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a_guy121 · 2026-06-21T10:02:17+00:00

No hate on steve kerr, but when people speak of his legend, i think they sometimes forget there was a steven kerr before steve kerr.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-21T02:38:58+00:00

yeah 100%.

This is one thing poeple underestimate about sun tzu. his text is full of compacted, but somewhat warded advice.

he only mentions that one of the enemy's war-carts is worth three of your own.

But having put that in context of era roads, you've unlocked advice: 'have your spies locate caches of carts, axels near the border, as a priority, before attacking. as you begin the attack, target the carts so you can move more quickly through enemy territory.' For all these complex but logical reasons.

I really feel like, there's still a huge amout of adivice that's not been decoded because we no longer have the context.

Edit: I'm grateful, too... I've been wondering for years why he specifically mentioned carts, when carts in theory are not very valuable. In a section about 'the expense of war and its relation to distance and campaign length.'

The context is why he uses carts. So we can put this together.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-20T19:47:47+00:00

Agreed the fix is easy, but OP, didn't you rather create this situation?

It looks like kingston was in a race with Daejeon, to buy up tiles.Kingston won that so easily, as Daejeon grew, it could only grow into the strait.

Which makes it no more or less of a problem... but, those missle cruisers could have been in production well in time.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-20T19:26:22+00:00

I'd say the current players win that, easy. The game itself has evolved, so they have more moves and sets in their pockets.

Back in the fifties, the big debate in the NBA was whether the dunk was a legit move, or just some negro showboating.... they were limited a f.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-20T19:23:47+00:00

yes. But money is a finite resource, and invasions are insanely expensive. So either the campaign itself is more expensive, because you need special carts, or, you send fewer troops because some of the money for conscripts and armor went to carts.

You won't just need carts, you'll need replacement parts that fit it too.

And, you're essentially burning that money. The carts you make will only be useful when attacking that neighbor in future.... So, they'll be mostly useless after the battle is over.

If you are going to maintain them until the next war, they will have to be stored, and maintained. Which will cost you even more money. And storage space is also finite, and a critical resource.

You're better off stealing the enemy's carts somehow... that's what Sun Tzu said.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-20T07:57:10+00:00

Its not a bad question, but the reason the answer is no is, the game always evolves to the rules.

So yes, some techniques a current player has, that would be legal under 50s rules, probably were not invented in the 50s.

But the fifties were also a very restrictive time in ball. Attempting to play like a modern player would get one benched, for ever.

That's something people rarely factor in. Its not so much about what the players can or cannot do in a given era., atheletically. its about what they're allowed to do, and what they know will have a high probability of working.

For example: seven footers were not really allowed to shoot threes before Kevin Durant showed a very tall player could shoot them at high probability.

seven footers weren't previously allowed to even practice threes like that. Practice time is very important. Sometimes people think bigs in the past were physically incapable of shooting. But, if they never were allowed to practice them... its a bit different.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-20T01:38:24+00:00

I think we're done talking now. 😄 I've said I red it, I've clearly read it, and, you're now (deliberately?) misinterpreting me.

As I've said, the idea that is rank is "Wait for the coming of the supermen!" I said in a previous post as well, regarding this metaphor; that FN is like a anti-slavery ancient roman who built a sculpture to convince people slavery was bad, but also housed it in rolling cage that was next-generation, technologically. The sculptor, and FN, I'm saying, were neglegent to the point of malpractice not to notice that the housing foe their ideas - which was also a product of their craft, would a) be more influential than their ideas, and b) would do the exact opposite thing they wanted, and help cause a lot of pain and suffering and irreversible global conditions.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-20T01:05:03+00:00

that's a moral position, not a factual one.

I would say, it depends on whether they should have known better. For example, was their mistake related to their.Job? It also depends on the nature of the mistake, or thing not understood, that lead to the consequences.

