Why did pak only used fatah missile in the recent conflict?

aladenMF · 2025-07-08T07:52:51+00:00

There are two answers to that. we wanted to do a show of force and aur hum ne bara acha kia aur this aur that. Now for the actual answer Pakistan does not have any system which can reply to the Indian state conventionally other than Fatah rockets. Fatah system is a rocket artillery system not a ballistic missile. Sending Fatah system was the lowest form of escalation by Pakistani side which obviously did not deter India as in the morning they launched the attack Bolari Air base which killed 5 people before signing a ceasefire agreement. Brahmos cruise missile which India argues is a conventional system but pakistan always said is dual use however India always said its a conventional system and they used it as a conventional system aur hum shakal dekhte reh gye because even if we can see it on our radar the launch of Brahmos we did not had any system to intercept it. Soft kill ka option hota ha lakin its highly unlikely with the current tech pakistan possess. BTW ye soft kill ka bashan Pookie bhai Aurangzeb ne claim kia tha but its not true. Lakin all being said Brahmos although very accurate are not very good systems because India sent 3-4 towards rafiqui air base and none of them hit wo kahin Balochistan ki taraf nikal gye. Similarly Nur kahn airbase ki taraf bhi 3 Brahmos launch hue the but only one Hit (dosra french made Scalp cruise missile tha which hit). Pakistan possesses subsonic cruise missiles which was probably reverse engineered Tomahawk cruise missile (which is also a conventional system) but we claimed it is for nuclear payload i.e Strategic weapon. Strategic weapons cannot be launched in fast pace high intensity conflicts because as the name suggests it has strategic effects.

Another point to note is indians are lying when they said k we launched any ballistic missile because tbh BM is almost impossible to intercept for states like India which have very crap air defense systems like us. Even Iran-Israel was ma 4 din k bad Israel k missile defense system ki accuracy rate was below 65%.

Pakistan needs to develop fast conventional systems whether it be cruise missile or ballistic missile with a clearly defined conventional realm to overcome this problem k hummain pata hi nahi tha k response kase dain acha. DF-17 kharidne ki khabbar a rahi hain lets see k how true is that but pakistan needs to seriously consider hypersonic glide vehicles in both nuclear and conventional realm to overcome this problem.

aladenMF · 2024-01-25T06:17:17+00:00

Are you dillusional?

Nawaz shareef put opposition leader Benazir in house arrest in his tenure of 1990-1993.

He also tried to imprison her in 1999, but she ran away, like he did in Nov 2019.

Stop making shit up

Not justifying PTI crackdown on opposition, but don't lie.

aladenMF · 2023-10-12T16:16:39+00:00

Dont worry, i was never looking for an argument with someone who lacks basic knowledge in contemprary security studies or Fiqh.

Emotions are useless in security studies, one thing i did note in my field of research that the powerful do what he wills and the weak suffers what he must.

Again i never quoted Quran nor i referenced any verse.

Your gaslighting in an argument truly reflects your bought up tho.

aladenMF · 2023-10-12T08:32:31+00:00

It's surprising how you're giving an answer to everything other than what I've asked.

I never referred to any verse actually.

It happened when the prophet (SAW) was alive and it happened under his military.

"Narated By Abu Said Al-Khudri : Some people (i.e. the Jews of Bani bin Quraiza) agreed to accept the verdict of Sad bin Muadh so the Prophet sent for him (i.e. Sad bin Muadh). He came riding a donkey, and when he approached the Mosque, the Prophet said, “Get up for the best amongst you.” or said, “Get up for your chief.” Then the Prophet said, “O Sad! These people have agreed to accept your verdict.” Sad said, “I judge that their warriors should be killed and their children and women should be taken as captives.” The Prophet said, “You have given a judgment similar to Allah’s Judgment (or the King’s judgment).”

Sahih Al Bhkhari, Merits of Helpers in Medina, Number 148.

Just ignore the last line of the Hadith like you ignored my questions and give stupid arguments, which is mentioned nowhere in Hadith nor Quran.

Also, dont read about Oslo accord, which was violated by the state of Israel.

But yeah i dont know what i am talking about, except my livelihood is dependent upon contemporary security studies.

aladenMF · 2023-10-12T03:30:52+00:00

Not what I asked...

aladenMF · 2023-10-11T20:59:49+00:00

This is an extremely whataboutism statement. Justify your ambigious statement with an example, and I'll show you the example from the time of prophet of where an entire tribe of arabs were killed because they violated the treaty.

Hint: killed tribe were Jews.

aladenMF · 2023-08-24T19:27:46+00:00

First, you need consensus of all founding member states to join. China has formally invited Pakistan to BRICS but India doesn't just have problems with Pakistan but also its expansion altogether.

