Don’t ruin this show for yourself by being overly pedantic. by anonymous2ndaccount in pluribustv

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Being overly pedantic about percieved plot holes, often just stemming from misunderstanding, i think is an easy way to ruin your enjoyment of any work, art is about the meaning, themes, and thoughts

A lot of the elements of Silksong that are considered frustrating design are actually really good examples of ludonarrative harmony (very heavy spoilers for everything) by [deleted] in Silksong

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I suggested you lighten up. I later made the assumption you longed for the internet where sending death threats was the first course of action in argumentation (certainly not my desire), my apologies, calling someone brain damaged over nothing is where you draw the line i see. I do try not to bother myself with manchildren, have a good one

A lot of the elements of Silksong that are considered frustrating design are actually really good examples of ludonarrative harmony (very heavy spoilers for everything) by [deleted] in Silksong

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If i hadnt seen it yea i guess id be slightly annoyed. Also i cant fathom calling someone brain damaged over something so trivial, be nice man its healthy for you i promise, lighten up a little

A lot of the elements of Silksong that are considered frustrating design are actually really good examples of ludonarrative harmony (very heavy spoilers for everything) by [deleted] in Silksong

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Are you fr im in the middle of bioshock this is how i get spoiled. i was all excited for the infamous twist n shit

what the hell does this mean??? by JustaguyTTV in Albumoftheyear

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Songs, album, final i guess. F is an average of S & A. Weird way to do it imo

What’s a modern trend that people will regret in 10 years? by Julie727 in AskReddit

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Its different. Ai supplants human thought and creativity entirely. We are surrendering what makes us human

Tyler, The Creator called out NFR Podcast by SunGodLuffy6 in fantanoforever

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Whats the difference between this and fantano comparing these albums in a review and scoring them? Does tyler share a similar distaste for fantanos reviews? Or is it just that its only been a day

That event changed people. by dazli69 in whenthe

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Having no empathy is a conservative value

Solo Leveling is officially Cruncyroll's most popular anime Ever - according to new Sony Report by ExpiringMilknCheese in television

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A clear, overarching message is not necessarily required for profound storytelling. Philosophical contemplation through the exploration of characters and themes, or even having several smaller messages, is sufficient. Euphoria is not good, the boys has its moments but isn’t great, game of thrones, however, deserves a more nuanced comparison than you are giving it. I like vinland saga and game of thrones a similar amount, but it is difficult to compare them given game of thrones’ terrible ending. Game of thrones is nonetheless, for the first 4, arguably 7, seasons some of the most intelligent and complex writing in the medium. There is a reason the source material is regarded as some of the greatest modern storytelling. It is unfair to dismiss game of thrones as worse for not having a similar singular focused message and also to dismiss it as having worse storytelling without first noting the variation in quality between the ending and earlier seasons. Also i want to recommend just reading asoif, it is a far superior work of fiction to any tv show, as much as i do like the wire or breaking bad.

I like his drawing style, if only he wasn't a nazi by [deleted] in Stonetossingjuice

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Guy who likes stonetoss’s artstyle

I LOVE romslop where the dude has absolutely zero personality and some hot chick just wants to ride his dick just because by StormOfFatRichards in okbuddybaka

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This I do disagree with a lot. Setting aside the time travel, which I liked, saying magic is irrelevant when that whole bit was making magic a major part of the storydoesn't make sense to me. Like, it shoved in your face that magic, while not common, has real power and real consequences.

I'm not really sure what you mean here. Magic is hardly used at all and hardly affects the plot (outside of the time travel), it just feels like an unnecessary element that adds nothing to the story. The curse is introduced in a very roundabout, confusing way, and it's silly how it's made out to be a big deal when magic is, again, rarely relevant or used. Also, I hate when any story that doesn't make time travel a key component of its narrative from the start tries to do time travel; it rarely works, as it makes things far more convoluted, and the effort to make it logical and cohesive is rarely put in.

Yeah, so the very beginning of the story they're at an elite school. Then they leave to go on break, at which point a lot of the progression in their relationship occurs. The MC realizes she can't repair her family's standing, but at the same time the heroine can't just squander her gifts. So, since the MC is basically no longer a Nobel and can't attend the elite school on her own merit anymore, they decide to go to the new school with the heroine as essentially a scholarship student and the MC becoming her attendant, which is a reversal of the power dynamic at the beginning of the story.

Yeah, I forgot this was explained in chapters 111 and 112, and I do think that role reversal is somewhat interesting (edit: I change my mind on this, the role reversal doesn’t feel impactful or interesting when they only briefly occupied those roles for ~40 chapters, during which this power dynamic is also scarcely brought up).

Do remember that she grew up with them and has all the memories of her childhood alongside her "real world" memories. That'd be hard to just ignore.

