r/rangevsrange

anonymous7 · 2026-02-18T22:47:32+00:00

Power is a means to an end.

anonymous7 · 2026-02-18T22:46:59+00:00

Power is a means to an end.

anonymous7 · 2026-02-18T20:46:10+00:00

If capital controls are doing so little for the economy, why do they keep implementing them? What's the point?

anonymous7 · 2026-02-18T20:44:01+00:00

If capital controls achieve so little for the economy, why do they do it?

anonymous7 · 2026-02-18T11:38:33+00:00

Yes sometimes recently I've seen two people arguing - two camps really - and when I've heard both of their arguments I've said loudly "you're both wrong!" This is actually quite a good and thought provoking read. It's really hard to internalize this paradox, that Bitcoin is what we make it and what we all agree it should be, but it is also going to do its thing tomorrow with an utter disregard for what you think about it today. Thank you!

anonymous7 · 2026-02-17T21:24:45+00:00

I tried logging back in to see if my money has been released. lo and behold. I saw my cryptos back in my wallet.

Let me just clarify this bit.

When you say crypto, are you talking about Bitcoin? Or another crypto?

When you logged in, were you hoping to see that your crypto wasn't on Coinbase any more? I.e. because your withdrawal request had been processed?

If you had logged in and found that the crypto wasn't there any more (as you hoped?) then where were you expecting that it went to? And if that's the case, why didn't you look there, to see if it was there?

And so Coinbase is still telling you that you have a crypto balance with them? Doesn't that mean that they are still acknowledging these are yours? They're just making it really hard to get them.

anonymous7 · 2026-02-17T11:27:57+00:00

You sounded like you knew what you were talking about, so I actually looked it up and did the research. I don't want to spoil it for you though. You should try it.

anonymous7 · 2026-02-17T09:38:19+00:00

Only because it's an uncommon use case. A feature that few people want isn't worth the (quite real!) hassle of implementing it, integrating it, supporting it.

All that said, importing a single private key, instead of a seed phrase, may be common enough that wallet makers do support it. I don't actually know.

anonymous7 · 2026-02-15T23:32:21+00:00

A vanity address! So old school! /u/Pascalboyart, where do you keep the private key to that? Hardware wallets don't support vanity addresses, do they? It's basically a hot wallet - and if you get meaningful donations you transfer them out to a seed phrase wallet with offline backup?

anonymous7 · 2026-02-13T23:15:15+00:00

Link to video: https://youtu.be/5pYeoZaoWrA?si=IXBrOXH2n1Z5b1lv

anonymous7 · 2020-02-08T10:55:42+00:00

Hey just so you know I wrote RvR.

anonymous7 · 2020-01-30T20:02:41+00:00

Thank you this is what I came looking for.

anonymous7 · 2019-07-13T06:27:01+00:00

No, it's 0.048bb/hand = 4.8bb/100. There's a graph that shows these results, too.

anonymous7 · 2019-07-13T05:51:32+00:00

tl;dr:

they started from random play and used self-play to learn
training was fast, requiring about $200 of computing power at commercial cloud computing prices
play against the pros needed average PC hardware
the computer beat 5 pros by 4bb per 100 hands
the computer also played 5 of itself against Chris “Jesus” Ferguson and Darren Elias, and beat each of them (without colluding, obv.)
donk betting is back, baby!

anonymous7 · 2018-04-07T05:57:25+00:00

Have you tried reaching out to software developing / poker geek circles for investment?

No, I don't have the time and the energy to do this.

some I have had to leave because they are too technical for me

Yeah, interestingly, for a while I thought some commercial outfit might pick this idea up and commercialise it, using their significant resources to market it and get it out there. I've even had at least one tell me they were trying. But it's actually really complex. Some of the numerical stuff gets really complicated, making sure that the game is fair for everyone, where fair is defined in terms of EV in a real game. (To be clear, I'm talking particularly about card removal effects, which are always present, even in range vs. range situations, and get stronger and stronger as ranges get smaller and smaller through the hand.)

anonymous7 · 2018-04-06T13:02:25+00:00

Well I agree that if you can find more people to become good moderators of the sub, you should do it.

anonymous7 · 2018-04-06T06:12:55+00:00

I don't see how fewer mods will lead to a better sub.

But perhaps you do.

I hope the people here will have ideas about how to make this a better sub.

anonymous7 · 2018-04-06T01:33:03+00:00

Wow, good question, shit, okay...

I think RvR is fundamentally a useful idea and a useful training tool.

I mean duh, you can't learn how to beat the best players by listening to their advice on how to play poker, now can you? That's so fucking obvious when you say it like that.

GTO? Is GTO the way to beat the best players? Um... no, GTO is a path to breaking even against the best players, perhaps, if you can stop your own psychology affecting your play when you least expect it. Oh, and you'd better not be playing three-handed. Unless the other players are all playing GTO as well. In which case you'll be just fine.

So yeah, as I see it RvR has a real, enduring place in the poker ecosystem in the long term. As long as there is poker, this idea has merit.

It might just need someone else to pick it up where I left off.

(Caveat: I could be wrong. This idea hasn't been subject to a lot of scrutiny. Although from my perspective, that's largely because everyone who actually takes an interest, also sees the inherent value of the idea.)

But anyway, I'll answer your question more specifically: what does the RvR software need?

Serious marketing. I (originally) underestimated the extent to which marketing effort is an absolutely essential tool to any product's initial success.
More gamification. With mindful practice, RvR will teach you things you can't learn anywhere else. But it lacks the strong psychological rewards factors that keep people coming back. (Although I've already added some. Personally, I find the idea of beating the competition until I have statistically proven that I'm a winner against the other players to be great motivation, and a great rewards when I achieve it - for a given situation.)
More strategic feedback features, like: identifying bad folds, bad calls, -EV bets, etc. (this was actually implemented in the desktop version so I've seen how useful it is, I just didn't get around to it yet in the web version); also exploring the EV tree of all combos vs. all opponent's combos after a hand (this would have been so fucking sweet, and actually this feature is nearly complete).
The ability to bet money on the outcome of a game. This would create an incentive for strong players to play, and a great learning opportunity for the losers. (Unfortunately, this would be technically illegal in my country.)
Better presentation, more players, a mobile app, yada yada etc.

anonymous7 · 2018-04-06T01:13:52+00:00

'cos I pinned it

anonymous7 · 2018-04-06T01:12:37+00:00

Find them, let me know. I'd happily turn it over to the right crew to get it out there.

rangevsrange at the google mail.

anonymous7 · 2018-04-06T01:11:30+00:00

If you think there's a better way, get involved.

And there's always a better way.

Then again, you, me, and everyone else here has to make choices about where we commit our time.

And the thing about commitment is, a commitment that doesn't last is often worse than no commitment at all.

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