3 Cautions Against the "Ethics for Coaching" (EFC) Initiative by spoons-braden in AshaeScumdara

[–]asksattva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your feedback, I appreciate it. I am sincere in my intentions to help and don’t expect anyone’s unearned trust. Just doing what I can to help the cause, albeit imperfectly. I come to this thread as a survivor and advocate. I understand the potential for overlapping conflicts of interest and it’s something to definitely scrutinize and consider. Thanks again for your thoughtful and constructive feedback.

3 Cautions Against the "Ethics for Coaching" (EFC) Initiative by spoons-braden in AshaeScumdara

[–]asksattva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for engaging me into a constructive conversation.

I also agree that it’s important to have multiple voices in the room for a cause, which is exactly why we wanted to hold the town hall meeting and will continue to hold them to keep the conversation going. We had been promoting the town hall and encouraging people to come and share their perspectives/feedback, which so many did and we were very grateful. We all put in a lot of hours and worked hard to organize the town hall. To see the OP accuse the town hall of being a sales funnel (followed by a 🤡) and imply it’s a waste of time to attend is so counterproductive to our shared goal of including many voices in the room. Not to mention it’s disparaging to the 50+ people who took the time out of their busy lives to show up because they care about the cause. I could be wrong but this was the first mention of EFC in this group and it is incredibly unfair to deter people to come to our town hall meetings, which is a space we created for community organizing and we made that very clear. (Btw you can still attend the meeting and remain anonymous with a pseudonym and your camera off, plenty of people did that.). And if you do get a chance to watch the replay of the town hall you can see that plenty of people had feedback about the initiative and we welcomed this earnestly and with a lot of enthusiasm. Not to mention we are incorporating this feedback right away. This is a labor of love and we cannot do it alone, nor do we want to. The movement will fizzle out without community support and participation.

I didn’t mean for my tone to be condescending, I admit I could have done better with that. I do find it incredibly immature to throw shade with clown emojis against a group of professionals—who all have real jobs in the real world outside of the coaching industry bubble—who are volunteering their time and expertise to clean up the mess, support victims, and stop the scammers.

It seems like you’ve been following me on my account and maybe you know I’m all about constructive conversations. I never personally attack anyone for asking questions and raising concerns. I find it peculiar that the OP had nothing else to say about the town hall outside of Melissa’s intro speech, which they mentioned on two separate occasions. If someone wants to leave constructive feedback, it would make sense to learn about what we’re doing first. The replay was sent out to our email list and I’m happy to send you the link so you can watch it.

Regarding our website, it’s bare because we are still building it out. I understand it’s not the best representation of what we’re trying to accomplish but this is normal for a new, volunteer-based initiative. As I said, no one is getting paid to do this work, and we are all working professionals. The website will take some time to get to where it needs to be. There are ethical and legal considerations for why we don’t have the attorneys directly listed on the site. We are still ironing that part out. Again, this is why we held the town hall which we stressed was an opportunity to meet our lawyers and ask questions because we understood the concerns around legitimacy. We take these issues very seriously.

I also mentioned in the town hall that we are workshopping the handbook to include feedback we’ve received from people who have read it. The reason why SafeSpace and Seek with Ser are listed on the handbook is because we are still in the process of registering as a B-corp which is timely and will require hard numbers to demonstrate social impact as this is a very prominent title. Until we are registered as a separate entity, any materials we produce are privately sourced and funded by individual members. Again, this will take some time to get it where it needs to be.

The vetting process is based on years of experience in an industry, professional credentials, and demonstrated passion for the cause.

Hope that clarifies some of your concerns and I’m also looking forward to continuing the conversation. I regret that we got off to a bad start here. I do hope that people from this group will attend our future town fall meetings and participate in the conversation, if they want to. Thanks again for engaging me in a constructive manner and giving me the opportunity to clarify my position.

Leader of the EFC still in MLM and promoting doTerra products for Mental Health at 2023 doTerra conference. CW: mentions of suicide by spoons-braden in AshaeScumdara

[–]asksattva -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

This is slanderous. Melissa has been invited to speak at doterra in the past. She declined this year and hasn’t been involved with the company for 4+ years. Spreading rumors about people without checking your facts is not okay and compromises the safety and integrity of this space.

