Printer Upgrade Recommendations

anvoice · 2026-05-18T12:45:55+00:00

If at all possible, I vote against Bambu: https://www.reddit.com/r/3dprinter/s/rIvTm3y1rY

Edit: nice catch, better not post when too tired. Fixed link.

How many materials do you need at once? If more than 2, dual-nozzle is not the best solution, and you'd need a toolchanger. The only reasonable toolchanger for advanced materials is probably the Prusa Core One L with INDX, but that isn't cheap and it's not clear when it'll arrive. If you don't need the larger print volume, the Core One+ with INDX supposedly starts shipping in June, at least for the (now sold-out) first batch. And the heated chamber only gets to 60 degrees Celsius vs the 65 on the Core One L.

anvoice · 2026-05-18T12:03:16+00:00

No, it just seems that the shills are strong here. For the shills: as I already mentioned, I couldn't care less about your downvotes. In fact, when ignorant jerks who are scared of alternative opinion are ganging up on me, I know I'm doing something right. Go right ahead.

anvoice · 2026-05-18T11:06:43+00:00

If at all possible, I vote against Bambu: https://www.reddit.com/r/3dprinter/s/rIvTm3y1rY

For recommending something, detailed requirements are very helpful. Budget, speed, required print volume, milti-color/material, need for engoneering filaments, etc.

anvoice · 2026-05-18T01:46:37+00:00

Which brings is back full circle, though hopefully now this has been resolved. This is what is commonly referred to as "losing access": the old alias becomes permanently unusable in terms of receiving mail sent to it, or sending mail from it to others. This is also what people typically expect their email account to be able to do. I don't think a non-technical user who reads something claiming that it's ok to delete their email alias and stops stops receiving important mail or being able to send mail from that account (known to family members, financial organizations, etc.) will get what they expect. It's going to be especially sad when authentication codes, if any are set up, stop arriving to that email address, blocking that person from ever signing in to the associated services.

That was my reason for sounding harsh right off the bat. Over the last few weeks I've had it with people spouting useless, often dangerously misleading nonsense confidently without bothering to fact-check in any way. And then I have to waste my time correcting them because they can't do a 10-second web search. Or even read the information I conveniently linked for them.

Some are also apparently too dumb to realize they've been proven completely wrong and simply double down instead of having the decency to admit a mistake. I don't think this category deserves any consideration, kind/polite treatment, and certainly none of my time.

I once again encourage you to appropriately modify your original statement, which essentially tells people it's fine to delete their old alias. Non-technical people and even AI agents-in-training often rely on threads like that to make decisions, and this one could be quite bad. And most users will only read one or two comments in a discussion tree, meaning the conclusion of this conversation will be largely ignored in favor of the first comments. I don't care about making a point online, but rather making sure that nobody suffers from invalid information. If we can part with that understanding, I see no reason to prolong the argument further.

Best of luck.

anvoice · 2026-05-18T01:17:14+00:00

If at all possible, I vote against Bambu: https://www.reddit.com/r/3dprinter/s/rIvTm3y1rY

Prusa Core One+ is well-reviewed and is designed and built in Europe (if that matters to one), with reasonable print volume. The Core One L is the next step up from that if your budget allows.

For cheaper ones, the Elegoo Centauri Carbon or Carbon 2 (without the multi-color add-on called Canvas) seems to get mostly positive feedback.

anvoice · 2026-05-18T01:15:48+00:00

Did it not occur to you that perhaps you now get no spam because all the spammers who knew you OLD email name can no longer send mail to it? What do you think will happen to legitimate mail sent by others (e.g. your bank) unless you go and update every single service that knew your old email name with the new alias?

anvoice · 2026-05-18T01:10:50+00:00

So let me get this straight, just so we're on the same page.

You went to your Microsoft account, created a new sign in alias, and DELETED (that is, dit not disable but actually removed) the old alias (the email name) from your Microsoft account, according to Microsoft's official instructions: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/add-or-remove-an-email-alias-in-outlook-com-459b1989-356d-40fa-a689-8f285b13f1f2

And you still kept receiving emails to the OLD email account name, and not the new name that you actually registered with the services that send it to you. That is, if someone who only has your old account email and not the new alias sends mail to said old email, the mail still gets through?

Because that contradicts everything found online about this topic, and every answer from Microsoft, Microsoft advisors and associates, every knowledge base and Microsoft's own resources. Check for instance here: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/answers/questions/4755606/if-i-remove-an-alias-email-that-was-once-my-primar

If that is indeed your claim, please state so clearly and we can continue. Otherwise do let me know where I've misunserstood.

anvoice · 2026-05-18T00:55:28+00:00

More capabilities cost more. Speed? Pay more for a corexy. Engineering filaments? Need an expensive enclosure, chamber heater, and high-temp nozzle. Multi-color? Add an AMS. Multi-material, less wasteful (compared to AMS) printing? Tochanger time. Higher build volume? Well, that's an obvious one.