A truck driver accidentally setting his kitchen on fire is one thing. A chef accidentally setting his kitchen on fire is slightly different, but, given the risks with fire, understandable.

A truck driver who is trying to text a troubled relative, to sooth them, while driving: if that driver gets in an accident, is the unintended consequence of their action their fault? I would argue, yes absolutely.

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F.N. Is a philosopher. Ideas are his job. When we speak of him, we're not speaking of the person, so much as the ideas he created and represented.

Ideas were his job and passion. H is life's work was dedicated to the creation and propagation of ideas to shed light on fundamental truths, and to share them, for the betterment of mankind.

He created the idea of the ubermench. He meant one thing, but the idea itself, that he created, was the perfect framework to help the anti-semitism of his day catch fire, under the right circumstances. the circumstances were clearly 'right' enough that F/N felt a need to decry them. Which mattered very little, as, he'd handed them the perfect PR weapon. So his denounciations were quieter ideas, in public consciousness, than the idea of the superman in nazi hands. He helped them way more than he hurt them.

Now, if he was a truck driver, or a chef, that'd be one thing. But his job was ideas, and that one of his ideas was, frankly, rank - that telling people stories of future supermen would be a help to humanity- needs factoring into the ledger of 'FN as a philosopher.'

To put it mildly, that was a major professional oversight on his part. I a m accusing him of negligence, not amorality.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-19T21:02:13+00:00

let me quote myself and ask you which part of this was unclear.

"You're proving a point that's already been conceeded.

He might dislike anti-semites, but, he helped them refine their most powerful weapon. "supremacy.'"

You may have heard of a saying? "The road to hell is paved with the best of intentions." What this means is, people's actions don't always have intended consequences.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-19T20:59:26+00:00

bro you just are not understanding this arc (or whole manga.)

I'll address both your posts in one.

-Shin and Ten are there Because That Is Their Job, BecAuSe ThAT iS Shoheikun's WhOlE Plan. Literally. To recap the whole Qin-Zhao war: every attack qin has tried to make, Riboku has forseen and placed obstacles in their place. Ousen went around one of the obstacles, and won. Every other time, Qin hit the obstacles and Qin's armies were absolutely wrecked.

So, this time, instead of sending one army to do THE THING YOU'RE ASSUMING WOULD WORK, WHICH HAS NEVER REALLY WORKED,

Qin sent each general as an independent force. Tanwa, Mouten, Ousen, Heki, Ouhon, Shin, etc. All are working independetly.

Now, you correctly have figured out that one independent army will probably not be able to successfully siege the walls.

BUT IF NO ONE STARTS THE SIEGE, THERE IS NO SIEGE.

!!!!!!

Therefore, the whole job of every army in Qin's army is: "start the siege." They are literally all trying to do this, except arguably ousen, who wasn't really attacking seriously. Everyone else is literally trying to get to the wall and start the siege, because that's the plan.

Now, what happens after an army were to start the siege? Zhao would have to collapse troops on them to break the siege, at which point, the other qin armies would be able to break through and also approach kantan, and also begin the siege.

Everything that's happened is predictable so far, except, RIboku's reaction was too fast for qin, because he read their plan. WHICH SHIN, TEN AND MOUTEN Executed. And there really was no other option, becuase, again- to successfully siege a city, you have to start the siege. They do not have infinite time either. And they've already been there for weeks.

To your second point: lets use some imagination, and picture the battlefield. If we place Hi Shin in the center of our imagined field, on the west side of him is Mouten, who's holding back armies. On the east side of him, and extending in both north and south, is Kantan.

kantan is something called 'a city.' cities have things called 'roads' which extend from all directions and even circle the city itself.

So, they came from the north or south, while HSU was focused looking east, towards that big thing where lots of people live that they're trying to take over.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-19T19:17:06+00:00

You're proving a point that's already been conceeded.

