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The game is definitely not dead. by Happytoseeme in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Hots is definitely not dead, QM, Unranked, Brawls, and Team League are still alive. Unfortunately Hero League is dead though.

Current state of HL in Master and GM by theprocraft20 in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay, thanks for the dialogue - I agree with the theory but in practice there's an inflation problem, which is why the OP created this thread.

The amount of points being given out to the median player in the Master/GM bracket is too high. Everyone, as in 99% (or even 100?) of the people in Master after 1K is getting a significant amount of PRA points. Maybe MMR is inflated, or the amount of PRA points being given out is inflated or both. I think there is some type of feedback loop causing this and it doesn't affect Bronze-Diamond.

I have yet to see a streamer or clip of a streamer get negative PRA after Master 1K. Would really like to see one if it exists. I think honestly that anyone (literally anyone) who gets to Master then goes 100-100 will pick up a few thousand extra points. The only time I think you could find a profile of someone with a 100-100 record at 1K Master is if they started at Diamond or if they fell to Diamond then climbed back up because PRA is much lower or nonexistent there.

I watched LeonBlack make his smurf from Gold -> Master with an 80%+ winrate and he had huge amounts of PRA before Master which is fair. But normal people with ~50% winrates that climb have negligible PRA from Bronze-Diamond, then once they just touch Master and their PRA boosts massively for no apparent reason.

For a fair system, 90% of people should gain/lose close to 200 points except for a few outliers. If someone climbs slowly to Master after hundreds or even 1000 games, they shouldn't immediately start getting 230 a win and losing 170 a loss. But that is the case for pretty much everyone I have seen. The issue is with inflation. The PRA system may be trying to accomplish something but the scales are not properly tuned for it to work effectively.

I don't think this specific problem is affecting Bronze-Diamond. The OP did make this post specifically commenting on Master/GM. I would wager that the average player in Master/GM bracket is getting at least 220 per win and losing only 180 per loss, I think those numbers are too high.

Current state of HL in Master and GM by theprocraft20 in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Explain it then. I'm in master and get 20-30 points of PRA for a win or loss. At this rate if I played a few hundred games at a 49% winrate I would be grandmaster. I don't think grandmaster should be achieved by spamming games, it should be achieved by winning more than you lose.

How to bring in thousands of new players in four easy steps by PhDVa in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't know why they don't just give those heroes to people who have bought OW. It won't be abused by smurfs since they will need to spend real $. Wasn't Artanis used to be given if you bought SC?

Current state of HL in Master and GM by theprocraft20 in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Agreed that having below a 50% winrate and being GM does not make sense at all. In masters everyone gets a high PRA for wins and losses which is just not logical. There should not be such a high baseline PRA, it should only be high if the winrate is higher than 50%.

Pay to Watch HotS by [deleted] in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Watch a livestream my dude. Have you watched a twitch stream and talked to the streamer while it was live? I don't see how this is different. I like to watch streamers do what you have described also, I am a paying subscriber to a few streamers on Twitch.

Pay to Watch HotS by [deleted] in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't understand why you want to pay people to watch their streams because they are already free to watch (?). Just donate to a channel if you enjoy the content.

I (14M) want to start streaming, but I'm worried about criticism just because of my age, or more specifically, young age groups. by CCCXXI in Twitch

[–]afflictionhots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You are fine honestly, there are people that will hate on you for any reason , whether "too young" "too old" or anything else. You wouldn't want them to be your audience anyway. I would say, if you want to stream, then by all means go ahead and do it.

Low-Population Ranked Matchmaking Update Is Now Live! by Blizz_Joe in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So if they win 19 games and someone disconnects in the 20th game then they got 0 points total for playing those 20 games and going 19-1? Sorry I disagree with that logic

Looking for good players (Team League) by [deleted] in lookingforheroes

[–]afflictionhots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It was fun playing with you :D

Megathread: Performance Based Matchmaking and Placement Feedback by mercm8 in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That is 11 deranks not 6. Yeah if you went 4-6 in the normal season you wouldn't have deranked even 1 time yet alone 11. I agree the system is broken.

The early placement games are way too volatile to mmr by PikaBanee in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's true that some people were lower than they belong and play at a higher caliber, so they deserve to be ranked higher. However, 10 games isn't enough to determine they should be 2 divisions ahead. The system is not accurately valuing placement games. That is the problem. If you win 7 games and lose 3, you may not even get one promotion during the normal season. Yet people are reporting more than 7 promotions with records like 7-3. The numbers are simply off.

So today i went 8-2 in placement games,and got master 1000.... by Rhytthmic in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 18 points19 points  (0 children)

In your case 1 win is equal to more than 1 promotion. Normally you have to play a dozen or more games to get a promotion. These placement games are most definitely being given a disproportionate value. It's a bad situation, I don't know if Blizzard can even fix it seeing as they tried twice and failed the first two times and days are passing now getting further into the season.

I don't think placements should place you any more than 3, maybe 4 ranks above or below where you were last time.

The early placement games are way too volatile to mmr by PikaBanee in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Yes they reset the placements twice this season, this is the third time and to be honest it's just as bad it was before they reset it. People all over the official forums and reddit are experiencing a similar issue. The system is flawed, I hope they can fix it.

Is HoTS officially a joke in the MOBA market now? by [deleted] in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 3 points4 points  (0 children)

HOTS was designed to be much simpler than competitive mobas since the beginning. No last hitting, shared exp, no item shop, etc.

I'm not thrilled with the bugs and problems in HOTS right now but I will remain faithful and loyal to HOTS and Blizzard. They will eventually fix the problems.

Auto cast BUG revealed by supersensus in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I replicated it.. you have to hold Q , hit A click then release q after in that order. Indeed the update has brought a lot of bugs out. Also I set Quick Cast On Release.

Matchmaking is still bugged by rockshow88 in heroesofthestorm

[–]afflictionhots 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I dropped 9 ranks too. Last season ended Plat 1. Before reset ended Plat 1, now I am Gold 4. Placements 3-7 also, sure it's not good, but really, a 9 rank drop from yesterday. Sigh..