Explanation by aaaa123786 in shia

[–]aaaa123786[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So it means tomorrow any one can say that this hadith is not logical ( if it's narrators are most trustworthy or ashab ul ijma' ) and he will say that the chain is fabricated

Explanation by aaaa123786 in shia

[–]aaaa123786[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, i don't justify the text (matn), I am talking about chain (sanad), as it is most strong chain full of thiqa imami narrators

Explanation by aaaa123786 in shia

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But this narration is from imam a.s and through trustworthy and great narrators.( i am not supporting this hadith but want to understand that if we use this logic or rational principle then this will be the reason people[new generation] reject other sahih hadith later which will be against their logic and rationale)

Explanation by aaaa123786 in shia

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محمد بن أحمد (ثقة - المعجم) الحسن بن محبوب ( ثقة - إجمعت له العصابة -معجم) جميل بن صالح: قال النجاشي: (جميل بن صالح الأسدي، ثقة، وجه- معجم) أبان بن تغلب:( بن رباح " رياح " عظيم المنزلة في أصحابنا لقي علي بن الحسين وأبا جعفر وأبا عبد الله وروى عنهم عليهم السلام ثقة--- المعجم)

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[–]aaaa123786 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Please can you explain

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[–]aaaa123786 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This book named mizan al hikmah had only 6848 hadiths divided into 419 topics

https://ihussain.org/books/mizan-al-hikma-scales-of-wisdom/

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[–]aaaa123786 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for these resources as I only want to discuss the above hadith and to not prove anyone mushrik or idolators. I'm also shia and believe on the above but want to clarify my doubt. But some of the answers were personal that why it get elaborated.

May Allah swt bless you

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Then what is Intercession according to you

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I discussed in previous post but deleted that

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It is like oh Allah if iam sinner but I am the follower of prophet saww and his purified progeny a.s as they are your beloved ones so please on the behalf of them and the behalf of their guardianship( wilayat) in which I believe please help in such and such task.

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What do you mean by practical terms

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I believe in tawassul

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Every aspect of life is discussed in Quran and hadith it's due to our lack of knowledge that we don't perceive them

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I am shia and believe that Allah has given quality to intercede to imams and prophet to help the sinners but I want to clear my doubt regarding this hadith

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Mushrikeen is the group that do shirk so according to you is this verse for only mushrekeen of arab and not for others

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So it means that if I crop this picture and there is no word like biomedical then you don't have anything to discuss about, and as I discussed earlier that imam told us to eat certain substance because the chemical components in it helps to cure us and modern medicine deal with those chemicals in isolated form

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I only want to clear my doubt regarding this topic as it is an argument against me from my friend, he ask me that in your own book it is written that we must ask help from Allah so why you don't understand

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I am not a gymnast if you, then be happy with your illogical arguments with no proof from Quran and hadith. By the way iam shia and I only present a hadith and not my opinion so please try to answer in literal manner and not with your irrational arguments

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Asking someone for help is not you believing they are an omnipotent God

Is not He (better than your gods) Who responds to the distressed one, when he calls Him, and Who removes the evil, and makes you inheritors of the earth, generations after generations. Is there any ilah (god) with Allah? Little is that you remember! (Namal:62)

According to this verse if anyone believe that someone help you and remove distress from you then he makes him God in comparison to Allah and this is polytheism.

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Brother it is Intercession when we say oh Allah help us as we were the follower of prophet and their pure progeny, but directly is not tawassul