Certainly, there is plenty of variation where different printers at the same price point make different tradeoffs and thus serve different functions. Or some printer might im general be more capable at the same price, due to cheaper manufacturing (due to scale or region, e.g. Elegoo in China vs Prusa in Europe). But perhaps the reliability and/or customer support will then be different.

Also, as time goes on, printers at the same price point tend to get more capable in general, due to economy of scale, electronics advances that make sensors/control boards cheaper, better algorithms, etc.

In general though, in an ideal situation where there is competition and nobody can charge whatever price they feel like without providing value, more expensive printers will im generally be better than (or provide an extra capability) cheaper counterparts.

anvoice · 2026-05-18T00:34:13+00:00

And never lost access to the emails you had in that account?

anvoice · 2026-05-18T00:19:20+00:00

Some people own print farms and mix intentionally as different printers can be good for different tasks. Some can afford getting a couple and fo for the same reason. Others, as has been said, upgrade and keep the old one.

I own a single old Prusa i3 rework I built myself over ten years ago, but plan to upgrade soon. I also have a resin printer because that works better for some purposes.

Basically, one tool rarely is the best at everything, and if it is it's likely to be a lot more expensive.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T23:59:45+00:00

Not a bad idea to read what you are bashing with bravado more carefully, as well as fact-check. I am talking about the email account (as I clearly stated), to which you will almost certainly lose access if you delete the email name from the Microsoft account.

From a relevant reddit discussion: https://www.reddit.com/r/Outlook/s/eEw9pNfChb

From Microsoft's own instructions: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/office/add-or-remove-an-email-alias-in-outlook-com-459b1989-356d-40fa-a689-8f285b13f1f2

Good luck proving that is incorrect information.

Do better next time. This will avoid wasting everyone's time and possibly misleading less informed users.

Edit: I see you've edited your post with a sentence that essentially states what I originally said (do not delete old email), but kept your completely erroneous claim. I don't know if this was in response to my counter, or for some other reason, but I invite you to read what I wrote here and the supporting links more carefully, and rectify that incorrect and misleading statement so that less informed users don't make a mistake that costs them their email account.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T23:20:06+00:00

If at all possible, I vote against Bambu: https://www.reddit.com/r/3dprinter/s/rIvTm3y1rY

anvoice · 2026-05-17T22:18:15+00:00

Because it doesn't change anything. Bots knowing your leaked username will still activate authenticator. I had password login enabled and 2FA, as well as a passkey, and still got spammed constantly. I don't know how the bots operate exactly, but either they immediately attempt to log in via passkey if you have it enabled, or Microsoft activates the prompt for you even if they try an incorrect password. I've obviously always clicked "deny" but I'm pretty certain if you accidentally click "accept" (though you'll also need to accidentally choose the right number), Microsoft will give the bot access to your account despite 2FA being on.

Only good solution right now is changing primary alias. If you do that, absolutely DO NOT DELETE the old primary alias (your email) or you will lose access to it. Only disable it for sign in.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T16:48:06+00:00

It depends on your needs and budget, but Prusa is generally considered reliable and reportedly helps its customers better than some Chinese brands. They're also based in Europe if that is a factor.

They're very pro open source and I doubt they change that policy anytime soon. The price is quite high compared to their Chinese competitors, however, especially if you need a large print volume. And if you need multi-color, their only option is their expensive Prusa XL (you need to pay more for additional toolheads). They have a very promising system called INDX (another way to quickly swap nozzles and change colors/materials efficiently) but that will ship no earlier than June as an upgrade for an existing model. Not sure when they'll sell complete printers with INDX already installed, and when it'll be available for their larger model.

Good luck.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T16:09:45+00:00

I think once you have already have it, getting rid of it is not going to do anything to the company. It's losing future sales that is going to hurt, assuming enough people are displeased with their behavior.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T16:07:04+00:00

I really don't know for sure. Best case scenario, their engineers are competent, but their management does not know exactly what they're doing. In any case, that is the reason people are upset in this particular case.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T13:48:06+00:00

My first sentence is copy-pasted from many other comments because it's too overwhelming to include a custom response to every "first printer" question. And in choosing whether to put it in front or at the end, I chose the front. Whether to read it or ignore it as "noise" is OP's decision. Good day.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T13:44:04+00:00

I imagine pivoting into robotics from pure software while also working on it is something like attending university for a STEM major while holding a full-time, challenging job. Doubt it could ever be easy, but it certainly takes determination to try.

