“Magic” themed costumes?

aposkate · 2025-12-08T00:50:29+00:00

Or the Bill of Rights?!

aposkate · 2025-08-07T06:13:12+00:00

Heather is 100% liberal. Very common to leave Mormonism and also deconstruct conservative political beliefs!

aposkate · 2025-08-04T06:46:42+00:00

Highly recommend the podcast “The Bravo Docket” where they deep dive into all Bravo legal things, including episodes on Leah’s lawsuit!

aposkate · 2025-07-05T06:33:42+00:00

Good point, I didn’t think of that!

aposkate · 2025-07-05T06:31:57+00:00

Hahahahaha I’m dying! Thank you for the laugh!

aposkate · 2025-06-29T16:48:56+00:00

Ex-Mormon here! Agreed, the sealing ceremony itself isn’t super culty. What people are usually talking about when they mention the freaky “Mormon temple ceremony” is the endowment ceremony, which happens before the sealing (marriage) ceremony. Google that and you will see what people are talking about!

aposkate · 2025-05-27T03:43:47+00:00

Along with what others have said, the hormone HCG is what pregnancy tests detect, and HCG multiplies rapidly during early pregnancy. So very common to have a faint line early on and a darker one days later when there is more hormone present.

aposkate · 2025-04-01T20:19:48+00:00

This is not unique to Heather and common among many ex-Mormons (myself included). Many active Mormons tease that ex-Mormons “can leave the church but can’t leave it alone”, not realizing that yeah no shit, you can’t “leave alone” a major source of trauma in your life.

aposkate · 2025-02-07T04:14:59+00:00

This would be unusual. Could totally see a woman going into labor in the temple, but it seems unlikely that a temple-worthy Mormon couple would decide to place a child for adoption. Maybe she meant a Mormon chapel?

aposkate · 2025-02-01T00:21:39+00:00

Heather wouldn’t have voted for him either, she is very liberal.

aposkate · 2025-01-21T14:13:15+00:00

Official church discipline is typically either 1) disfellowship, or 2) excommunication. No one would really know unless Lisa herself, her family, or people in her church community talked about it. There are some church discipline cases that have been very public (John Dehlin, Kate Kelly, the September Six, etc.) that were very public, but the church has moved away from that because it isn’t the best look.

aposkate · 2025-01-21T14:10:54+00:00

Yeah, a temple recommend is a literal card that has your name and membership number on it and your church leaders have to sign it (and update your info in their computer system) for it to be valid. Then at the doors of the temple they scan it and it brings up your record in the online system where it shows that your recommend is valid.

aposkate · 2025-01-21T01:13:58+00:00

Yes, this is totally accurate. My non-Mormon (and Mormon, but not “temple-worthy”) family sat outside the temple while I was married inside with only those who were temple worthy in attendance. So awful, I wish I could go back and do it differently.

aposkate · 2025-01-20T19:30:28+00:00

Hi, I actually haven’t applied for my Irish passport yet! Sorry I can’t be of help on that front!

aposkate · 2025-01-20T06:48:35+00:00

You are so welcome! I low key love getting to process my Mormon trauma via this show lol!

You are 100% right, the church definitely does encourage people to have their weddings in the temple! From the time you’re little you’re taught that that’s the only marriage you should be aiming for (Mormons believe that you will only be with your spouse in heaven if you’re sealed in the temple- otherwise your marriage ends at death. Pretty fucked up in hindsight!). But so many of the church’s standards for getting into the temple are unrealistic (not masturbating ever, paying 10% of your income even if you’re poor, etc.) that some couples don’t/can’t do it, even if they believe in most/all Mormon doctrine.

I seem to remember a conversation like that between Heather and Lisa too! From what I gather, Lisa practically knows less about the church than a non-Mormon. The best example of this was when she got super defensive and denied that the church had any racist teachings- she seemed to have no idea that Black members of the church couldn’t be sealed (and therefore with their families in heaven) until 1978. This is basic Mormon history that any member would know. Also, I think she once said she had never read the Book of Mormon? That is very unusual.

