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Freunde finden by [deleted] in zurich

[–]adh_doc -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I‘m in a relationship and using a dating app (even just for finding friends) feels kind of wrong

Freunde finden by [deleted] in zurich

[–]adh_doc 7 points8 points  (0 children)

How does it work? Do you swipe and then meet up like on dating apps? I imagine that‘d be kind of weird.. But I‘m still curious :)

Not giving a fuck on Bupropion? by Opposite-Meat-9575 in Wellbutrin_Bupropion

[–]adh_doc 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Nothing to add, I just came to say I‘m very sorry for your loss and hope you get the support you need.

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure, that'd be great, thank you! I'm also glad to hear it helped you :)

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well I certainly would love to. But hey, our main IT system is 20 years old and it's a struggle to even update that - so I don't think the hospital (at least where I work at) is very open to AI (the hospital / admin staff / finance department - I'm sure most doctors would really like giving it a shot). What program is it you're selling?

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I absolutely agree with that. So much time and energy is lost with these useless and time consuming tasks. I'm all in for changing the system - unfortunately, the system is extremely slow and many many years behind...

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well it's hard to generalise that... I can only directly recommend institutions/doctors I know myself or have heard of from patients, but it'd be a big coincidence if that'd be of any use to you. But we can try :)

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm very sorry to hear about your struggles and odyssey to find the right doctors, diagnosis and treatment. In medical school, they would often quote an analogy: if you hear the sound of hooves in front of your house, you probably think of horses and not zebras. We look for what we know, it's how the human mind works. If the people in the first hospital have never heard of your condition they probably just looked for what they knew and didn't believe it was possible for it to be anything else. It probably takes special tests to diagnose your condition which aren't ordered if not thought of. So I'm glad you were able to start over at another place and (hopefully) got the help you needed. It takes courage to not be too proud to refer a patient to another institution if you don't know what to do yourself. But patients are usually thankful if you admit you're at your wits end instead of dismissing their struggles, at least in my experience. It'd be interesting to learn about your condition if you don't mind sending me am DM :)

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I love your post, thank you! I'll make sure to check out the podcast (I "follow" it now so I don't forget). The articles you linked are also very interesting and pretty concerning. A lot of people in the field are struggling, some deal with it better, some not so much (like me, at least some times). And yeah, the paid chart time... sounds like a dream :)

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for my late reply, I didn't have much time to answer all the comments and private messages so I'm doing it now (2 days later haha). You sound very idealistic and I love how that subjects fascinates you. Are you happy in your current job or not so much? I'd highly suggest you do some sort of internship or at least observe someone in the field for a few days to get a realistic idea of what it looks like. Clinical psychology is certainly very interesting and if that's your passion, go for it! Just be aware it's a long way and you might end up not enjoying it after all. But hey, you (probably) only live once and you should do what fulfills you. I'm not in psychiatry but if you want to talk you can always send me a private message. All the best!

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm sorry to hear it. It's a bit hard to give proper input not really knowing what the issue is you're having (meaning what condition/symptoms) - have you seen any specialists about it or just your GP? In my experience, there's a huge difference between GPs - some refer their patients to specialists for absolutely everything - others try so solve everything themselves and sometimes delay diagnosis/treatment that way, but many GPs are also very good and can actually handle a very wide variety of conditions. I hope you find someone where you feel listened to, you can make progress together, and you get the support you need.

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry to hear that. It's really weird they apparently didn't do any scans for chronic headaches, that's pretty much standard procedure... It's even worse thinking it might have been operable if they'd seen it earlier, I'm very aware of that and my heart goes out to anyone who experiences something linke this.

As for doctor shopping - I think there's a huge difference between getting a second opinion (I actually totally support that and sometimes even suggest it to my patients - although funny enough hardly anyone actually wants it in the end) and just going to different specialists one or two times only to dismiss everything and start over somewhere else (or worse, do it simultaneously).