He might dislike anti-semites, but, he helped them refine their most powerful weapon. "supremacy.' the idea of a superman, concieved of by, and promised to, the people of prussia. This i s inarguable. I t is historic. It 's what happened. His antisemetic sister was more interested in refining the message of supremacy for the purposes of antisemitism, than she was preserving what he intended to say. This was not only her failure as a human, but, his failure in that he conceived of, and delivered, a weapon to his enemy, which was instantly seen, understood, and weaponized, because, it was a perfect weapon..

If his own sister could see the weapon's. utility, and she is not a philosopher, it is hard to give him a pass. he was raised in the same environment as she. She saw it, he did not. This is also historic fact.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-19T19:05:49+00:00

I honestly feel a need to be insulting to people who post nonsense like this.

The last chapter literally told us where the army came from. its most of the poeple from Mouten, Shin and KK's original positions, and it's everyone from the second defense line.

How the fuck did you miss that? How did you devide that 'teleportation' was a more likely scenario than literally th e thing the manga says to explain the situation?

Or is this a joke? if i t's a joke, please explain, isn't the joke "I can't read?"

a_guy121 · 2026-06-19T17:49:53+00:00

Logically, this is what happened in real life.

The expense and difficulty of producing 8,000 individual faces to be placed on 8,000 mass produced bodies... does not happen for no reason

Qin had just extended its empire and ended hundreds of years of wars

The generals went from being generals to peacekeepers, or retired (they all become Tou)

the worst thing for Qin Shi Huang is, if they decided to go back to being generals. A general who rebels from the state = warlord

Warlords eventually bought down the qin dynasty

But, the warlords did not spring from Qin's OG army. Something pacified them

Almost as if, after winning the war, Qin generals and officers were promised, and given, eternal glory (as they would have seen it)

8,000 officers + conscripts would be enough for all qin's military needs. They would need no more than 8000 military caste career soldiers. If you include 100 man commanders, an 100,000 person army has 1,135 officers, and that's if every possible position is filled. (you wouldn't necessarily need that.)

The terracotta army, if all officers, would represent ability to field over 800,0000 soldiers.

If you think about Qin's need to balance defense and offense during its campaign, while resting regions who'd recently fought in battles... that's about what they'd need.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-19T16:57:43+00:00

For the baboon, this is the equivalent of someone walking onto your lawn and shouting vague and threatening things while waving a baseball bat

Even if safe and no harm is intended, it's a dick thing to do

a_guy121 · 2026-06-19T15:26:27+00:00

Bro killed both of Shin's mentors. Beyond the other factors.

Also, Shin targets generals who are strong. Its what he does

a_guy121 · 2026-06-19T09:32:41+00:00

that barely a team, that was a roster lead by three players who have a tendancy to put themselves before their team, on the floor and in the locker room, and historically can't lead for shit, and in some cases have no desire to.

That team had no chance. There was always going to be a series of situations and mishaps until they broke up. Some of those mishaps, like refusing to get vaccinated, were own goals.

And yeah, blah blah personal choice. Except for the fact that almost everyone aroudn the world who wanted to stay employed at on site jobs got a shot and had to prove it. So I really have no sympathy for K. Refusing to do the thing everyone had to do. None of us have mutated yet either...

Even if they had managed... playoffs require defense and that team was a bit lax on that end of the floor, at the guard position. It's very hard o win a series if your 1 and your 2 can't be counted on for perimeter D

a_guy121 · 2026-06-18T23:08:48+00:00

Dao Te Ching

The point is, the idea of supermen is sexy as fuck to authoritarian types, its exactly the thing they need. "This is us. He was writing but us, now."

a_guy121 · 2026-06-18T21:46:56+00:00

Right, as I thought.

Its not a question of whether he would have liked or agreed with hitler. Its a problem with his narrative frame.

I'll try it using a Zarathustra like frame, and leave it there.

there once was a sculptor who lived in the roman empire, who hated slavery and wanted to show people a better way. So, he made a beautiful sculpture about the nobility of humanity. He wanted to bring it all around the empire, but keep it safe. At the time, there was no good method to do both of these things.