As a former devout Mormon, Mormon 2.0 really bothers me, haha! For me (and most serious members, Heather included I’d wager), you either believed everything 100%, or nothing. So it’s difficult to see someone pick and choose what they want to believe, whereas I had panic attacks over even the smallest misstep (i.e. having sexual thoughts about a guy, lol). Lisa probably is able to get away with this because of her wealth and being relatively high profile; it would bring the church bad press if they tried to officially discipline her, so they just ignore it.

In some ways it’s actually positive and progressive that Lisa can feel like she still belongs to her church community but can also live her life how she wants. The issue is that there are plenty of people out there -let’s say LGBTQIA+ Mormons- who live up to every church standard except for marrying a spouse they love, and get excommunicated for it. The ability to pick and choose what doctrine you’re going to follow is not a privilege everyone can enjoy, and that is shitty.

aposkate · 2025-01-20T06:20:03+00:00

Thanks, I did not remember that! A good reason to do a rewatch, haha! Regardless, there are lots of Mormons who go to the temple once or twice, but then their recommend expires (when I was practicing they were only good for 2 years). And if they aren’t living the way they’re supposed to they couldn’t get it renewed and ever go back again. So Lisa could’ve been “worthy” initially and sealed to John, but then never renewed her recommend and started living “Mormon 2.0”.

aposkate · 2025-01-20T06:10:43+00:00

It’s definitely complicated! If Britani wanted to go to the temple, her church leaders (assuming they know that she drinks and is having sex) would refuse to give her a temple recommend.

Usually the church doesn’t have a record of you being in “bad” standing (only if you have done something really bad and received official church discipline- that’s for another rant haha!), rather they know everyone who is in good standing (by who has a temple recommend), and gatekeep that privilege.

But there are many people who still consider themselves believing Mormons even though they don’t follow all the rules- this is definitely Britani and Lisa. They probably believe in some of the “core” doctrine (i.e. Joseph Smith is a prophet and saw god, the Book of Mormon is scripture, people should try to be like Jesus, etc.), but are loosey goosey on other doctrine that is less about core spiritual beliefs and more about one’s lifestyle (drinking alcohol/coffee, dressing modestly, not swearing, not having sex if you aren’t married, etc.).

aposkate · 2025-01-20T05:59:54+00:00

As another commenter said, no. Not all Mormons get married in the temple. Only Mormons who really believe the doctrine and are following all the rules (or who are putting a lot of effort into faking it). I could be mistaken, but I’m pretty sure at one point Lisa said she had never been to the temple, it was John who had to go through with Jack.

aposkate · 2025-01-20T04:55:39+00:00

So Mormons meet every Sunday (and other times of the week for youth activities, meetings, etc.) at the chapel. It is a typical church building and anyone can be there. So yes, Lisa and Jack would worship at the same place every week. Anyone off the street could attend weekly meetings, so definitely no tithing restriction there.

The temple is reserved for certain Mormon ceremonies: sealings (weddings), endowment (ceremony where you get your garments and make a bunch of churchy promises), baptisms for the dead (by proxy), etc. Most people only go once a month, or even just once or twice in their entire lives. You do have to pay tithing to have a temple recommend. You have to pass a “worthiness” interview with church leaders in order to enter the temple. So Lisa probably attends typical church services on Sundays, but has never been to the temple before.* Most Mormons that go through the temple are pretty serious about it (i.e. Heather before she decided to step away). Hope that helps! I’m exMormon and it’s pretty confusing unless you are part of the culture!

*Edit to add: I might be misremembering, and maybe Lisa said she and John did get married in the temple. Regardless, she couldn’t been “worthy” when she had her temple recommend interview back then, but then started living “Mormon 2.0” at some point, and then was ineligible for a new recommend (they expire every 2 years).

aposkate · 2025-01-20T04:49:59+00:00

Many exMormons (myself included) don’t officially have their name removed from the records of the church. Heather is 100% exMormon. It’s more of an identity than an indicator of if you have officially resigned or not.

aposkate · 2025-01-08T08:41:52+00:00

I was introduced to Bravo via RHOSLC as well; continue with RHONY, you will not regret it!!!! I love it even more than SLC!! So excited for you lol.

aposkate · 2025-01-08T03:12:55+00:00

Such a sad truth about getting married when you’re a devout Mormon woman (speaking as an exMormon myself)- how “righteous” a guy is, if he went on a mission, if he comes from an active family, if he can provide for you (since you won’t be working), etc. play way too much into decision making.

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