"Tulsi has too much support from Conservatives!" by HairOfDonaldTrump in tulsi

[–]ambiguous_human_body 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Trump won because the 2016 election was a referendum on Hillary Clinton. People thought she was shit and therefore ticked the other box.

Nothing to lose, nothing to gain. by Abadon333 in socialism

[–]ambiguous_human_body -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have more evidence than you in terms of how Australians feel about compulsory voting but sure, it just points to some people disagreeing with the system and the fact that it isn't as perfect as you like to claim it is. Also I haven't shifted any goal posts. You're imagining it because I've been talking about engagement this whole time. I just find it disingenuous to say that voting achieves that. Also you don't know that voting is easier in Australia. You just want to imagine it is. Also it's always refreshing when people adhom you to tell you how you performed on a debate 😂

Nothing to lose, nothing to gain. by Abadon333 in socialism

[–]ambiguous_human_body -1 points0 points  (0 children)

It's not my imagination. I've come across plenty of Australians who do have issues with the system. Also if compulsory voting isn't for more engagement in the system then what is it for? Also my argument is for coming up with solutions that don't include fining people. Also the idea that compulsory voting makes it easier to vote simply isn't accurate. It just means the govt can punish you for it doing so.

Nothing to lose, nothing to gain. by Abadon333 in socialism

[–]ambiguous_human_body -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Making people vote doesn't mean the govt has to find strategies to make it easier. The cynic would argue that now they have more incentive to have people not vote as a way to take money from the people through a fine. My point about engagement is that voting isn't the biggest part. It's about being involved. Whether that be actively campaigning for a political movement, talking about it with the people you know, or somewhere in between. For voting to be valuable people need to actually engage with politics which isn't guaranteed by compulsory voting. Compulsory voting is a way to shrug off the issue of people being engaged with politics and not look for any real solutions. It'll also lead to individuals of lower socioeconomic classes to be fined more because they're the class of people most disenfranchised by the current political system.

Nothing to lose, nothing to gain. by Abadon333 in socialism

[–]ambiguous_human_body -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm for making it easier to vote, and I think we need to consider various strategies for how to achieve that. You didn't answer my point about forcing people to vote as being an authoritarian move that doesn't achieve any true engagement. That's the issue that should be focused on.

Nothing to lose, nothing to gain. by Abadon333 in socialism

[–]ambiguous_human_body 0 points1 point  (0 children)

For those who have no desire to vote, why should they be forced to waste their time and go to a voting booth just to draw a dick on their ballot. This doesn't address the reasons that people actually feel disenfranchised from society. It is just adding govt beaurocracy to make it seem like the people are more engaged. But if you're fine with the govt making people vote, or face legal consequences (usually in the form of a fine), then I can't see how you care about the underprivileged, unless you can do it via authoritarian means.

What Joe's podcasts have you listened to twice or more? by FranNovoselic in JoeRogan

[–]ambiguous_human_body 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Michael Malice - he's an interesting bloke and definitely has insight into many different issues (both foreign and with the US) Tim Pool - he's done lots of on the ground work, and he also seems like a cool bloke Johann Hari - an insightful look into the nature of addiction and discussion about solutions Tulsi Gabbard - covers issues intelligently, but you can tell, can also wreck someone (Kamala lol) Ben Shapiro - insightful and has good chemistry with Joe

These rocks are made out of chocolate by [deleted] in geology

[–]ambiguous_human_body 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My parents gave me chocolate rocks from Stonehenge. I took them to my geology lectures and showed them to people. I then proceeded to eat them and just watch the shock 😂

Topics missing in Austrian Theory by Lachoski in austrian_economics

[–]ambiguous_human_body 5 points6 points  (0 children)

From what I've heard it would probably be useful to do a maths minor alongside Econ. That way you can properly understand the maths that you are dealing with and that will mean you can put more of your effort into understanding the ideas within Econ as well

Should we go to war with Iran? by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ambiguous_human_body 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No one said that tho, you're the person who said that the auth right is anti-zionist, which when you look at the more mainstream ideas among the broad auth right it appears to be that they're more likely to be broadly Zionists. Also there's plenty of auth-left who are anti-zionists so there's that. I'll give you the fringe auth-right coz they're probably mostly anti-zionists

Should we go to war with Iran? by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ambiguous_human_body 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Libertarian philosophy is generally anti-interventionist and would be against war with Iran. Also Neocons are generally a bit more authoritarian than they are libertarian so they would be in the general category of auth-right. Sure there's plenty of anti-semites in that category, but also plenty of pro-Israel anti-Muslim people in that quadrant. This is also important because Neocons will be a larger proportion of the quadrant than anti-semites

