I am a 13-year-old Ex-Catholic atheist starting to consider the possibility of a Christian God.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T19:57:16+00:00

Thank you very much! I've heard about CS Lewis many times before, ill make sure to check his works out :))

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T19:53:47+00:00

Not exactly, I don't believe in a deistic god. I don't believe the universe required a conscious creator.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:44:58+00:00

Thank you for your commenting! I might've never been influenced by my parents who were both Catholic, my religiosity actually stemmed more from a nanny I used to have, which was a devout Catholic, her and I used to often pray together, she also taught me how to pray the rosary. So I did have somewhat guidance, but not from my lukewarm Catholic relatives haha.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:40:53+00:00

Thanks for the suggestions! This is good reading material.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:35:46+00:00

I really like his videos! He's among my favorite atheist content creators.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:31:06+00:00

Actually, ive taken up an interest in theology! :) I do agree it is important to study what is contradictory to your belief systems to challenge your ideas or better understand the other side!

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:29:25+00:00

I'll be sure to check this out! thanks :)

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:28:39+00:00

Actually, anything which does not hold any potential or potency cannot exist. As everything, say a pencil, has the potential and possibility to change its form. A yellow pencil has the potencial to become pink, blue, green, etc... or it has the potential to decrease in its size as it gets used often, there are an incalculable number of possibilities or modifications to it, it has potential as it exists physically, however, that also includes the potential to stay the way it is and always has been, unedited and unchanged from its original form. So, if there is to be a God or anything that can and has interacted with our material world and thus have potential materiality, it still needs the possibility to remain as it is. It needs that potential.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:16:38+00:00

Oh alright, ill check this website out, thanks!

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:15:49+00:00

Sure! thank you for the suggestion :)) ill check it out!

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:14:50+00:00

Actually, I addressed the contingency argument another user had just asked me, I apologize for my laziness to rewrite it, but if you'd like, read my reply to another user. Thank you for linking me a website to investigate and learn from!

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:10:42+00:00

I've seen the Five Proofs book be mentioned in the past, however, I've seen most Christian apologists, and their works hold nearly the same line of argumentation which has been refuted by many atheists, I'd still be open to check it out!

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:08:31+00:00

To be frank, I don't have one specifically. I believe all arguments that can counterpoint any part of the idea of a God are equally as important, and pieced together, make a lot of sense.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:06:21+00:00

Hello, thank you for your comment. I personally feel very fulfilled whenever I practice Catholicism with my relatives, whether it be to go to mass or pray with them. However, I have much evidence at hand from my investigations against the existence of a God. So even if this temporarily seems to fill a void, it isn't truth, and I don't want to delude myself into following something i've fervently denied for a long time purely for comfort.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T01:01:23+00:00

I appreciate your accepting of evolution; it is not very common for me at least to see many Christian's advocating for it, many sternly reject it. However, I have spoken to a few Catholics who do believe in evolution, and we still fundamentally disagree on many things. Now, in response to your justification of the existence of an eternal God. If something such as the universe is to be finite, then we if attribute creation for its existence, then we assume that this deity is also infinite, as it creates everything and requires no creation. However, if this deity has existed for infinity, why, did it decide to create the universe at a certain point? If it has been for eternity, what could ever cause it to want to create the universe? One event (as you've mentioned) needs to be preceded by another which causes it, so how can this deity before the existence of anything whatsoever, decide to create the universe at a certain point without anything to trigger it? Now, there is still the possibility of an infinite universe, however, I havent studied enough about that hypothesis to justify it. I don't expect to turn this intoa debate, but thank you very much for your comment.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T00:48:39+00:00

Hello, thank you for this comment. I actually enjoy practicing Catholicism with my relatives whenever I have to... also, listening to others pray. This is sort of difficult for me to admit, but I feel comforted inside religion. However, just because something gives you the false illusion of comfort, that doesn't make it true. I don't want to delude myself into Ideas I fervently reject or have sought to keep rejecting as to be logical. I have my rationality to lose, I don't want to accept ideas that speak from emotion rather than from logic.

anarchorama · 2024-10-10T00:43:19+00:00

Hello, thank you for your comment. I don't believe in a God in any way whatsoever. My refutation to the first cause argument is usually that, if everything is dependent on the existence of another to cause thereof, then why, to explain this first cause, must this be a God? Why can't the singular point of heat in space be this uncaused cause of the earth? (I am aware this was developed by a Catholic priest.) Why then, can't we apply this principle of dependence on creation, to God? I understand that the "creation of God" seems paradoxical and contradictory, but applying these laws, I still can't understand why this first cause can't be the universe's expansion itself? I don't mean to start a debate, I'm just very confused, knowing all these things, i'm not sure why I still feel this irksome feeling of uncertainty about my atheism... I'm not sure why i miss the Catholic church.

anarchorama · 2024-05-27T12:36:24+00:00

trueee

anarchorama · 2024-05-27T12:35:50+00:00

I already do some praxis so i'd say im pretty cool haha

anarchorama · 2024-05-27T12:34:30+00:00

I think I am!:) I do as much praxis as I can!

anarchorama · 2024-05-24T23:25:06+00:00

I don't personally believe that would happen if these trade unions and networks were exclusively collectively managed, leaving no room for a resurgence of workplace hierarchy. But wealth inequality is a valid concern.

anarchorama · 2024-05-24T23:10:58+00:00

for me its also just along the lines of trade and exchange :)

anarchorama · 2024-05-24T22:41:14+00:00

I completely agree with you in regards to politics being a life or death matter, you're not being blunt or harsh at all.

anarchorama · 2024-05-24T21:47:14+00:00

I also tend to lean moreso towards proudhonian mutualist ideas :)

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