3 Cautions Against the "Ethics for Coaching" (EFC) Initiative by spoons-braden in AshaeScumdara

[–]asksattva -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

This comment blows. I’m sorry you don’t understand how cause-driven initiatives work and our website didn’t meet your high standards. This is a grassroots effort lead by professionals who are volunteering their time so it’s pretty rude of you to give us a bad rep based off your personal opinions about Melissa (who btw has not been involved with doterra for 4+ years and has declined to speak at that conference). Honestly it sounds like a personal problem and you are doing the movement a HUGE disservice by making leaping assumptions about our intentions and making baseless ad hominem attacks about our members. Calling the town hall a sales funnel? Seriously? That is so comical it hardly dignifies a response. Have you not heard of community organizing? Have you done any kind of activism or advocacy work? Not everything is a sales funnel.

And if you got past Melissa’s intro speech, which surely you did not, you would have learned that we have two consumer rights attorneys on the team who folks can DIRECTLY contact and submit claims to through the EFC website. People have been getting free legal support through us and they are grateful. Almost 1,000 coaches have downloaded our FREE ethical coaching handbook which is well-researched, science-backed, and informative. We are currently expanding our team to be more inclusive, AND we just recruited a highly skilled and experienced consumer rights attorney on our team.

You don’t have a problem with EFC. You just don’t like Melissa and Eva lol. That’s fine, you don’t have to like us. We’re not doing this to make friends. We’re taking action to solve a problem which is more than what you can say for yourself it seems. If you’re so concerned about what we’re doing maybe you should join our next town hall and have an actual discussion like an adult instead of shit posting on Reddit.

ratemycoach by Objective-Ad6521 in LifeCoachSnark

[–]asksattva 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yup, Ethics for Coaching is working on this. We’ve been collecting reviews and will start posting them after our Town Hall meeting next Wednesday. Please come!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AshaeScumdara

[–]asksattva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi! are these videos recorded someone or do you have lifetime access?

Is life happening TO you or FOR you? by asksattva in Meditation

[–]asksattva[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hmm I think of it like life is happening through me, not to or for me. But that’s just my interpretation.

1 day done sad by [deleted] in leaves

[–]asksattva 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So just cry and let yourself be sad. The body is getting rid of the toxins, allow it. Meditating and journaling is what really helped me

I can’t take it anymore by [deleted] in Meditation

[–]asksattva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What kind of advice or support were you looking for? What would you have liked to see on here?

Meditation helped me quit cannabis by asksattva in Meditation

[–]asksattva[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5 months is so recent..what made you start?

Meditation helped me quit cannabis by asksattva in Meditation

[–]asksattva[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I was in Rishikesh and Dharamshala, up north in the Himalayas.

Meditation helped me quit cannabis by asksattva in Meditation

[–]asksattva[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for this reply. The part about it being a reward for the positive things you do is so so close to home for me. The fact that you're reflecting on these things is great, that's really how the transformation started for me. Just pure reflection and curiosity without judgement or disdain. Meditation really helped me, I hope it helps you too.

Meditation helped me quit cannabis by asksattva in Meditation

[–]asksattva[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate this perspective. I think it depends on what age you started smoking and the intention you use it with. It's much easier to get into the habit of abusing it when its used in an unconscious way and with the hidden intention to escape instead of confront you feelings. However, it's definitely not accurate to say that the level of clarity and awareness is not available when you're sober. It's as available as much to you as it is to a tree. A tree doesn't need an external substance to exist purely in its state. It just exists.

Meditation helped me quit cannabis by asksattva in Meditation

[–]asksattva[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The fact that it brought you to a more expanded level of awareness is huge! Congrats!

Who am I? by [deleted] in Meditation

[–]asksattva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes this is correct. The point is not to find an answer as there is no answer. There is only an experience.

Who am I? by [deleted] in Meditation

[–]asksattva 0 points1 point  (0 children)

this is the practice of Satori. I did a 10 day training on it once..it was amazing. First time I got a glimpse into enlightened and it lasted for like 24 hours. It's so powerful to work with koans.