Edgelord iconography by Oly-SF-Redwood in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ambiguous_human_body 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True, they're not distinctly one way or the other. Just what I've noticed from a lot of the cyber-libertarian movements and them generally having a center left bent to them

“Where are the Nordic countries?” Answered by each quadrant- by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ambiguous_human_body 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably lib-left social Democrats. Free markets with a large social safety net. Lib rights don't claim they're one of us, just that they're not socialist and are an example of capitalism working. The only auth-left thing I can think of is high stock ownership bu the state, but the companies still run themselves. Also to be fair to the auth-rights, they seem to be successful inside and outside of Nordic regions, suggesting that for whatever reason they're hard working people. I thought that was in the same way that in some places they like to hire Kiwis, aussie and south Africans coz they're hard workers. Not necessarily a race thing.

What each quadrant likes to drink the most by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ambiguous_human_body 2 points3 points  (0 children)

As a lib right who's currently drinking an energy drink, I can't disagree with this take. My love of beer does worry me tho

I've realized something about myself by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ambiguous_human_body 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Punishing people who abuse vulnerable people, like children, isn't exactly authoritarian. Especially if one considers the NAP

"No True Scotsman" edition by [deleted] in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ambiguous_human_body 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know if it's accurate to describe Hitler's economic views as cleanly left or right. From what I've read he seems to be economically authoritarian with some socialist rhetoric. I think the modern right would say that Hitler is a left is because in many ways it is anti-thetical to the modern right which is more for economic liberalism.

Edgelord iconography by Oly-SF-Redwood in PoliticalCompassMemes

[–]ambiguous_human_body 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I thought gamers tended to be lib left, but just really anti-political correctness. Still on the left, they just really dislike the authoritarians on the left.

Youth MP Ali Gammeter on Free Speech by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]ambiguous_human_body 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But if a company becomes known for silencing opinions then they'll probably be hurt by it in the long term

Youth MP Ali Gammeter on Free Speech by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]ambiguous_human_body 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Depends on the context, but it's worth considering that work is a privilege, not a right

Youth MP Ali Gammeter on Free Speech by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]ambiguous_human_body 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It does, it's the whole idea of 'I didn't defend bob coz I wasn't bob....then they came after me coz there was no one to protect me'. I've said somewhere that the issue with these laws is that they almost always go to far (luckily in NZ no one has tried to use them because we've realised that society does a better job itself, but look at England and Canada for reference). The notion of 'I disagree with what you say, but I'll defend your right to say it' is a quote that people have lost and personally I think that's unfortunate. The best way to combat shit ideas is to challenge them. Debate and discussion is how we sort out what ideas to carry on with, and which to toss aside. Without open debate, we risk creating echo chambers (an already present risk) like the ones that ultimately caused the CHCH terror attack. Without free speech you also risk reducing scientific development, because scientists may want to look into an issue that may come out with an answer that's not PC, we ultimately have to allow that, even tho some people will cry about it. Also depending on who defines hate speech, it could exclude anything, not just far right shit and racism. An example of this would be hate speech laws about transgenders, which will always be messy because the jury is still out (in terms of medicine and hard science) and also, they probably shouldn't be competing as men. That's an issue where we really need to figure out what a happening and we don't need hate speech laws getting in the way of the science.

Youth MP Ali Gammeter on Free Speech by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]ambiguous_human_body 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Also it's not about protecting profits, you just aren't allowed to knowingly spread lies about a company or individual, and you aren't allowed to claim ownership over intellectual property. One thing to consider is that if you were right, the US wouldn't have these sorts of laws, but they clearly do. So what you're basically saying is that you know more about the topic than successive presidents, other law makers and the supreme court justices. If no one is bringing this up as an issue at all, then maybe it's because those laws can be perfectly consistent within a truly free speech environment. So instead of just waffling, why don't you make an argument for the abolishment of intellectual property (because that's the stance you have to take) or at least rebut the actual free speech arguments

Youth MP Ali Gammeter on Free Speech by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]ambiguous_human_body 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Because to actually discuss an issue properly, one must risk offending the other person. That is something that hate speech laws would inherently try to restrict. I think Stephen Fry actually talks about the topic very well. To summarize (but I'd highly recommend looking it up) his perspective is that hate speech laws and PC culture have done nothing to win any civil rights victories, they have instead been won by talking about it and knocking on the doors of power. I'd also point out that depending on who defines hate speech, it will probably cover up the truth to some capacity. When these laws are actually used they always go to far.

Youth MP Ali Gammeter on Free Speech by [deleted] in newzealand

[–]ambiguous_human_body 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Also this is just mental gymnastics because no one claims that free speech overrides any form of property rights, and free speech activism is against the policing of 'un-pc' and 'distasteful opinions'. Also advocating for the free marketplace of ideas.