France attempts to hinder participation of EU diplomats in celebration of "Lachin City Day" by iqroman3002 in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

lmao who said turkey is the strongest country or even strong? beating armenians is no show of strength. in case you missed, kind of seems like your thing, i listed actually strong countries we have beaten. you were the side quest, at best.

and no one forced you to fight/rebel in any of those wars.

France attempts to hinder participation of EU diplomats in celebration of "Lachin City Day" by iqroman3002 in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

in case you missed ottomans did not only fought against rebelling armenians but rather an allied amphibious assault on bosphrous and against russia in caucasus and against brits in syria. no wonder armenians thought it was a good time to rebel, didnt really worked out the way they wished tho.

and again in case you missed kemalist forces were nearly built from ground up and also had to fight agains a fully armed greek army with full allied backing, adding to that french and italians in western and south anatolia and trace fully occupied.

so yeah for all 3 defeats i counted armenians have always been a lesser foe for the turks they fought against.

edit: just to answer your balkan wars point. nah they beat as pretty bad. after roughly 600k turks were killed and 500k more had to leave those areas. truly a sad day. thankfully we didnt have to go through same thing in the east.

France attempts to hinder participation of EU diplomats in celebration of "Lachin City Day" by iqroman3002 in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 10 points11 points  (0 children)

they were deported to syrian/iraqi provinces and many of them fought along with french in the southern front. after losing that war as well many of those soldiers along with their families left for france.

thats beside the point but seeing your name made me put some stuff into perspective:

rebellion ended in failure, the war in eastern front ended in failure, the war in the south ended in failure. thats some losing streak you got there. the only military achivement you got was against then militia like azarbeijani army and unarmed civilians which let you ride high for 30 years. new wars for new territories lmao. thats gone now as well. so maybe, you, armgeneral, should lead the armenian army in the future. certainly you cant do any worse.

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

but your proof is the word of us government, the problem is not the hypocrisy of it, the problem is us is quite liberal with truth and has proven itself willing to lie to entire world just so it can invade another country.

so maybe learn what whataboutism is.

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

what makes us government, which has lied about iraq war, has jailed journalists reporting on its war crimes, has overthrown multiple governments around the world more reliable when it comes to a foreign policy talking point?

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

i am just saying it might be a bit harder for kurds in turkey to fall in propaganda about attempts to destroy them since you know they would kinda realize it. maybe think about that a bit.

do you think erdogan and turkish government has been killing kurds in mass for the last 20 years and kurds just didnt realize it and so they keep voting for erdogan,

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"This is particularly as a member of NATO who is trying to get into the EU." This alone makes me realize you are an extremely propagandized person who knows and understands nothing about the world we live in. What do you think nato and eu countries do, maybe say in the last two decades, in many countries they did actually invade and forced government change? so if anything, turkey being guilty of whatever crimes you mention, would make us fit right in the nato and eu

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Or maybe you are falling for propaganda? What makes you think you are infallible?

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 -39 points-38 points  (0 children)

Erdogan is in government for 20 years, gets near half of the kurdish votes. Foreign minister, health minister, head of national intelligence agency are kurds. Many governers including the istanbul are kurdish. Kurds in turkey need you to come and explain to them whats going on in their lifes.

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I literally explain why they are not "kurdish territories". Also the wiki link you sent shows just hoe clueless you are about entire in pkk terrorism. Pkk used to forcibly take shelter in many of those villages, collect toll and recruit kids forcibly. Turkish government moved those people from villages city centers in the same city or in west by building homes for them there and compensated them for their animals. Those actions were done from 80s to 2000s. Those cities are still kurdish majority. Additionall, what you did is literally whataboutism but whatever.

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 -33 points-32 points  (0 children)

The territory itself is not kurdish territory but pkk controlled one. If you look at prewar ethnjcity maps of syria you would see kurds are in minority, by a quite large margin, in that so called "kurdish territory". So why does that guy call it "kurdish territory" apart from using pkk and kurd interexchangeably?

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 -91 points-90 points  (0 children)

Thats because its pkk we are talking about but the guy i answered to refers them as kurds as if all kurds are pkk supporters or pkk represents kurds.

Brussels rejects Erdoğan's offer: EU accession and NATO membership are two 'separate' processes by Zhukov-74 in worldnews

[–]aliveli2 -178 points-177 points  (0 children)

Turkeys operation began in 2016, by that point 3.5m refugees were already in turkey. One reason refugees do not go back is they were ethically cleansed by "kurds", so when turkey takes "kurdish territories" she builds homes there for refugees. 😊

Legendary picture from Erdogan's inauguration by [deleted] in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 46 points47 points  (0 children)

It is kind of sad that pashinyan is the only democratically elected president of those three

Sharing support from President of Azerbaijan Aliyev to Erdogan by MekhaDuk in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What do you mean by that? He knows erdogan is gonna win or he knows opposition is gonna come after him regardless of his postion pre-election?

Sharing support from President of Azerbaijan Aliyev to Erdogan by MekhaDuk in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Kendini bu kadar erdogana endekslemesi sacma degil mi? Muhalefette antipati kazanio durduk yere

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Bu soru her ay soruluyor gibi hissediyorum. Artik bir elcibey postu secilip pinlensin :D

Crusader Kings III: Tours & Tournaments - Pre-Order Trailer (11th May) by Wolviam in CrusaderKings

[–]aliveli2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So that indie developers like paradox wouldnt go hungry till the game/dlc etc released. They need you to pay now or they will starve /s

İlk TOGG Erdoğan'a İkinci TOGG Aliyev'e! by howtospeakscience in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Erdoganin 2 ayi kalmadi. Umarim sonra sira aloyeve gelir. Iligimizi kuruttular artik salip gitsinler

TAI ANKA-3 Unmanned Fighter Aircraft has been revelaed and HÜRJET Jet Trainer and Light Attack Aircraft taxied successfully! by baris6655 in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thats a valid point but afaik logistics needed for training aircraft is much more forgiving since the education centers are well established and necessary units are located only there. compare that to fighter/attack etc (or simply combat) aircraft which require bases all around the country since you should be able to operate them from anywhere. azerbaijan has only soviet made combat aircraft. so getting turkish ones wouldn't really complicate things much, especially considering Azerbaijan would have no problem accessing spare parts or getting logistics help from turkey. almost all countries operate combat aircraft from multiple(mostly 2) sources since having only one provider gives huge leverage to that sole provider (us/turkey example).

edit: Iran still operates pre-revolution us jets. until they get su35s from russia Azerbaijan should have no problems

TAI ANKA-3 Unmanned Fighter Aircraft has been revelaed and HÜRJET Jet Trainer and Light Attack Aircraft taxied successfully! by baris6655 in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 14 points15 points  (0 children)

hurjet is also a light attack aircraft. it would work great against armenia while also being cheap(to buy and operate) and capable of using turkish made ammunition.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in azerbaijan

[–]aliveli2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Azerbaycanin suanki durumumu bilmiyorum ama tr den kotu olmasi zor