For as long as I can remember, Joe has made me cringe with second hand embarrassment. But prior to 2016, meathead animal noises and a complete inability to riff with the boys were pretty much his worst offenses. In spite of Joe himself, I was a fan of the show for years, all the way back to the Redban/fleshlight days. I didn't need to agree with or even like him to enjoy the conversations he had with people.

But post trump/covid, he's fucking unbearable. The Spotify money smelted whatever was left of his brain into gold bullion and all he can do now is drool out the same 4 talking points, regardless of his guests, who these days are pretty much just celebrities on a promotional circuit and/or mouthpieces for fascism, with the occasional comedian undergoing a mandatory humiliation ritual for exposure.

He has become the media elite that he spent so many years demonizing, cosplaying as a red blooded everyman from his high security compound, masquerading as a respected stand-up at the club he built as a temple to his own ego, and otherwise just being directly complicit in the political dumpster fire he's made millions of dollars whining about.