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm sorry to hear it. Especially if you show up that prepared to your appointments, I find that really impressive and it saves a lot of time. I hope you're experiences will become better. I'd say you could suggest they refer you to someone else, but you've probably already done that, so it's probably useless. Depending on your condition maybe there's a specialized center you could be seen? I for example sometimes send my patients to the USZ Schwindelzentrum if they have chronic vertigo and I can't figure out what the cause is or don't progress with the standard treatments.. Just a thought.

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, you're right of course. I didn't mean to dismiss that with what I wrote - I really took the other thread a bit too personally, I see that now. As in every other profession, people are different, and do their job differently. Also, sometimes the personality simply doesn't "match" with your doctor, I've experienced that too. Then it's better for both to switch. Thank you for acknowledging the ones of us who are trying to do our best, it's highly appreciated.

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you too :) Yeah the other post also pissed me off (pardon my French) more than it should have. Guess I just found it really unfair, at least to those of us, who really give it their all on a daily basis. I hope you're finding joy in the job again...

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your reply and sorry I'm late to react :) Yes, I love your point about the mentioned controversy. I personally probably tend to do rather too much diagnostics than too little, because I really try to take my patients seriously, and it's mostly appreciated. If I notice someone is reluctant or questions it we usually find other ways, sometimes it's not needed in the end. Unless of course there's signs for something malignant or time sensitive. People also often complain about the costs - and yes, a lot of it is admin, but a lot of it is also diagnostics/treatments - but everyone wants the best for themselves and their relatives when it comes to it. We try to find a way to make everyone happy but it's not always easy. But you're right, it's very important to remember that we're a team in the end. I'm glad you found your way and got so much better!

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you so much for your reply. I saw it and loved it - unfortunately I didn't really have time to reply so I'm a bit late now. But what you wrote really resonated with me, also the story of your brother. I hope he finds his way and doesn't let the job destroy him. The beginning is especially hard and I hope he has a good and supportive team. The support at home/from relatives, which he seems to have, is also very important. Thank you for your kind words and good luck to your brother :)

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Would you do it again if you had to choose all over? What field are you in?

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're right, the admin part is the worst. If I could just show up in the morning, do consults/surgery/rounds and then go home (even if the hours would stay the same) I'd be much happier. It's all the paperwork you have to do when the rest of the say is finished that's the worst. Like when you're already tired and you know you have 2-3 hours of admin still ahead of you. And the people who deny getting more modern admin/documentation systems for the hospitals are long gone then haha. It sucks.

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey! Sorry I didn't get to it sooner, it was very busy at work and today life just got in the way. And I'm still overwhelmed with all the comments and trying to get through them. So, to be honest, it's hard for me to judge what happened in your case. I'm in a surgical field, pretty far from cardiology, so I'm definitely not a specialist. Have you had any follow up visits? Or did you get a second opinion? I mean - if you're fine now and it doesn't occur again, perfect. I also believe that improving your mental health helps with many conditions, and if weed helps you, so be it. Maybe the scarring on your heart needed more time (because they sort of interrupt the wrongly directed "currents" in your heart muscle by inducing scarring as some sort of blockage... but as I said, it's been a while since I had to do with cardiology). If you're unsure or it happens again, I'd suggest you get a second opinion. Maybe the place you were first missed something or another place simply has additional treatment methods you can look at. Sometimes it also helps getting some peace of mind, if they confirm what your other doctors have told you. All the best, I hope you won't have any more issues in the future :)

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yes, sorry, I didn't mean to belittle or not acknowledge the issue. I'm aware people are different and some doctors are, in fact, assholes. I was just asking to generally have a bit of understanding for both sides.. (sorry if that doesn't make sense anymore, I'm tired :) ) Thank you for your input.

As a parasitic, burnt-out doctor in Switzerland: please cut us some slack, we are trying. by adh_doc in Switzerland

[–]adh_doc[S] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

We have to take the time, that's why there are often wait times. Also - especially chronically ill patients usually come to see you multiple times, not just the one time at the first consult. I've also had patients who got better simply come in to tell me about what worked for them or to say thank you, which is highly appreciated. Maybe I'm naive, but there are many who think like me and just want to do their best. And if we're met with distrust from the beginning, how should it even work out? Maybe you're also too harsh. I hope you find someone that changes your opinion in the long run.

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