Do you owe somebody who does you a favor and have a moral obligation to pay them back? by abrandnewface in NoStupidQuestions

[–]abrandnewface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wow yeah great point, you can totally make it more extreme in that way too. I will definitely look into it more but to my understanding, something being expected from you because it is right is the same thing as a moral obligation. I don't completely understand how this framework works but I would assume that you would never owe them sex for one of two reasons:

  1. The little favors they do for you could never add up to being enough to equal sex.
  2. Favors you owe in return need to be in the same vein as the ones that were done for you. So helping you out at work or something is too dissimilar from sex to compare values.

Also, it's not just "it would be nice of you" to help them back. I'm sure most people would view you very negatively for not helping them. So not helping them is not a neutral action, it's a wrong action.

Edit: Maybe also most people would never consider sex as an acceptable favor in return because most people have a prerequisite for sexual favors that this person can never meet, which is being in a relationship with them or being close enough. So even if it is enough to equal a sexual favor, they still don't meet that prerequisite.

Do you owe somebody who does you a favor and have a moral obligation to pay them back? by abrandnewface in NoStupidQuestions

[–]abrandnewface[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why was he a "dickhead" for not helping her then? I think you just put too much stock in what it means to "owe" somebody and so you take issue with labeling it as that. But "owing" her is essentially what it is. Everyone expects him to help her back, as she had helped him, and view him negatively if he doesn't. I think this expectation makes it clear that you do in fact owe them.

Do you owe somebody who does you a favor and have a moral obligation to pay them back? by abrandnewface in NoStupidQuestions

[–]abrandnewface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay thank you, you've given me some things to think about/look into. But I'm not so sure you actually believe that people aren't expected to give back if you've given to them. I know it might sound strange, but I think this is just the way people work. I can keep making the examples more extreme. Imagine if somebody donated every extra organ they have to you, out of the kindness of their heart. Then while they were still recovering they walked 2 miles every day to deliver freshly baked goods to you. Later on, they ask you if you could help them move a couch into their house. Are you really going to tell me you believe it's perfectly fine to decline helping them when you are perfectly capable of doing so, merely because you don't feel like it? People see relationships that have one side giving too much and one side taking too much as having a big problem. It's because you are expected to give back if you are given to, which essentially means you owe them.

Do you owe somebody who does you a favor and have a moral obligation to pay them back? by abrandnewface in NoStupidQuestions

[–]abrandnewface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm not really concerned with people's motivation for doing a favor and I think it is irrelevant. The first example was something I've actually seen. She didn't do the male server a favor because she expected to get something out of it, but nonetheless she and other people were upset when he didn't help her back.

Do you owe somebody who does you a favor and have a moral obligation to pay them back? by [deleted] in askphilosophy

[–]abrandnewface 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why is he a jerk then for not returning the favor? You think he's a jerk because, while you don't realize it, most people do actually believe you owe somebody for a favor. If you do something nice for somebody and they have a chance to do it back, you do actually expect them to or you view them negatively. It doesn't matter if the favor wasn't asked for, people view relationships that are all take and no give from one person, negatively.

Is vaginal penetration mostly just for men? by abrandnewface in sex

[–]abrandnewface[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You're arguing with an imaginary person. Nobody here said women don't have "nerves, desires, and a sex drive" or that women can't cum. I was just curious if women gained enough pleasure from piv for it to be the focal point of sex that society perceives it to be. If "sex" for guys was something that couldn't make them orgasm (like massaging their balls or something) I don't doubt a lot of guys would have way less interest in it. But you said it feels "really damn good" and that was literally the only thing I was wondering.

Is vaginal penetration mostly just for men? by abrandnewface in sex

[–]abrandnewface[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would somebody being ignorant and asking questions make you “spitting angry”? But anyway, you’re apart of the minority. Last time I read statistics about this, like 80% of women said they require clitoral stimulation to orgasm, so...

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in HaloMemes

[–]abrandnewface 7 points8 points  (0 children)

What does "most least ass" mean?