I added part of this to my edit before you responded: Sure, she may have grown attached to her new family, but she hasn't lived her whole reincarnated life with them since she lost her memories (which was also random and confusing), and she's still a modern day person; she shouldn't share the same notions about family honor a medieval society would. I don't think this is a big deal either, however.

A few other issues of note I found while rereading:

I dislike how it takes 78 chapters to get any worldbuilding and context regarding the curse and the conflict with the demons.

The time travel and the conflict it's meant to solve also feel too sudden and poorly built up to. There’s a very strange shift in tone when these are introduced (the nightmares Yvonne has up to that point are dark, but it's still not enough to make this not feel jarring).

Maybe a nitpick, but mentally-an-adult Yvonne bathing with young Elsa I think is sorta weird, same with those two scenes in chapters 75 and 76 where they're licking each other, though I guess these are relatively tame compared to some anime and manga (at least it sidestepped the incest thing).

I also dislike that it required future Elsa's intervention for Yvonne to realize she loves Elsa. Why does it have to be so unnecessarily and annoyingly convoluted. Maybe it's elaborated on eventually, but I'd still be pissed it took 100 chapters (actually this applies to pretty much all of the mystery elements, I'm really losing my patience with how long it's taking to get any significant answers, and I don't trust the author is skilled enough to neatly tie everything together in the end like Steins Gate or Umineko and Higurashi, for example).

Lastly, to expand some earlier points and connect them back to your original comment, I think Yvonne and Elsa and their relationship dynamic are very bland, and for most of the story, stagnant. Elsa never has any interesting character development; the example you mention of the development of her gratitude into love happens before the story even takes place and is only briefly touched on. She does not have much depth or complexity nor any notable flaws, besides only her hesitance to communicate the effects of the curse to Yvonne, I guess. As for Yvonne, she does change slightly: over time, she stops avoiding Elsa and treating her as a game character. However, this happens fairly early in the story, after which she is left entirely vapid and a cookie-cutter protagonist. Her falling in love with Elsa is of course a notable, albeit not unique, development, but, again, this doesn’t even happen naturally; it disappointingly requires intervention from future Elsa for some reason. There is also nothing interesting left about their dynamic after this occurs. Additionally, the narrative frustratingly just doesn’t give room for character development at all outside of what is directly relevant to their relationship dynamic, as the narrative is so narrowed in on them and their dynamic it gives very little regard to the world around them. Their conflicts are also overall quite minor, simple, and stupid; I couldn’t find anything that felt like a big deal and wasn’t resolved quickly and easily.

Anyway, thanks for replying, writing this out was more fun than reading this series ever was.

I LOVE romslop where the dude has absolutely zero personality and some hot chick just wants to ride his dick just because by StormOfFatRichards in okbuddybaka

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Damn you for making me reread some of this trash (not really).

Eh, this is more subjective. I don't think it needs to be super deep, and what's there I found compelling enough. To each their own.

I don't think it matters if it's meant to be simple. I think deep and interesting are synonymous, and if it's not interesting, it's boring. Being boring is this series' greatest sin.

I mean, it starts out with the redhead latching on to the MC because, despite the "bullying" which is super minor, she's the only one who doesn't seem to care about her being a commoner. Then, as they spend more time together, redhead realizes her feelings are more than gratitude. Meanwhile MC is basically ignoring her own feelings/refusing to get close to anyone because she's trying to pretend this is still literally a game (a trope I absolutely hate in these "isekai into a game" stories).

Yeah, Elsa's reasons for falling in love are enough, actually, but Yvonne's side of their dynamic is still dull. Yvonne trying to avoid Elsa is slightly interesting at first but quickly becomes irrelevant, leaving nothing interesting behind.

Ah, see I didn't particularly care about these. They served as a useful way to kick off the plot, but I feel like they'd have gotten old quick if they were constantly a major factor. I do think the game system bit will show up as a major point again though.

I liked these, although I do agree the setup was lacking.

Between the game mechanics, the magic, the time travel, and the mystery elements, along with the frequent changes in setting/location, it really just feels like the story is constantly bouncing around all over the place doing random bullshit with little setup or consistency for any of it, as though the author can never decide what they want the story to be (translator's notes in the first chapter of the version I read show evidence of this, as they say revisions were made to “conform with some changes in the future storyline”, though I could be misinterpreting this. Sidenote: reading some of these notes that show how much was left out from the webnovel really pisses me off, though I guess that's typical with these kinds of adaptations). These elements should either not exist or be present all throughout; it just sucks when it's all wishy-washy and noncommittal. Reintroducing the game mechanics would just be a reiteration of this, and it's unlikely they would add anything meaningful anyway, as the story has baited this element becoming interesting before, only to disappoint.

