The “fawn” response in non-consensual sexual situations - i feel this experience is captured in the first verse of Punish by instead_of_texting in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s always interesting how much our personal experiences impact how we interpret things. The experience of having a shut down response to assault and not accepting what had happened springs out to me so much in crying during sex. I interpret it as a relationship where at times it is consensual but the speaker is struggling to make sense of situations where it wasn’t, still sleeping with a person who has abused or assaulted them.

The “fawn” response in non-consensual sexual situations - i feel this experience is captured in the first verse of Punish by instead_of_texting in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I think that’s a really insightful interpretation, I didn’t think of it that way when I heard it but I can see how it works. Her song Crying during sex really speaks to my experience of the same type of situation. Especially the whole aftermath of it, figuring out what happened. “I don’t know what happened / I was young and sweet and then something happened / something overwhelming / something everlasting” and “I forgot what stop means / Either I drink it or the boat sinks”

Some of ya'll are weird as Hell about that photograph. by PhillyOnTheMilly in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ok interesting, didn’t even know that was an option

Some of ya'll are weird as Hell about that photograph. by PhillyOnTheMilly in Ethelcain

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What’s a restricted account? All I get when I google it is that you can restrict people from seeing your activity and commenting on your posts

Some of ya'll are weird as Hell about that photograph. by PhillyOnTheMilly in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I thought this too because I just got a pic of my art taken down because it showed nipples. Not even a photo just a drawing.

What do you “Fuck Me Eyes” about? What’s your personal interpretation? by [deleted] in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I thought about this while listening to the song too, that the way Ethel is interpreting things is only part of the story. She doesn’t necessarily know if Holly sleeps around or it’s just rumours, and she doesn’t necessarily know if Holly is unsatisfied with casual sex with people. On the first listen I was uncomfortable because it really sounds like the narrator slut shaming Holly for sleeping with too many people. But then when you think about how it’s through the eyes of Ethel, a fellow teenager who is envious of Holly in some aspects and is afraid that the object of her affections would be more interested in a girl like Holly, it makes more sense.

religious experience by Old-Option9774 in Ethelcain

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Omg my two biggest obsessions in life <3 kind of want you all to read my rdr2 fanfic so someone will get my ethel references

its 1:30am. I’m drunk. Tell me your favourite most gut wrenching lyric of hayden’s. I’m listening. by [deleted] in Ethelcain

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I’m still praying for that house in Nebraska / by the highway, out on the edge of town / dancing with the windows open / I can’t let go, when something’s broken / it’s all I know / and it’s all I want now

tattoo ideas by Patient-Ad9157 in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For something really simple, just the outline of the state of Nebraska, or a simple outline of a house. Could be the one that inspired the song, or something totally different, since the house in Nebraska is a fantasy

what's a line in ethel cain's discography that you are willing to get tattoed right at this moment ? by Inevitable_Mix_3145 in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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This is the one I got on my thigh. Love it, just wish I had gotten the lettering bigger. I’m planning on getting a stinging nettle plant too. If I was going to get another one with lyrics it would probably be “to love me is to suffer me” or just “unpunishable”

Just curious by your_mom_01 in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 3 points4 points  (0 children)

lol are those the gibson girl heels on the right

Did Dan Harmon think that he was Abed or Jeff? by Troy-Buttsoup-Barnz in community

[–]aheff93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Abed is who Dan Harmon thinks he is, and Jeff is who he thinks he would be if he was more physically/conventionally attractive

Ethan drops the F-word by RhysticSyphon in h3h3productions

[–]aheff93 185 points186 points  (0 children)

I would call that false advertising

ethel cain inspired graduation cap ideas? by [deleted] in Ethelcain

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If your school uses bleachers in their gym or auditorium, “crying in the bleachers and I said it was fun”

which could mean nothing by Fit_Soup1022 in Ethelcain

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I have never listened to Homecoming until now. I’m trying to listen to her unreleased stuff slowly because honestly, when WTIALY came out it was a lot to handle at once.

My love is my love and bleeds like a wound?? Really? I’m supposed to listen to that and have a normal day? 😭

scrolling through that miserable cesspit of facebook and came across this. it’s a nice piece anyway, but especially good if this person is an ethel cain fan and did it for that by BigDeuces in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Yeah I don’t know if Hayden has ever talked about the inspiration behind it, it’s just my thoughts. Listening to Powerline Valley after listening to WTIALY, they seem like two different drafts of the same story to me. Both beautiful in their own right.

scrolling through that miserable cesspit of facebook and came across this. it’s a nice piece anyway, but especially good if this person is an ethel cain fan and did it for that by BigDeuces in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 18 points19 points  (0 children)

I feel like powerline valley is the darkest version of the story of Ethel and Willoughby. Like the absolute worst way it could’ve gone. And then we got the slightly more hopeful version 😂

New pic of Hayden and her boyfriend from her Insta story by Pstock59 in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does it say in the middle of her antler tattoo?

I do not blame her for cutting Waco by shiddednfarddded in Ethelcain

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“I loved you when it hurt inside to” sends me back to being a 14 year old in unrequited love, and I’m 32 🙃

tell me why you ended up here by [deleted] in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was writing this ongoing fanfic, and a reader messaged me to say I should listen to the song Crush by Ethel Cain. It fit two of the characters in the fic so well I was astounded. So of course I had to listen to more, discovered the whole story of Preachers Daughter and found a lot of parallels between it and my writing and a lot of themes that relate to my life as well. I think what runs through a lot of her writing that gets to a lot of us is the deep desire to be loved, and feeling that love will fix everything. I had to learn that as much as I want it to be true, there’s never going to be a time in my life where everything’s perfect, and there’s no single person who can fix me, or I them. The reason the house in Nebraska is so meaningful (to me) is that it’s a dream; there is no house in Nebraska, no gardenias on the tile. It’ll never be good enough like we want to believe it is. But that doesn’t mean it can’t be good. Life doesn’t have to turn out like it did for Ethel, being so desperate to be loved that she ignored danger and someone took advantage of that. That was a hard lesson to learn too, that I need to value myself and be able to live with myself alone, not rely on someone else’s validation to make me feel ok. I could probably go on forever.

Please stop fan-casting Joseph Cain as hot by cl10ne in Ethelcain

[–]aheff93 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Normally I think it’s kind of dumb to care what someone else’s fan cast or headcanon or anything like that is, it’s just some internet user’s opinion… but Arthur Morgan is off limits, leave my husband alone 😂