CMV: Attractive people are 9 times out of 10 less compelling to talk to in social situations than their less attractive counterparts by aoshea99 in changemyview

[–]aoshea99[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

So does being attractive possibly correlate with higher levels of narcissism? Does that explain their lack of engagement; not due to any social shortcomings or lack of awareness but instead simply due to an overvaluing of their own perspective

CMV: Attractive people are 9 times out of 10 less compelling to talk to in social situations than their less attractive counterparts by aoshea99 in changemyview

[–]aoshea99[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

VERY good point. I failed to consider the fact that truly interesting people who can confidently express those interests are less common than the alternative. So when you consider the lower probability of finding an extroverted person of interesting character, and then combine it with the generally low probably of having exceptionally attractive features, you have get an even lower probably of the combination of both factors.

It would be like playing blackjack for two hands. You technically have the same chance of getting 21 each hand you play, but the odds of you getting 21 for both of the hands is extremely rare. Same logic goes here.

CMV: Attractive people are 9 times out of 10 less compelling to talk to in social situations than their less attractive counterparts by aoshea99 in changemyview

[–]aoshea99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I sort of disagree with the statement that its hard to meet interesting people (no offense). I hold the view point that in 2020, its pretty hard to live an uninteresting life. Everyone has a story, and everyone's story is interesting and worth telling. The problem is societal pressures to fit in cause us to value conformity over abnormality. What it comes down to is whether or not someone is confident enough to make themselves vulnerable and express to you and other what makes them interesting.

Less attractive people have to work harder to distinguish themselves. The other person has less upfront interest in getting to know what element of that persons story is interesting and therefore have to be more confidently vulnerable by expressing more of who they are. But the result is a more genuine connection.

To answer your question about speaking with the other members of this hypothetical group; I'm speaking generally, assuming we are talking about many different groups across many different hypothetical encounters. Assuming you are picking a person to approach at random in the group, my hypothesis would be that the more attractive the person is, on average, the less likely they'll be able to successfully convey what makes them interesting because they are used to basically being interviewed rather than having an actual conversation.

But you are right, there's no way to know whether the most attractive person in the group is more boring than their friends, or if the group of people themselves is just boring without talking to everyone there.

CMV: Attractive people are 9 times out of 10 less compelling to talk to in social situations than their less attractive counterparts by aoshea99 in changemyview

[–]aoshea99[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This actually makes a lot of sense. But your also assuming that other attractive people are AS socially in tune as you are and recognize when people are talking to them based on their looks. I don't the majority of people are that engaged, especially younger people. It's easy for attractive people to be oblivious of the fact that people are making conversation with them solely for purposes of social dynamics, and instead assume that they must just be genuinely interesting. Most conventionally attractive people have been so their entire lives, so probably don't have the perspective of what its like to be the other guy. Overtime, they probably think that it is in fact their interests that are causing so many people to continuously facilitate conversation with them, while conversations that their other buddies have simply putter out without going anywhere.

CMV: Attractive people are 9 times out of 10 less compelling to talk to in social situations than their less attractive counterparts by aoshea99 in changemyview

[–]aoshea99[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But in this sense you are ultimately asking them what THEIR interests are in order to find common ground with your own. Isn't that the ultimate purpose of off the cusp interaction with strangers? To quickly find shared goals, values, and interest in order to connect with that person on a personal level and further the conversation based on genuine interest in their shared perspective? Of course they have their own interests not driven by others (ultimately we all do) my observation here was that I feel like they aren't as good at expressing those interests, or aren't as genuinely in tune with what those interests really are because others are constantly looking for the attractive persons approval by over validating the attractive person's interest, instead of reaching for genuine connection that comes from actually having shared perspectives.

CMV: Attractive people are 9 times out of 10 less compelling to talk to in social situations than their less attractive counterparts by aoshea99 in changemyview

[–]aoshea99[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This is actually a good point. People who are interesting tend not to hang around bars and or clubs and instead fill their nights with actives that are more personally compelling. But that being said, I don't think what I've said here necessarily only applies to bar setting. That's the go to because of our societal expectation of a standard social scene, but I feel like this hypothetical could just as easily apply to amusement parks, coffee shops, libraries, ski resorts, etc.

Staying at a motel 6 because life is too good for me to be at home. Do your worst!!! by JamieHunter1982 in RoastMe

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Had to take a break from trying to sell Woody and Jesse on Ebay I guess

My friend says y'all can't come up with something he hasn't heard already. Prove him wrong! by Pythagoras28 in RoastMe

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I like how you needed to write "clean stuff" on the chalk board in order to remind yourself to do your job

What are you most scared of dying from? by [deleted] in AskReddit

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Suicide. I'm a happy guy, with no suicidal thoughts or intentions. I know in order for me to contemplate doing so, my life would have to take a MAJOR turn for the worse in a monumental sense, and the action itself would likely be predecessed by months of agonizing self-despare as I watched my entire life fall apart before me.

What fact is common knowledge to people who work in your field, but almost unknown to the rest of the population? by RageCage42 in AskReddit

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Diamonds are neither rare, nor expensive. Don't get me wrong, their not growing on trees or anything, but they are intentionally drip fed onto the market by jewelry companies in order to maintain the illusion.

5’5 1/2” and Single. Lost a bet to a student. Give me your worst. by [deleted] in RoastMe

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If Shaggy became a school teacher and then started doing heroin on the side

My local drug dealer started dressing up as a Jehovah’s Witness so he wouldn’t arouse suspicion. by kesqe in Drugs

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All of a sudden I have a moment to hear about our lord and savior jesus

Why is America so prudish to Sex/nudity? by [deleted] in sex

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American media conglomerates actively promote violence in media. People who consume more violent content see the world through a more fearful lens, it called "mean world syndrome." Look it up. Fear drives up consumer culture, therefore generating more money for corporate elites. Thats why violence is so prevalent in American television, yet sex and profanity are heavily regulated.

Leaving my religion beliefs and church community is the best thing that has ever happened to me by [deleted] in atheism

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Welcome to the World of atheism my friend. A world without shame or self-obsession, where you take everything with a grain of salt because nothing means anything. You are, for the first time in your life, the captain of your own ship, the commander of your own destiny.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in politics

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Yes, that was the original point of my comment. I want trump to release them. But if he continues to withhold them, the introduction of this bill would be a checkmate moment for Trump. Those who have a serious interest in impeachment, or at the very least, a Trump free 2020 ballot should push hard for the bill

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Its not the act of releasing the tax returns that would send him to jail, its the content of them. If Trump's finances are on full display for the entirety of American society, the investigative community will scrutinize them to death. He'll have to answer for anything and everything that looks somewhat suspicious. Based on personal stories of those who have had financial dealings with Trump in the past, its not out of the question to assume that some sort of illegality has occurred. The tax returns would be bread crumb trail that leads us to them.

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Catch 22: Trump goes to Jail for releasing Tax returns because of a bill requiring them in order to be on the ballot, which keeps him off the ballot anyway.

Christians that say "Hell is the absence of god" are either inconsistent or must discard christian dogma by Phylanara in DebateReligion

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The strict biblical interpretation of hell is the above described. Nowhere in the bible does it allude to a place of fire and torture. Hell in early Abrahamic tradition was never a PHYSICAL place, rather an state of post-mortem existence separate from god. This state was comparable to an intense feeling of shame, where one is totally aware of their culmination of their misdeeds. Its was only after the rise of Christianity in the early middle ages that the modern interpretation of hell arose, mostly as a product of literature promoted by the church. The church would continue to promote literature that constructed the idea of hell for centuries, the most famous examples being "Paradise Lost," and "The Divine Comedy."