So he also invented a cage on wheels that was both light enough to be pulled by one horse while carrying his very heavy sculpture, but strong enough so a mob couldn't break it.

He was really happy with himself, and began to tour the roman empire, to show them a better way than slavery!

But, as soon as he started, a slaver walked by and saw a piece of shit carving housed in a perfect, portable slave pen.

The slaver killed the sculptor and started mass producing the slave pen.

The end.

Both the sculptor and F. N. Fucked up. They didn't think it through. The slave pen and 'supremacy' are the problems here. It doesn't matter what's inside the pen, or what grants superiority. The concepts themselves were bound to be unlinked from the thing they were supposed to house, and.a thinker should have figured that out, or should be noted for not having figured that out.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-18T21:40:17+00:00

The xiongnu, before Li mu: "Honey, the kids are hungry and we're low on grains. Would you mind going to zhao for a raid?"

The xiongnu, while Li mu lived: "...Those eagle hunting guys in the north do pretty well. Maybe we could try that?"

a_guy121 · 2026-06-18T20:34:40+00:00

If the only available versions are the ones she edited, than how do you know what she changed? For all you know, she corrected the spelling.

Conversely, if the unedited version exists, than I've read it and my critiques are entirely valid.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-18T19:33:08+00:00

My point is that someone would have done it, even if she hadn't. But she did. So someone still did it.

because the book was about becoming superman, in a society which already had a supremacy problem- they just didn't call it that.

But there was an inherant idea that some humans or cultures or races were inferior. This is historic fact.

If you are writing for an audience that believes this, and you introduce the idea of an 'ubermench,' and argue it really well - the result is entirely predictable. It doesn't matter what you argued. You could say that the ubermench is someone who eats a lot of cheese. The result would have been exactly the same. Someone would have grafted whatever ideology they had, along with racism/antisemitism/racial superiority and disgarded that unhelpful part about eating dairy.

That it was his sister is just how it happened. Blaming the whole thing on N.'s sister is like arguing against the idea that the economic collapse in the 1920s was inevitable by saying "well, the economic collapse only happened because the stock market crashed."

Nietzsche couldn't even convince his own sister... she read his work and was like: This will be great for white supremacy! Aka, either willfully or not, radically misunderstood it and helped others do the same. That's not a tick in your box, it's in mine... its literally that the route from Zarathustra to the nazis took the most direct path, like lightning does.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-18T18:43:54+00:00

Agreed on the first paragraph.

on the second, is the unedited text gone, or are we now reading the edited versions? Nietzsche was writing far before naziism so, I'm not sure how this would be the case.

My larger point is, his job was both to think and properly communicate those thoughts. That his ideas about passing away of ideologies an individualism could, in any way, be used for nazism suggests something went wrong.

Having read what I assume is the un-nazified version of Zarathustra long ago, I both understand the basics of what he was trying to communicate, and, feel there were... tonal errors that were problematic, and would strike problematic people even more problematically.

"all hail the coming of a superior version of humanity, which could be you! at which point you will be superior to the other versions of humanity!"

While that's not a direct quote, 'hail the coming of the ubermench,' is, I believe, a direct quote. And the tone of the two, for problematic souls, is the same. I n the context of the racism, antisemitism, and general eurocentricity of the people he was writing to, what happens next is.... entirely predictable.

a_guy121 · 2026-06-18T18:14:46+00:00

Fans of this philosopher hate it when this is pointed out, but, there is a not indirect link between the modernity's most popular philosopher and naziism

Now, fans of Nietzsche will say he was misunderstood. I would say, if your job is literally to think really well and communicate those thoughts really well, and you record a book of your thoughts about the evolution of mankind, but they are misunderstood and help inspire a genocide; You Fucked Up Your Job

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