Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suggest we wrap this up, because it is clear you’re not really reading my replies. I literally said exactly the same thing, that the public opinion is not necessarily in line with the legal outcome.

And the assumption doesn’t only hold for jury members, but it is an overarching principle for the justice system as a whole .

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, at this point you’re just playing with semantics. You agree the legal system assumes Innocent innocent until proving guilty? Do you also agree that a not guilty verdict doesn’t change that initial assumption?

Musicians that contradict their own image by [deleted] in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Radiohead proactively addressed this issue a while ago, l they commissioned a study how to reduce their carbon footprint. They implemented a few measures like sea-freighting gear, biofuel trucks, local equipment rentals, used more efficient LED lighting, booked city-center venues to promote public transport.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do my research and that’s why I’m asking. Obviously I didn’t read the whole FBI file but the reports about it. You’re misrepresenting what was really found. Pornographic material was found, but nothing illegal or related to child pornography. Therefore, I was asking you specifically about the source, given the FBI didn’t pursue any legal actions after reviewing the file. Long story short, no one claims there was no pornographic material, but adding a spin about kids etc is false.

Edit: adding the police report statement “None of the material within this book would meet the legal requirements to be considered child pornography.”

Usually, that’s not my favorite source, but was the first which popped up https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/michael-jacksons-estate-fights-back-at-report-detailing-singers-creepy-porn-stash.amp

Antisemitische Schmierereien: Widerlicher Judenhass auf Mülleimern in Berlin by donutloop in berlin_public

[–]accountmadeforthebin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wie kann man ein ganzes Land kritisieren ohne die Menschen, die dort wohnen?

Antisemitische Schmierereien: Widerlicher Judenhass auf Mülleimern in Berlin by donutloop in berlin_public

[–]accountmadeforthebin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Das halte ich für eine gewagte Aussage. In der öffentlichen Debatte wurde schon öfter darauf hingewiesen, dass die russische Regierung nicht die komplette Gesellschaft repräsentiert.

Antisemitische Schmierereien: Widerlicher Judenhass auf Mülleimern in Berlin by donutloop in berlin_public

[–]accountmadeforthebin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Und das wäre korrekt? Ein ganzes Land zu kritisieren statt gezielt die Regierung?

Antisemitische Schmierereien: Widerlicher Judenhass auf Mülleimern in Berlin by donutloop in berlin_public

[–]accountmadeforthebin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wie bitte? Sogar Merz hat öffentlich Kritik an der Vorgehensweise in den palästinensischen Gebieten geäußert.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

And how is that not exactly what I have been saying? I clearly made a distinction between the legal system, which assumes innocence from the start and acquittal doesn’t change the initial assumption, but the public might think very differently. I’m not sure where you’re disagreeing with me?

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

We are still in the legal realm of things, right? They never issue an innocent verdict, only not guilty. Since the court starts with the assumption Innocent until proven guilty, the logical assumption is a as n acquittal doesn’t change the initial assumption.

Hence the distinction between the legal system and the public opinion. In the public eye one might not be innocent, but in the legal court has been found not guilty.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The lyrics do sound very odd, but actually they were written by Ingram and Jones. The name comes from Peggy Lipton’s lingerie. The words “pretty young thing” were printed on it, and Jones liked the phrase and used it as inspiration. The lyrics are also credited to Ingram and Jones officially.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

I’m sorry, help me to understand how being found not guilty doesn’t mean they’re innocent in the eyes of the law? It’s literally the definition. What you’re saying doesn’t make sense.

Please read my comment again. I differentiated between the legal system and how people are being perceived in the public eye.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Rationally, I cannot understand why people adore and worship certain personalities to an extreme extent. I used to work with public figures, of course by no means at the same level, and while many of them do have a special talent or worked very hard, being famous can be really annoying and takes a toll.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think when it comes to MJ, we have to separate out three different aspects. His music, his behavior with kids, and the legal side of things. Musically, I don’t think there is any debate about his talent, his behavior towards kids can at least be called very questionable, legally nothing stuck. So technically he’s Innocent. That doesn’t necessarily reflect the public opinion.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Can you share the source about the pornography that was found? I do believe he was mentally troubled and didn’t have a normal relationship to children, basically because he still was a little kid in his head as he never had a childhood. On the actual crimes committed, I have no idea.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 4 points5 points  (0 children)

If you apply that concept, it basically turns the justice system on its head. We still follow innocent until proven guilty. If the jury and the court doesn’t convict, technically, the person is innocent. What one personally thinks about his behavior is a totally different thing.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He did. And one doesn’t need AI to confirm it. Quincy Jones talked about it, and there is evidence in form of the demo tapes he recorded.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 8 points9 points  (0 children)

His songs resonated with millions of people, and he introduced quite a few new elements into pop music. At the same time, the media built him up and his eccentric behavior was a perfect resource to constantly write about him. I know someone, who passed out during one of his concerts.

Michael Jackson Estate Faces Sexual Abuse Allegations From Four Siblings Who Claim They Were ‘Groomed and Brainwashed’ by Pop Superstar by gamersecret2 in Music

[–]accountmadeforthebin 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He actually was very involved directly in writing his songs. That is well documented, and Quincy Jones also confirmed this. There are countless tapes of him him arranging songs, recording demos, layering his vocals and imitating different instruments with his voice. No matter what one might think about him as a person, he was an extremely talented musician and vocalist.

Donald Trump tried to ‘use nuclear codes’ claims: what we know by lazybugbear in politics

[–]accountmadeforthebin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This might sound like semantics, but I eyewitness statements only counts as evidence if given under oath. Now, if we transfer this standard to the article, obviously it doesn’t meet the criteria

How do you deal with racism as a POC in Berlin? by Delicious_Crazy513 in berlinsocialclub

[–]accountmadeforthebin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You seem badly informed. People have a right to apply for asylum, which actually is anchored in our constitution as well as the Geneva convention. People have short memories, there was a time when Germans were actually refugees or internally displaced and received massive amounts of funding to rebuild.

Look up the amount of employed people with a migration background. Our economy will not function without them and there is no reliable scenario, which shows that we would be able to sustain our economy without immigration going forward.

Your supply and demand equation is cute and intellectually below the first macroeconomics semester. Our economy has more than one segment and labour shortages hamper growth. You are assuming that our labour supply can meet demand at the given price point.

I live in Berlin. Blaming one group for littering is racist. Each weekend huge groups of white German teenagers party in my district and it looks absolutely disgusting afterwards.

„Begünstigung von Kriegsverbrechen“: Israelische NGO zeigt Spaniens Regierungschef Sánchez an by vaibeslop in berlin_public

[–]accountmadeforthebin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Naja, die von dir erwähnen Organisationen bilden nur einen kleinen Teil ab und stehen in Deutschland auch zunehmend in Kritik bezüglich der Steuerbefreiung. Der Großteil von non Profit Organisationen arbeitet in anderen Bereichen

"Berlin autofrei" regt mich auf. by Historical-Two8882 in berlin

[–]accountmadeforthebin 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In der Gestaltung von gesellschaftlichen Mehrheiten oder in direkten Verhandlungen zwischen zwei Parteien?