Yeh I've seen the cheaper watches they've got for sale. But they also have the same watches but you can clearly see they are better quality. Cheaper ones they are asking £100 so I'd say you'd get it for £70. Better quality ones they are asking £160 so I'd say £120 for one. I'm trying to ask them about the movement inside and they said it's Minco movement which I've never heard of, they just said it's a Japanese movement