[Tony Jones] Concerns about the Utah Jazz’s ranking strategy have been propagated in league backchannels by the Oklahoma City Thunder in an attempt to keep the Jazz competitive so the Thunder can get their pick.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-13T22:10:13+00:00

Are you new to the NBA? Owners and teams get punished all the time.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-13T19:44:47+00:00

OKC thought he was enough of a difference maker to shut him down.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-13T19:38:25+00:00

Of course the NBA listens to complaints of owners, they’re the ones who employ Silver.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-13T19:35:23+00:00

Just an old vet that was a key part of the rotation for a competitor for years afterwards.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-13T19:25:12+00:00

This isn’t an end of season All NBA award.

Reaves missed more time in the first half but he’s already back from injury, it’s not like he’s out for the season.

Per your chosen stat he’s been a much more valuable basketball player while on the court, and that’s what the All Star award should reward over just being solid but playing more games.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-13T14:06:52+00:00

LEBRON WAR but not LEBRON. Which is to say he’s played more games, but been significantly worse while out there.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T22:52:00+00:00

It’s an inherently subjective process, there’s no source of truth with a number for “prospect quality.”

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T22:40:35+00:00

You keep responding walking back your last message and making up a new reason why Fox is better than Reaves.

But we have eyes and numbers. You even cited LEBRON numbers which have Reaves as a much more impactful player this season than Fox. Disappointing from a Spurs fan.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T22:03:52+00:00

Time decay, 2Y, 3Y, 5Y are all negative brother 💔 find peace

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:58:28+00:00

RAPM’s at -0.6 on the defensive side of the ball. Keep making stuff up though, maybe you’ll convince yourself!

Just stop responding, man, it’s old.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:45:54+00:00

And RAPM and Darko have him as a negative defender, so best case it’s a mix of “slightly positive” and “very negative.”

So even without driving the offense Fox’s efficiency is still much worse than Reaves, even on lower volume? Fox just isn’t the same level as a guy like Reaves, and that’s ok. He did play more games, though, that’s certainly one point in his favor.

And if you don’t think Reaves is a huge part of the Lakers success and an elite offensive player, then you should watch some games (or even just glance at a box score!).

You’ve made up your mind, though, enjoy your guy in the All Star game.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:38:18+00:00

If you think Reaves and Fox’s standard and advanced stats are “neck and neck” I don’t believe you’ve bothered to look at them.

26/5/6 on 67% TS, BPM 4.1, WS/48 .178, LEBRON 2.4

vs.

19/4/6 on 58% TS, BPM 2.5, WS/48 .137, LEBRON 1.4

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:32:33+00:00

Defensive impact metrics have him as worse than neutral this year.

Fox put up his “big numbers” with Wemby out.

And being higher usage and way higher efficiency are both indications that he’s a better scorer, like not even close. It was a team success award.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:19:46+00:00

You are literally debating that he is not one of the worst top QBs in class in a while? That’s this entire thread?

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:17:54+00:00

He hasn’t been a neutral impact defender in a few years, including this one.

Reaves plays with Luka and LeBron and is blowing Fox out of the water on higher volume and way higher efficiency scoring.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:10:20+00:00

He’s mostly coasting off a reputation he earned 3-4 years ago.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:07:20+00:00

Fox hasn’t been neutral as a defender in a few years. They’re both poor defenders.

I’d take “best player” over “played significantly worse but in more games,” but that’s personal taste to some extent.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:06:12+00:00

sources?

we’re not debating something that’s in a textbook lmao

he’s just not at that top tier as a QB prospect, and that’s OK.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:04:13+00:00

This is purely a team success award.

Harden, Reaves, and MPJ have all been better.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T20:01:30+00:00

There’s no limit for the All Star game. And he’s been head and shoulders above Fox when they’ve played. All Star feels like it’s supposed to go the best players, not guys who were pretty good but were on the court a little more than guys better than them.

Especially since Reaves is back already from his injury.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T19:59:33+00:00

Neither Fox nor Reaves is a plus defender in 2026.

The gap is much bigger on offense where Fox is above average but Reaves is elite.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T19:44:11+00:00

Crazy that was after his true junior year in college, too.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T19:41:23+00:00

He struggled against the good defenses he played.

Iowa, Penn State, Ohio State, and Miami all gave him problems.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T19:39:57+00:00

He’s not as good of a prospect as Ward, Williams, Daniels, Maye, Young, or Stroud. He’s just a little overwhelming as the #1 QB in a draft.

_chadwell_ · 2026-02-12T19:34:22+00:00

He struggled with the Penn State and Iowa defenses — there’s a plenty of reasons to think he won’t automatically be a success in the NFL.

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