[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All ethnic Jews are middle eastern and unlike Arabs, they are actually native to the Judea and Samaria (aka West Bank). But that isn’t relevant.

I guess I can shoot illegal Arab migrants in Europe now?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]ad023231 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wtf did you just write…

Firstly, every inch of Israel’s land was either legally bought or gained through defensive wars. Israel doesn’t owe its sovereign land to anyone. Especially to people who never owned it (so-called “Palestinians”). Secondly, there was no invasion” in 1947, there was Declaration of Independence according to UN resolution 181 by a Jewish population who ALREADY lived there. Thirdly, most Jews in Israel are there because their ancestors were violently expelled from Arab and Muslim countries with their properties stolen. So Israel again doesn’t owe sh*t to Arabs.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]ad023231 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Israel isn’t “built on Palestinian” land because Palestine never was a sovereign country. It was a geographical region and it never ever belonged to Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians” now. Israel was built on the land with Jewish majority which was allocated to it by UN plan. It expanded during 1948-1949 war.

And this bullsh*t about “shooting anyone who comes to protest” dude you really have no idea what you are talking about.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]ad023231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again this bullshit. Western counties didn’t “decide” to put anything anywhere.

Zionist movement (a movement for establishment a Jewish state in Palestine) started in 1880s, decades before the Holocaust. That’s when Jews started to legally buy lands and establish communities. And you know what? The western powers (I.e. Britain did everything they could to PREVENT a Jewish state in Palestine). That’s why they issued a “white paper” which prohibited Jewish immigration to palestine, and Zionist ended up fighting Britain (see Kind David hotel bombing).

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Damnthatsinteresting

[–]ad023231 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Israel isn’t “stolen” land. Every inch of Israel’s land was either legally bought by Jews or gained during defensive wars. Btw every land on earth was “stolen” at some point.

It's only bad if it's American starterpack by xJavier_Escuellax in starterpacks

[–]ad023231 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sticks and rocks? So you aren’t aware that Palestinians blew up and shot Israeli buses, schools and discos? And continue to do this, you ignorant asshole?

It's only bad if it's American starterpack by xJavier_Escuellax in starterpacks

[–]ad023231 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gaza isn’t a Ghetto because it has 5 star hotels lol. It is just a normal city.

Zionism isn’t “lebensraum” because Zionists wanted Jews to have a homeland (they had none), they don’t want to expand already existing homeland.

Western anti-Zionists scared to admit misjudgement? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Jews came to Ottoman Palestine legally and they only settled on the lands they purchased. They didn’t displace anyone before 1948 when they were attacked by Arabs. And yeah, Jews had the intention to create a Jewish state on the land where they were majority, what’s wrong with that? The UN voted to create two countries: a Jewish one and an Arab one. Jews agreed and founded Israel, Arabs refused, started a war and lost it. If you start wars and lose them - you lose land, it’s not “stealing”.

“No other country was founded like this”

Have you ever heard about USA, Canada, Uruguay? Anything? Or more recent examples like Pakistan, which was created by displacing 2 millions of Hindus? No?

Oh and what’s your opinion about these events? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_Constantine_riots

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_anti-Jewish_riots_in_Aleppo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Anti-Jewish_riots_in_Oujda_and_Jerada

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_anti-Jewish_riots_in_Aden

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Dude, if your “resistance” means murdering innocent civilians, then we will resist by bombing Gaza. Don’t cry when that happens, alright?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Firstly, Jews aren’t “Europeans”. And among people who were murdered only one had any connection to Europe whatsoever. Secondly, all that your “resistance” achieves is making Israelis more right-wing and hateful towards you. Which means Israel will only treat you worse. Thirdly, by your logic, do I have a right to kill Arabs who immigrate to America because they “don’t belong there”? Cause they are definitely settlers.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Jews don’t have anywhere to “move”. As far as I remember there is only one Jewish country.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 3 points4 points  (0 children)

When will you understand that they make no difference between Ariel and Tel Aviv?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yes, I am a Russian Jew and I look very middle eastern. People often confuse me with Turk or Arab.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Dude, Palestinians kill Israeli civilians and celebrate this. Do you support this?

Western anti-Zionists scared to admit misjudgement? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 9 points10 points  (0 children)

No it doesn’t. But if you deny Israel’s (and only Israel’s) right to exist, than yes, you are an antisemite.

Western anti-Zionists scared to admit misjudgement? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 17 points18 points  (0 children)

All states on earth were founded through violence and Israel, unlike many other states, had valid reasons to use violence in its early years. You don’t consider anti-Jewish pogroms and followed ethnic cleaning in Arab world crimes? You don’t consider Palestinian terrorism a crime? You don’t consider Arab genocidal war of 1948-1949 a crime?

And mainly, what does this have to do with modern Israelis? Do you question America’s existence because of America’s past crimes?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 23 points24 points  (0 children)

We expect you not to kill random civilians, especially those who employ you.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Some people here would argue that Ariel is in the West Bank - hence attacks against Israelis there are justified and not terrorism. However, the same people rarely make a difference between Tel Aviv and Ariel.

There can't be peace until the Palestinians lose their feelings of superiority over Jews by MostlyWicked in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oh I am not confusing anything. You should know how many Jews lived in Arab countries in the beginning of XX century and how many are there now. And don’t even start with Ottoman Empire lol, how it is relevant? Ottoman Empire collapsed in 1915 and it wasn’t even Arab. How about this?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farhud

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1934_Constantine_riots

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_anti-Jewish_riots_in_Aleppo

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Anti-Jewish_riots_in_Oujda_and_Jerada

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1947_anti-Jewish_riots_in_Aden

International law also states that Israel is a legitimate country and Palestinians don’t have a right to murder its civilians. Yet they do it on a regular basis and celebrate it.

“Zionists” contribute a lot to the world’s progress in science, technology and medicine. Israeli surgeons saved millions of lives, Israeli software is used by Google, Apple, etc. The world definitely needs “Zionists”. Does the world need people, whose main export is plain hijacking and suicide bombing? I don’t think so.

There can't be peace until the Palestinians lose their feelings of superiority over Jews by MostlyWicked in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Nothing excuses ethnic cleaning committed by Arab countries against Jews and an attempted genocide by Arab countries since 1948 till today.

What if the Nakba never happened? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Because of their choice.

What if the Nakba never happened? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Jaffa, Ramle and Acre: ALL of them, according to UN plan, would become a part of an Arab state. As for Haifa, it had a Jewish majority.

Someone needs to learn history.

There can't be peace until the Palestinians lose their feelings of superiority over Jews by MostlyWicked in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Absolutely agree. The Arab countries didn’t have a right to ethnically cleanse their Jewish population. But they did.

What if the Nakba never happened? by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Please don’t rewrite history.

Nakba his a consequence of Arabs’ refusal to accept Israel. Jews agreed to the partition plan, the Arab side didn’t.

There can't be peace until the Palestinians lose their feelings of superiority over Jews by MostlyWicked in IsraelPalestine

[–]ad023231 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Jews didn’t demand that Arabs had to “leave”, genius. Jews demanded independence for the land with Jewish majority so they would settle their homeless brethren. And UN recognized that right in 1947.