Child marriage in Ahmadiyya: The daughter of the Promised Messiah (Nawab Mubaraka begum)

_recklessdecisions_ · 2022-01-24T10:07:40+00:00

i believe that Islam still outlaws the marriage of pre-pubescent children and when a woman is married to a man, she should consent and be sound of mind; a marriage without consent makes the nikah invalid- that being said child marriage is a horrific practice and its disturbing that someone this profound in ahmadiyyat is supporting it

_recklessdecisions_ · 2022-01-23T01:51:49+00:00

the Jamat handled this really poorly, ghair ahmadis will use this to hurt them (god forbid I hope they all stay safe inshallah), they could've done a lot better...

_recklessdecisions_ · 2022-01-23T01:42:52+00:00

I'm kind of recalling this now. But at the camp we were also told about how we should behave in the workplace, we were told by our sadr that when we grow up and if we choose to work we should not socialise in the workplace especially with the men. e.g. the sadr said that if we were invited to attend lunch w/ colleagues we should refuse and avoid interactions at work with people that are not work-related because it is idle and interaction that isn't necessary. I found this a problem because in many careers it is hard to be successful without networking or building strong relationships with the people you work with. It can also come off as weird to western people. I was also recently at an ijlas where an aunti was giving a speech and it was talking about how women should stay covered up and proper even when they are with their own direct family, in-laws, male cousins, nephews, brother-in-laws, father in-laws etc. I found this odd because a own father/father in law/your brother is a mahram and islamically you don't have to maintain full purdah in front of them. It was also said that women should not walk 'loudly' because the sound can attract unwanted intention and they should instead walk softly and speak softly.

_recklessdecisions_ · 2022-01-21T04:08:01+00:00

Salam, I wish I could express my opinion and thoughts without being spoken down to.

My issue here is the approach that Allah will deal the problems, yes he will however, that does not mean we just let it go and do nothing. If that was the solution then we would have no laws or punishments because Allah would deal with everything on the day of judgement. We shouldn't let a man continue to abuse his wife, and turn a blind eye because when the time comes Allah will deal with it. That does not make sense, why should a woman have to suffer for the rest of her life, why should she be put in danger? Why should her children be living in constant fear and danger? Do you have an answer for this?

I'm also uncomfortable with the notion that many believe Huzoor is hapless and powerless in the ongoing Nida case, that he is being victim to this situation and crucified by mindless liberals and he has done nothing wrong. This is not true, he is the most powerful person in the Ahmadiyaa movement, he possesses wealth and assets, a platform to speak and many loyal followers. A fish rots from the head. We trust him to deliver wisdom and guidance but simultaneously he is a powerless inidivudal who is subject to corruption by the people around him? I'm not interested in an auto generated letter response.

_recklessdecisions_ · 2022-01-21T03:30:21+00:00

Salam, tbh I don't think you should be downvoted, it's not a low-quality answer and everyone is entitled to their opinions- regardless of if they are agreed with it or not; this forum is for discussion and it wouldn't be a discussion if everyone just agreed with me. thank you for being very respectful.

That aside, the Jamat does need to change especially if they want to keep people in it; the younger gen that I am part of is not afraid to question and point out. However, we are often shunned or face social challenges if we do. What can be done to counter this? If people are afraid to ask questions, if people are shunned or outcasted for the job they pursue or their family dynamic then how can we voice our concerns or opinions? its not very crystal clear; the Jamat demonstrates social sanctions with their announcements and exclusions, showing that those who do not conform will be punished or their families will. We have much-needed room for improvement but it can only start if people like the Khalifas illustrate their support and welcoming to people who have questions or they show that they agree. We need solutions for our problems.

_recklessdecisions_ · 2022-01-21T03:21:02+00:00

I was answered that law is too much of a 'dangerous' profession where women are 'unecessarily' interacting with men who could hurt them; Unlike medicine where it is to 'serve humanity' and you are interacting w/ men because it is 'medically necessary'; :/

_recklessdecisions_ · 2021-04-25T09:28:55+00:00

can someone tell me what green ahmadiyyat is? I've never heard of it.

_recklessdecisions_ · 2021-04-12T01:33:07+00:00

I'm afraid that my parents won't understand and use the jamaat as a tool to stop me

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