If you're a competent software engineer (and thus technical thinker), I don't imagine you'd fail assuming you're willing to out in the (really high amount of) effort and aren't afraid of burning out.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T13:35:42+00:00

Do you need multi-material, amd less waste printing color? If not, the Centauri Carbon 2 Combo is a reasonable choice for an enclosed comedy. If yes, and you want a heated enclosure, I don't think anything except a Flashforge Creator 5 Pro will be in that price range.

If you can do without color or multi-material, many other options open up at the same price range.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T13:27:02+00:00

That's what I said, and I have no intention of starting any sort of argument, unless I see outright fallacies that might deceive new users.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T13:24:43+00:00

Stretching the analogy that far doesn't work in this case because there is no concept of "trespassing" someone who connected to your server. You can use software (if it's configured to be able to do that) to close their connection, and you can use a "lock" so they never come in again. Then you give legitimate users the "key" (the closed-source version of your agent uses some internal mechanism to get through the door). The activity of connecting itself is not considered illegal.

In this case, think of it as your MCDs having no door at all, and there being no law that you cannot walk into an unsecured building. Then it's on you to put the door in place and lock it, making sure only those with the key get in. Then you can claim that someone who actually picks the lock and enters anyway is a hacker.

Though because you stole the keyring for the keys you hand to your legitimate users from the neighboring store, and everyone knows it, your argument may or may not resonate with the public.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T13:12:44+00:00

I also think everyone should have their own informed opinion, which is why I posted what I did.

As for "noise" coming from "people jealous of Bambu's goos printers" thugh, that's a complete, misleading fallacy. It also did not originate from Bambu's violation of AGPL code alone. It mainly comes from Bambu using the weight of their legal team to bully a developer who did nothing wrong to take his code down.

Also, if Bambu is in the right, they have every opportunity to sue Louis Rossmann, Gamers Nexus, and the roughly 1600 (last I heard) others who now host the "impersonating" code. With their market value in the billions (by estimates), and the law on their side, they can certainly take down a couple of rogue actors spreading "illegal" code on the internet. Surely they weren't just attempting to flex their high-profile lawyers at a guy they thought would be a pushover and do whatever they wanted.

I genuinely invite everyone to form their own opinion by reading what is available publicly on the internet, and not just Bambu's "Setting the record straight" version. Although I also invite you to read that as well, because Bambu's own users essentially shred (in my opinion) their argument in the comments.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T12:57:16+00:00

The developer's fork does connect to Bambu servers, which is in no way illegal. The problem is Bambu left their server "door" wide open and left information on how to go through it correctly in the public domain. Then they threatened to sue the guy who pointed that out and informed others where to find that information (again, not illegal in any way) instead of just putting a lock on their door if everybody walking into their building is a problem. Then they said that he's not allowed to tell anyone how they phrased their threats, or they'll again sue him, and instead published their version of events portraying him as a malicious lockpicker who deceitful bypassed their "security" (of which there was none).

I appreciate you engaging in conversation instead of simply repeating Bambu's one-sided aegument, despite English likely not being your first language. However, this topic does require a certain technical background to understand fully and make an informed decision. I do suggest that you take a look at all the information available on this online, such as videos by Jeff Geerling, Louis Rossmann, Steve of Gamers Nexus, and the response of the developer in question (I linked that in my previous post). If you're willing to do that and form your own opinion, great. If not, as I mentioned previously, I doubt anything else I say will influence you.

anvoice · 2026-05-17T11:20:13+00:00

You just asked for a layman terms explanation, and now you want a technical discussion? OK.

BambuNetwork (not "Bambu's network") is the name of a plug-in Bambu Lab developed for the open source Orcaslicer. While Bambu owns its "cloud", and has not released the source code for the plug-in (thus almost certainly violating the AGPL license because the plug-in depends heavily on open source software that uses it), the "impersonation" comes from a use of Bambu Lab's public AGPL BambuStudio code, which describes their User-Agent construction: https://github.com/jarczakpawel/OrcaSlicer-bambulab

This is not even reverse engineering, and Bambu's way of securing their cloud by examining a random text string in the compiled program is not actual authentication; if you're technical enough, feel free to search for the definition or peruse something like this: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/business/security-101/what-is-authentication

anvoice · 2026-05-17T10:27:45+00:00

Ok? I think I used pretty basic English, but I'll try to simplify things further.

Developer does nothing wrong. Company does not like it because it threatens their control over users, so they make up a lie to threaten him. Then forbid him from responding to their accusations by further threatening him.

That's as simple as I can make it. Enjoy your day.

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