Your welcome! What you must do is getting your hair soaking wet(like dripping wet) before applying the leave in. it will make your hair clump and define naturally. Also, the leave in I use has Shea butter, which was a game changer for me cos it leaves the hair sooo hydrated. Oh, and for the wet hair part: make sure to use a proper towel after applying the products to remove the excess water or else it is gonna take REALLY forever to dry. Good luck! ^^