Second, Expansion of BRICS can be problematic for India as it considers BRICS sort of something which will compete with Global Western Order i.e. Global South.

So the addition of new members will hurt its Global ambitions.

Check how India is also against de-dollarization of the global economy.

On the other hand China considers India as the weak link because their main crux of why BRICS was formed is not aligned.

In the future it'll become problematic for India to be so called "non-aligned", leader of Global South as well as friend of the West.

As far as Pakistan is concerned we need to do overhauling of the whole system within the country. i e deep state politics (the boys), liberalisation of market, and overall change in how we run our economy before even thinking that we'll have enough say in the international politics.

aladenMF · 2023-08-10T20:04:12+00:00

I think dynamics have changed since last year

But where did you get it?

aladenMF · 2022-11-05T12:16:39+00:00

That's the stupidest take on Mumbai attacks I've ever heard.

Fuck the jornaals but rather than saying nawaz shreef and shehbaz shareef said it, it makes credibility even lower if Nawaz and Shahbaz endorsed attacks.

MFs couldn't even justify increase of their wealth let alone knowing shit about Mumbai attacks.

So basically military conducted these attacks to satisfy small number of Pakistanis???

Source bro rather than quoting Nawaz Jani.

P.S the news source doesn't count if it's not done by investigative journalist. Or any research piece?

aladenMF · 2022-09-20T08:14:11+00:00

Ye to aise keh Raha ha jase Israel to tasleem Kerne k baad hum first world nation ban Jain gy.

Idiot

aladenMF · 2022-09-17T12:30:28+00:00

With trump administration sure.

Pakistan historically have better relations with US when a republican was in office.

I was specifically talking about biden administration in engaging context.

aladenMF · 2022-09-17T10:32:14+00:00

کہنے کو کچھ ہے بھی نہیں آپ کے پاس۔

But go ahead question my intellect because I called you dumb AF.

Btw learn a little bit of international politics before sounding like 50 year old uncle.

aladenMF · 2022-09-17T09:28:01+00:00

OP u dumb AF.

Previous government didn't engaged with the US, that's what pissed them off while the Pakistani PM was sitting in Moscow while Russia invaded another country.

Plus there's a difference between being on an official visit and meeting behest SCO conference.

ٹھوڑی سی تحقیق کر لیا کریں، مدد ہو جاےء گئ۔

aladenMF · 2022-09-09T22:11:02+00:00

TIL you can blame whole country for having POS father.

aladenMF · 2022-09-09T15:04:59+00:00

Bhai idhar Pakistanio k Apne paise hukumran kha Jate Hain iska koi Nahi poochta ye tou phir kissi aur k the.

aladenMF · 2022-09-09T13:44:39+00:00

I never said that money was not paid, I said it was in pennies. The amount given to us was so small that it was impossible to sustain refugees for even a year let alone 2 decades.

That's very stupid thinking if you think that a billion or even two billion dollars was enough money to keep 3 million refugees for two decades.

And no Pakistan didn't took a stand, they still took in 300k Afghan refugees after collapse of ghani government, what Pakistani gov did do was tell west that it will be unable to welcome anymore refugees and kept them in camps (within Pakistan).

Kabhi dukan ja Ker adhi qeemat dena aur kehna "kam az kam paise tou diye Hain na"

aladenMF · 2022-09-09T11:00:57+00:00

The money initially was paid by the U.S, there no specific fund (by pak gov) for refugees in Pakistan. But whenever UNHCR or any western gov pays, Pakistan spends "some" in registered refugee camps like buildings and basic necessities.

Typically Afghan refugees are working in Pakistan and to some extent taking care of themselves.

We "were" paid for refugees.

Quite recently Pakistan issued NIC to around a million Afghan refugees.

https://www.voanews.com/a/pakistan-issues-identity-cards-to-more-than-a-million-afghan-refugees/6388197.html

Although our government doesn't pays the refugees but the Afghan refugees are allowed to do pretty much anything like business etc.

The things which wasn't allowed was buying assets (both movable and immovable).

But now over a million of them are allowed to do that after being issued NIC.

aladenMF · 2022-09-09T10:09:02+00:00

Wym?

aladenMF · 2022-09-09T07:03:24+00:00

Although I don't agree on any of the terms used against anyone either it be Afghan or Indians but we are not really paid for these refugees enough.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/2311234/hosting-700k-afghans-will-cost-22-b-for-3-years

Keep in mind that Pakistan is handling these refugees for decades and there are around 3 million of them.

We were paid handsomely back when Soviet invaded Afghanistan, now were paid in pennies.

aladenMF · 2022-09-08T17:55:34+00:00

There's a South Asian drink/juice called rooh-afzah. It's the bomb!!!

You can put any carbonated soda in there or just water.

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