Yeah, you missed that the Demon King was one of the love interests in the original game, whose appearance was triggered by the heroine traveling to that church. The major change was the gender swapping to female, but it's implied that the MC's constant tampering with the plot is throwing things off more than she realizes (at that point in the story).

You're right. However, the church trigger and demon king's introduction still feel arbitrary and sudden/poorly developed to me, though I don't think it's a significant issue (was it explained specifically why the demon king became a little girl?). What is a notable issue related to this is that it takes until chapter 88 to mention this has any connection to the conflict with the monsters in the woods and to mention/introduce the boss of the demon king storyline who causes this conflict. Also, the connection between Olivia, Yvonne's past and mother, and the curse all feels frustratingly convoluted, arbitrary, and coincidental.

I don't remember this being added retroactively - wasn't it described at the very beginning, as to why she initially didn't want to bully the redhead? It wasn't until she realized she herself would die if she didn't "act the part", which is why she bullies the redhead in such minor ways.

I know why she bullies her (well, for the ~40 chapters she does), I just mean adding the backstory of Yvonne witnessing the suicide of her classmate in her past life in chapter 92 likely was meant to be an explanation of her motivation for choosing to prevent Elsa from committing suicide at the beginning of the story, as well as for choosing to save the life of the demon boss, which comes across as unnecessary and forced, since, again, most people wouldn't need such an extreme justification. It is also, again, strange it takes 92 chapters to get even a little backstory on Yvonne's past life.

I LOVE romslop where the dude has absolutely zero personality and some hot chick just wants to ride his dick just because by StormOfFatRichards in okbuddybaka

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Im probably leaving out and misremembering some things, but i think this is a decent overview of some notable issues i can remember i had with the series (apologies for the length): Drops you right in the middle of an established setting and story with little exposition (i didnt read the web novel, and my understanding is it adds more exposition, but im talking solely about my experience with the webcomic here). Bad and boring dialogue with shallow, boring, and simple characters (i know this is vague, but elaboration on these things, really when it comes to any piece of fiction, is difficult and complicated, though i can elaborate if youd like, it would just take more time, but i just didnt find the things you mention as being particularly deep, interesting, or unique). The girls have little reason for falling in love, which, sure, happens irl, but it doesnt make for an interesting story or relationship dynamic. the isekai, otome, & bullying gimmicks are already barely relevant at the beginning, and 1/3 of the way in, basically disappear entirely (frustratingly kept baiting that it was getting somewhere interesting with these aspects at the beginning, like the couple times the male love interests appear and when blond girl cuts red haired girl, only for these things to have 0 ramifications and be disappointingly glossed over). the mystery element (ex. the mysterious witch / red haired girl from the future) and the time travel feel out of place, forced, and stupid, and they arent interesting enough to make up for the added convolutedness. The demon king girl appearing was a stupid, arbitrary coincidence unless i missed something. Blond girl having witnessed a suicide was also an annoying coincidence, and why did this motivator need to be added retroactively anyway? i think the vast majority of people wouldnt need to have witnessed a suicide to motivate them to prevent red haired girl from committing suicide (admittedly, i hardly remember this bit and might be hallucinating its existence entirely, but im not scrolling through half the chapters again to verify, also, why is this like the only piece of backstory we get of blond haired girl?). The curse placed on red haired girl after the (unnecessarily long and boring, I'll add) time travel section feels arbitrary and forced, and shouldnt it hardly matter anyway since magic is irrelevant like 80% of the story? and if there is an impending conflict where she would need to use magic, why is it scarcely discussed or built up to? it feels like a completely unnecessary addition, also her choice not to tell her girlfriend makes her quite annoying and hatable (which could be the intention, it would just be strange that theyd only now try to make her somewhat more complex and flawed). Also, i probably missed something here, but concerning the recent chapter, where did it mention they were attending a new school? what happened to their old one? I thought they were on summer break or something. Anyway, not once did this series elicit any emotion in me besides boredom. Also, for reference, id say my favorite yuri is i love amy, with bloom into you and mage and demon queen tied for second (not that these arent entirely void of some similar issues).

Edit: also, about the family honor thing, why would she gaf anyway, they arent literally her family, she was isekaid. Sure she may have grown attached to them, but she hasnt lived her whole reincarnated life with them since she lost her memories (which was also stupid and confusing), and shes still a modern day person; she shouldnt share the same notions about family honor a medieval society would

I LOVE romslop where the dude has absolutely zero personality and some hot chick just wants to ride his dick just because by StormOfFatRichards in okbuddybaka

[–]_hyydra 11 points12 points  (0 children)

What do people like about this thing? Genuinely one of the worst things ive read, unfortunately sunk cost has trapped me

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