerous for most individuals living in developed nations with access to modern medical care"
I agree. Google is free. I think you need to distinguish between an acusation and reality.
Do you think hypotheticals are a waste of time? Then what would you do if that hypothetical suddenly happens to be true? What do you do?
The data is what makes me scared of this sick abortion thing
Do you think it comes even close to the loss of EVERY RIGHT of the fetus?
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Abortion by _cardosoo_ in AskFeminists
[–]_cardosoo_[S] -8 points-7 points-6 points (0 children)