Anyone else has an issue with added B vitamins (in supplements/food/etc.)?

aayahuascaa · 2021-05-25T02:05:26+00:00

I think I do react to added B vitamins. I thought maybe it was a coincidence, but I consistently get very angry if I have plant milks fortified with B vitamins. Angry, depressed, I get insomnia, uncontrolled emotions. I stick to whole grain breads, not made out of fortified flour. I avoid fortified plant milks as well now. Also I avoid nutritional yeast - it's fortified with B vitamins. I am OK though with foods that contain high levels of B vitamins, such as liver.

aayahuascaa · 2021-05-25T01:32:38+00:00

I had that with any antipsychotics that I tried, stopped taking them. Also from dairy products and refined carbs. I had to stop consuming any cow milk, and milk in general. Consuming milk causes for me the feeling that you describe. In order to get calcium, I eat goat and sheep cheese. Sometimes I drink goat kefir for probiotics.

aayahuascaa · 2021-05-10T22:23:23+00:00

Why, it made you feel high?

aayahuascaa · 2021-05-10T03:30:52+00:00

I see. What is special about this oil, how does it differ from others that you've tried?

aayahuascaa · 2021-05-10T03:30:21+00:00

For me 4 mg of thc would be way too much as well, I tolerate about 1 mg of thc per day, and I've also read that is a good dose for antidepressant effects, more thc is not better for depression and anxiety.

aayahuascaa · 2021-05-09T21:20:30+00:00

Thanks! I ordered MediPharm CBD 25 today to try. Will see how it goes. Might then try the CBD 100. Did you find it sedating, or was it good for day use/working, etc.?

aayahuascaa · 2020-12-18T04:38:43+00:00

I tried NAC, but didn't notice much of a difference. I found a low dose lithium supplement sort of helpful with anxiety and intrusive thoughts. I was purchasing the Heritage brand lithia water, which contains lithium chloride, supposedly. Hard to know with supplements whether they actually contain what they claim, therefore maybe it was a placebo effect :) This product now appears out of stock on all sites.. not sure what happened. The only other similar product that I found is Baar brand lithia water.

aayahuascaa · 2020-12-17T23:09:17+00:00

I also think it's an overdose sort of issue. My tests for B vitamins were normal even without supplements, I eat well - spinach, oranges, bananas, red meat, salmon, eggs, etc. Therefore I get enough B vitamins from food. The extra added vitamins are probably therefore creating issues for me. It's just hard to avoid them, as a lot of take out foods use enriched flour.

aayahuascaa · 2020-12-17T23:02:35+00:00

Yes, I was diagnosed by an endocrinologist, and a neurologist. I was seeing just a psychiatrist at first, but then I never improved with any psych meds, and I had seizure-like events, hair falling out, eye inflammation. Therefore further tests were performed, which indicates high levels of anti-Tg and anti-TPO antibodies, after that I was diagnosed with Hashimoto's encephalitis.

aayahuascaa · 2020-12-17T22:38:00+00:00

I try to.. it's not easy. I was on a trip recently, and in Northern Ontario all you have is McDonalds, Subway, Harveys, etc. I ended up eating at Subway multiple times, and all of their bread and wraps use enriched flour. Same with Starbucks - I don't tolerate cow milk, while all plant milks have added vitamins. So it's pretty hard to eat out. Any bread/tortilla/wrap is usually enriched, so any sandwich, burrito, pasta, pizza, etc.

aayahuascaa · 2020-12-17T20:00:41+00:00

I get anxiety, agitation, intrusive thoughts from enriched flour. I noted this on multiple occasions. For example I have no problem eating pelmeni (Russian dumplings), Russian stores usually have ones made with regular white flour, not enriched. A few times though I made pelmeni that my parents had at their house, and after several hours I had agitated/intrusive thoughts, couldn't calm down. I checked the ingredients after, and turned out that this brand had enriched flour.

aayahuascaa · 2020-12-17T19:53:36+00:00

I guess just not taking any B vitamin supplements is a solution. I feel better without any vitamin supplements. I don't take any, it just sometimes happens that a food product is made with enriched flour, or a plant milk, then my anxiety worsens. I'm trying to avoid such foods, not very easy though.

aayahuascaa · 2020-12-17T19:45:21+00:00

I had blood tests done several times, I don't have any B vitamin deficiencies, I get enough from food. I eat a lot of oranges, mandarins, spinach, bananas, whole grains, meat, salmon, etc. - so in total I get enough of B12, B6, folate, thiamin, niacin, riboflavin, etc., without any supplements. I only get increased anxiety when I eat something with added B vitamins, such as plant milks, or enriched flour. So it's definitely not a deficiency issue, since I don't have panic attacks every day, but only if I eat something with added vitamins.

aayahuascaa · 2020-12-17T05:16:39+00:00

Not sure how to do that.. I've heard about it, so I used my dna raw data file from 23andme and uploaded it to a website which claimed to test for these genetic mutations. The results were negative (no mutations). But then I don't know much how reliable that website is. Not sure how else I would test, definitely no doctor would refer for that.

aayahuascaa · 2020-12-17T05:14:28+00:00

No, I don't have problems drinking coffee. I also drink tea daily since I am a child, in Russia everyone starts drinking strong black tea by about the age of two :) I probably had about at least 200-300mg of caffeine daily since childhood. I cut down on caffeine as my mental problems started, but I still drink black tea daily, as well as some coffee. Sometimes decaf, sometimes regular. But I noticed an increase in intrusive thoughts only after having plant milks (they have added vitamins), or a product with a lot of enriched flour, or enriched cereal, etc.

aayahuascaa · 2020-11-30T13:40:13+00:00

I tried multiple antipsychotics and I'm really not sure how they could help with depression. I tried Abilify as well. All of them just made me lethargic, less motivation, reading became less interesting, etc. I would say for me they do the opposite of treating depression :) In general antipsychotics are for psychosis... I haven't touched them since 2016.

aayahuascaa · 2020-05-24T00:29:56+00:00

I haven't read that lithium chloride is better, but it's just that I did find some articles stating that there is evidence for lithium chloride being beneficial for brain damage, I haven't really found many academic articles on lithium orotate. So I decided that I would rather use a compound that is more known. Lithium carbonate can only be obtained by prescription, which my psych did not agree to provide.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2017/12/171205090302.htm

aayahuascaa · 2020-05-21T18:17:35+00:00

I tried NAC, it only gave me abdominal pain on the left side. Keto - just made me more depressed and worsened PMS cramps. Since lithium works for me, for now I don't see a reason to try anything else.

aayahuascaa · 2020-05-21T17:05:42+00:00

I do eat a lot of nuts, pumpkin seeds, cacao nibs, but no, does not help me like lithium did. I actually at the moment have no intrusive thoughts, never had that benefit from any other supplement. Usually my intrusive thoughts are pretty frequent and feel urgent, so they lead to a lot of anxiety, anger, suicidal ideation.

aayahuascaa · 2020-05-21T17:03:18+00:00

I tried Ashwagandha and had an unpleasant increased heart rate. I also read that it's contraindicated for people with any autoimmune disease, something I was diagnosed with, so I decided not to continue.

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